Let the ruling classes tremble – an Interactive Revolutionary AAR

[Lenin Cat]

Noone commented on my short statement.

 

[Tommy4ever]

Polls are now closed.

ps Sorry, I didn't notice your little statement Lenin Cat. But as the pet of the Republic's new leading light you have the enternal adoration of the Socialist people.

I'll come back in a bit with the results.

 

[Raph]

Noone commented on my short statement.

Well, I have to comment this.

 

[Tommy4ever]

Results

Party Vote

Total - 56- this is a very solid turnout.

Number of Votes:

Marxist-Leninists: 27
Anarchists: 15
Militarists: 8
United Front: 3
Moderates: 3

Percentages

Marxist-Leninists: 48.214
Anarchists: 26.786
Militarists: 14.286
United Front: 5.357
Moderates: 5.357

Seats:

Marxist-Leninists: 24
Anarchists: 13
Militarists: 7
United Front: 3
Moderates: 3

Workers' Vote

Percentages:

Marxist-Leninists: 26.66
Anarchists: 24.43
Militarists: 20.25
United Front: 16.67
Moderates: 11.99

Seats:

Marxist- Leninists: 13
Anarchists: 12
Militarists: 10
United Front: 9
Moderates: 6

Final - the only thing that really matters

Seats:

Marxist-Leninists: 37
Anarchists: 25
Militarists: 17
United Front: 12
Moderates: 9

Unable to form an alliance with the Moderates faction (as this would not allow them to pass the 50 seat mark) the Marxist-Leninists turn towards the Militarists to give them the support they need to assume power.

Lenin is the new Chairman of the VSVR, he is supported by a Marxist-Leninist - Militarist Coalition.

The ruling alliance holds 54 of 100 seats in the Constituent Assembly.

 

[naggy]

It's Glenn Beck's nightmare! "Communists! Fascists!"

 

[Raph]

Well, I would've preferred a coalition with the moderates or the UF, but with three times more seats in the assembly, the Marxist-Leninist faction ought to be able to keep the worst excesses of the militarists in check.

I'm wondering though, withing the new assembly system, will coalitions be permanent or will it be possible for factions to vote differently on different issues? If so, the M-L's could form temporary coalitions with whoever they want, depending on the issue at hand.

 

[J. Passepartout]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Not a coalition with the fascists!!!!!!

 

[Raph]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Not a coalition with the fascists!!!!!!

The militarists aren't a fascist faction here though, AFAIK; they're just pro-military. I'd still prefer them to be watched carefully though, since their background is hardly revolutionary.

 

[Communard]

Bah! A grand coalition with the UF and the Moderates would have been very possible. I had hoped to give Lenin the benefit of the doubt, [[as in RL I often thought he was forced into a lot of his more questionable actions by his circumstances]] but if he is willing to deal with fascist scum then he has no business calling himself a socialist. Lenin has just lost me as a Marxist voter until such a time as he is no longer the leader of the faction.

 

[Derdiedas]

The militarists aren't a fascist faction here though, AFAIK; they're just pro-military. I'd still prefer them to be watched carefully though, since their background is hardly revolutionary.

This. IMHO the militarist are now just a jingoistic poupulists.

 

[Communard]

This. IMHO the militarist are now just a jingoistic poupulists.

Populists? Who believe in revoking the right of the workers to speak and print their minds? Populists , who call for returning power to the entrenched elites, the officers? And that's just what they're willing to put in their platform! They are actually proud of this! Not broadcast in their platform , but hidden away in their charter [[i.e. the in-game list of policies]] is the fact that they believe only in "residency" for non ethnic Germans! Residency! A complete lack of legal equality for something so petty as ethnicity. In the first socialist republic on Earth! It is enough to make you weep. This is a dangerous path to tread. I fear they aim to divide the workers once more. Mark my words, comrade, these "Militarists" are the worst sort of authoritarian corporatists. They may dress their words in socialist language, but at its heart it is the worst reactionism. It will never be an ideology of the people.

 

[LordTempest]

It will never be an ideology of the people.

They got 20% of the workers vote, more than the Moderates or the UF.

 

[Communard]

They got 20% of the workers vote, more than the Moderates or the UF.

Workers vote for Conservative governments in the bourgouis republics that extend full suffrage, does that make capitalism an ideology of the people?

 

[LordTempest]

Workers vote for Conservative governments in the bourgouis republics that extend full suffrage, does that make capitalism an ideology of the people?

Those people, yes.

 

[Raph]

Bah! A grand coalition with the UF and the Moderates would have been very possible. I had hoped to give Lenin the benefit of the doubt, [[as in RL I often thought he was forced into a lot of his more questionable actions by his circumstances]] but if he is willing to deal with fascist scum then he has no business calling himself a socialist. Lenin has just lost me as a Marxist voter until such a time as he is no longer the leader of the faction.

I say, give the benefit of the doubt until we see what this term brings. And if anything, you should campaign for less people to vote for the militarists; after all, they're the third largest faction in the assembly. That's hardly Lenins or the Marxists' fault.

 

[Tommy4ever]

Negative reaction for the coalition.

As some people have noted the Militarists are by no means fascists but are leftwing populists. Quite close, sadly, to how a lot of RL Socialist Republics turn out.

I'm suprised you guys every really expected anything different. The Militarisits are a lot closer to Lenin's ideology than the Moderates whilst he would never join with the United Front (a force containing both a major rival in Engels and a lot of Anarchists). An alliance with the Militarists gives Lenin the loyalty of the military (something very important in his foriegn and internal policy) and so long as he makes a few concessions to the Militarist platform these guys are probably going to ride wherever Lenin takes them.

The Moderates on the other hand are mostly stuff intellectuals, less willing to compromise, and with some major ideological and more issues with Lenin. Working with them would be hell for someone as energetic as Lenin. On top of this they would bring little real power or mass support. But most important of all even with their support Lenin would be unable to nudge himself over the magic 50 seat mark.

So in reality, no matter what you might think, Lenin has no reason nor desire to align with the Moderates when those accomodating Militarists are only too happy to join with him.

 

[naggy]

Our officers are hardly 'entrenched elites'. By that logic, our own brother bureaucrats are also entenched elites.

The press was one of the catalysts for the Blanquist uprising and near Anarchist uprising. Certain parties and groups in the nation have simply shown themselves too irresponsible when given free press.

(Of course, the irony of Lenin forming a coalition with a party that wouldn't let him vote is hilarious.)

 

[Tommy4ever]

Our officers are hardly 'entrenched elites'. By that logic, our own brother bureaucrats are also entenched elites.

The press was one of the catalysts for the Blanquist uprising and near Anarchist uprising. Certain parties and groups in the nation have simply shown themselves too irresponsible when given free press.

(Of course, the irony of Lenin forming a coalition with a party that wouldn't let him vote is hilarious.)

Take the Residence policy as one meaning that the Militarists are very Germano-centric and will promote the German people above other ethnic groups rather than them denying all non-Germans the vote. They see themselves as serving Germany more than they see themselves as serving the international revolution.

EDIT:

ps I seem to have annoyed the etherial Zimmerwald who sent me those two articles.

Lets just say he isn't a fan on the coalition. Sorta' like a Liberal-Democrat supporter.

 

[LordTempest]

Take the Residence policy as one meaning that the Militarists are very Germano-centric and will promote the German people above other ethnic groups rather than them denying all non-Germans the vote. They see themselves as serving Germany more than they see themselves as serving the international revolution.

Maybe they should be called Nationalists rather than Militarists then? Just an idea.

 

[oberstbrooksy]

Bloody commies everywhere