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    Damn, in this timeline they killed Zorro again!
    Ah, but Zorro never truly dies! Viva la Revolution!

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    Indeed. But up with the many different pieces of software I need to use to cobble this together!

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    Great!!!! I'm suscribing! What are the plan of Louisiana concerning their brothers in Québec?
    Glad to hear it! I'd love to be able to march in victory through the streets of Québec or Montréal, but, given the UK's dominance, that would take a lot of luck, I think.

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    Does the USA have cores on you?
    Initially I left the USA with one or two cores along the border, but in every test game that led to an immediate DOW. So I ended up removing all US cores on my territory. I think I also changed 'Manifest Destiny' to make it contingent on their having a border with Mexico. When you see the new map of North America, geopolitical power will be much more balanced in this time line.

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    Joseph, Joseph. Come on. Play nice, maybe the Mexicans will like you.
    The elder Napoleon doesn't quite seem to have grasped the ability to win friends and influence people, does he? I bet he wishes he'd stayed in Naples now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy4ever View Post
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    This is a very unique and interesting AAR. I wonder who will win the Napoleonic War. Perhaps a Coalition victory will lead to France being forced to grant independence ot Louisiana.
    Thanks! It always seemed like an intriguing possibility to me: what if the Haitian rebellion had failed, and so the US hadn't bought Louisiana from France? A whole host of opportunities presented themselves to me! You'll soon discover what the consequences are in this time line. I won't spoil it for you, but you're on the right track.

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    Damn, they kicked Napoleon out.
    Now who would've predicted that...

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    Oooh, I think I know where you're going with this!

    Boney packs his bags and his trusty personal guard and either exiles himself or is exiled to Louisiana, where his trusted lapdog Rochambeau (the butcher of Haiti! ) declares independence from France. Meanwhile, the French are in no position to reassert themselves in America and the British are similarly unable to commit themselves to further prolongued warfare in Louisiana due to the defeats from the US, and we get either a Republic or a New World Empire under the loving and protective heel of the Bonapartes.

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    Is Louisiana French speaking? Also, can we get a map?

    I vaguely know how large the Louisian Territory is but would appreciate seeing how large your state is and where it is in relation to British Canada, the US and Mexico.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy4ever View Post
    Is Louisiana French speaking? Also, can we get a map?

    I vaguely know how large the Louisian Territory is but would appreciate seeing how large your state is and where it is in relation to British Canada, the US and Mexico.
    Indeed. I think the situation with Texas would also be markedly different in this timeline, with the settlers probably being French rather than American, and Louisiana intervening on their behalf. Man, that'd give the forum's Texans an aneurysm! Rappelez-vous l'Alamo!

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    Upon reading your article, and the British objections to the island of Elba, I immediately thought 'wouldn't the New World be sufficiently away from Europe to placate British concerns'? I'm sure the people of Louisiana would be thrilled to accommodate their emperor in his peaceful retirement.

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    Dear Sir:

    This is a fantastic AAR, extremely innovative in concept and beautifully rendered. Though I must take umbrage with the Letter to the Editor who referred to the Hon. Gov. Rochembeau as a "butcher." I have it on good athority that the Governer has never once set foot in an abattoir.

    Moreover, as the hon. gentleman referred to the 'Haiti' 'incident,' he should be reminded that the slaves in question were clearly Enemies of the Revolution and of our beloved Emperor, making Rochembeau a Hero and Patriot. Had they risen up against British Despots, they would have been Freedom Fighters and our Brothers In Arms and this theoretical John Bull Rochembeau would, indeed, be a butcher. Really, it is the slaves own fault for getting themselves abducted and sold to the wrong island.

    I shall look forward to reading more.

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    Dear Sir;

    I would like to make a proposal that all letters sent in the post(s) to The Star are formatted in the following way, for ease of communication and publishing as well as formal good taste:

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    Does the editor of this fine publication approve?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morsky View Post
    Boney packs his bags and his trusty personal guard and either exiles himself or is exiled to Louisiana, where his trusted lapdog Rochambeau (the butcher of Haiti! ) declares independence from France. Meanwhile, the French are in no position to reassert themselves in America and the British are similarly unable to commit themselves to further prolongued warfare in Louisiana due to the defeats from the US, and we get either a Republic or a New World Empire under the loving and protective heel of the Bonapartes.
    Well, it was supposed to happen in RL. Just that it was in Texas. But it doesn't matter where it is, a Bonaparte empire in America is just deliciously cool. And evil.

    If it really is going to happen like that, mad expansion would surely follow. If we get a republic however, we might get a small future USA, poking their noses in other peoples bussiness. Either way, will be fun to watch how the situation evolves.
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    Dear Sir,

    It is most distressing to hear of the Deposition of our beloved Emperor and Guardian of the Ideals of Revolution. The Citizens of New Orleans, I should Hope, are ready to welcome him wtih open Arms if he chooses to avail himself of our Hospitality. As the recent Events have shown, Louisiana remains a firm Stronghold against the Tyrants of Albion and would gladly shelter the Bonapartes from British Persecution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phalanxia View Post
    Dear Sir;

    I would like to make a proposal that all letters sent in the post(s) to The Star are formatted in the following way, for ease of communication and publishing as well as formal good taste:

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    Lorem Ipsum, et cetera

    Yours,

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    Does the editor of this fine publication approve?

    Yours,

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    Indeed - I find that format most agreeable, Sir. It is only to be encouraged. Of course, the editorial team will continue to reformat any wayward correspondence that does not conform to these norms.

    Quote Originally Posted by Enewald View Post
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    Damn, they kicked Napoleon out.
    Now who would've predicted that...

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    The defeat of France and exile of the Emperor would have been unthinkable several years ago. However, with the forces of Europe arranged against him, His Imperial Majesty has been under considerable pressure for some time. At least the Coalition forces have shown mercy in allowing him to retain the titles and status due him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy4ever View Post
    Dear Sir:

    Is Louisiana French speaking? Also, can we get a map?

    I vaguely know how large the Louisian Territory is but would appreciate seeing how large your state is and where it is in relation to British Canada, the US and Mexico.

    Yours,

    Tommy4ever
    Louisiana, at this point, is predominantly Francophone. The period of Spanish rule did little to change the culture of the province, and without the US meddling, French should retain the upper hand. In game terms, I've given them both French and French-Canadian as accepted cultures. I'll try and work a map into the next update. Basically, Louisiana will begin with all the U.S. territory West of the Mississippi in the 1836 scenario (minus the single province in Idaho)

    Quote Originally Posted by Alfred Packer View Post
    Dear Sir:

    This is a fantastic AAR, extremely innovative in concept and beautifully rendered. Though I must take umbrage with the Letter to the Editor who referred to the Hon. Gov. Rochembeau as a "butcher." I have it on good authority that the Governor has never once set foot in an abattoir.

    Moreover, as the hon. gentleman referred to the 'Haiti' 'incident,' he should be reminded that the slaves in question were clearly Enemies of the Revolution and of our beloved Emperor, making Rochembeau a Hero and Patriot. Had they risen up against British Despots, they would have been Freedom Fighters and our Brothers In Arms and this theoretical John Bull Rochembeau would, indeed, be a butcher. Really, it is the slaves own fault for getting themselves abducted and sold to the wrong island.

    I shall look forward to reading more.

    Yours,

    Rt. Hon. Alfred Packer, Esq.
    The editor is pleased to receive your positive comments regarding the newspaper. Most of your compatriots share your views on the esteemed Governor Rochembeau, and his predecessor LeClerc - both heroes of the suppression of Saint Domingue. Unfortunately, discontent among the slaves and gens de coleur on the island is high, so their subjugation is far from assured.

    Dear Sir:

    Minor note: the electric and magnetic forces were unified at around 1860, so I'm not sure if the term 'electromagnetic' would have been used before that.

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    The quote I used is taken directly from OTL (an anonymous American), and is supposed to be contemporaneous - at least according to my source at the University of Wikipedia. I have to say that I share your concerns, however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morsky View Post
    Dear Sir:

    Oooh, I think I know where you're going with this!

    Boney packs his bags and his trusty personal guard and either exiles himself or is exiled to Louisiana, where his trusted lapdog Rochambeau (the butcher of Haiti! ) declares independence from France. Meanwhile, the French are in no position to reassert themselves in America and the British are similarly unable to commit themselves to further prolongued warfare in Louisiana due to the defeats from the US, and we get either a Republic or a New World Empire under the loving and protective heel of the Bonapartes.

    Indeed. I think the situation with Texas would also be markedly different in this timeline, with the settlers probably being French rather than American, and Louisiana intervening on their behalf. Man, that'd give the forum's Texans an aneurysm! Rappelez-vous l'Alamo!

    Yours,

    Morsky
    Quote Originally Posted by Selzro View Post
    Dear Sir:

    Upon reading your article, and the British objections to the island of Elba, I immediately thought 'wouldn't the New World be sufficiently away from Europe to placate British concerns'? I'm sure the people of Louisiana would be thrilled to accommodate their emperor in his peaceful retirement.

    Yours,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vesimir View Post
    Dear Sir:

    Well, it was supposed to happen in RL. Just that it was in Texas. But it doesn't matter where it is, a Bonaparte empire in America is just deliciously cool. And evil.

    If it really is going to happen like that, mad expansion would surely follow. If we get a republic however, we might get a small future USA, poking their noses in other peoples bussiness. Either way, will be fun to watch how the situation evolves.

    Yours,

    Vesimir
    Quote Originally Posted by RGB View Post
    Dear Sir,

    It is most distressing to hear of the Deposition of our beloved Emperor and Guardian of the Ideals of Revolution. The Citizens of New Orleans, I should Hope, are ready to welcome him wtih open Arms if he chooses to avail himself of our Hospitality. As the recent Events have shown, Louisiana remains a firm Stronghold against the Tyrants of Albion and would gladly shelter the Bonapartes from British Persecution.

    Yours,

    Mssr. Rene-Gilbert de Baie
    It looks like the jig is up - you've guessed the main thrust of the rather-large-butterfly which disrupts this timeline! I decided that it was more likely that the Coalition would send Napoleon to Louisiana, rather than him traveling there himself. The British concern about Elba was genuine in OTL, but Napoleon escaped before they could do anything about it - and then it was off to St Helena. But what if the Hundred Days and Waterloo never happened? If Napoleon could be Emperor of Elba, why not Emperor of an empty buffer state like Louisiana? Once I load the game, and give you the facts on the ground, it's going to feel like a rather long way from France for me, as well! A sparsely-populated wilderness where Napoleon can do no harm except to the US or Mexico. And they weren't invited to the conference!

    I had toyed with the idea of an independent Republic, but, in the words of Vesimir, it's just too deliciously cool, and evil to have the Bonapartes in America! But before anyone begins imagining the Imperial Guard marching down the National Mall in Washington - Louisiana definitely begins as the poorest of the North American powers. In addition, the Great Powers are unlikely to let their nemesis rearm so easily!

    Whether the Louisianans themselves are so pleased with the turn of events is less clear - the New World French were generally conservative (Catholics, Monarchists) so that's a plus. But presumably the American and British garrisons are less welcome!

    I'm still pondering the Texas situation. I like the absurdity of a French-speaking Texas. I've only been playing test games so far, so maybe I'll incorporate some of those ideas before I begin.
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    Ohhh I like the idea. Especially since if Napoleon would go in America, he would be followed by thousands of exiles: the best soldiers, the best scientist of France, many intellectual in France, Poland, Germany (Goethe). How could you dream a better start for the new French Empire of America?

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    And if I might add, it was the dream of the Empereur to go to America after the 100 jours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by General_Hoth View Post
    Ohhh I like the idea. Especially since if Napoleon would go in America, he would be followed by thousands of exiles: the best soldiers, the best scientist of France, many intellectual in France, Poland, Germany (Goethe). How could you dream a better start for the new French Empire of America?

    And for Quebec, just bid your time..and support the 1837-1838 rebellion!!!

    And if I might add, it was the dream of the Empereur to go to America after the 100 jours.
    Thanks for the support - and I didn't know about Napoleon's American ambitions - very interesting! And I think you're right about the emigrees following Napoleon (although America was a long journey to make) - especially once the European monarchies went back to their reactionary ways - especially in France, Spain and Naples.
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    Emperor of Louisiana?

    I do hope that Louisiana doesn't simply become the personal domain of the Bonaparte dynasty.

    How does the coalition expect the new Emperor to hold on to his vast realm with 400 men?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy4ever View Post
    Emperor of Louisiana?

    I do hope that Louisiana doesn't simply become the personal domain of the Bonaparte dynasty.

    How does the coalition expect the new Emperor to hold on to his vast realm with 400 men?
    By the treaty of Fontainebleau Napoleon was Emperor of Elba, so Emperor of Louisiana seemed appropriate. Besides, he's about to have a counterpart in the Emperor of Mexico in the 1820s!

    I expect the Coalition's reasoning the same which led them to believe that giving Belgium to the Dutch would work out, and that humiliating France and reinstating the hated Bourbons would prevent the rise of republicanism! The British and American garrisons will help - as long, of course, as they don't end up at each other's throats the whole time!
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    Follow the descendants of Edgar Atheling as they seek to regain their throne.

    Winner of the WritAAR of the week award, 30/11/2009 | 05/07/2010 ~ Character Writer of the Week 09/05/2010 ~ Favourite CK History Book Q1 2010 | Q2 2010 | Q3 2010

    Rebellion! Treachery! War! Marriage! And You! It's all in the Imperium AARlandium Sacrum, a CK succession game with a twist! Read it here.
    Favourite CK Gameplay Q2 2010

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