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@winsingtonIII

I agree some of the posts are misleading. I don't know if I speak for anyone else, but my vote for the Anarchists is largely due to their strong stance against the Marxists. Many policies floated by the early Anarchists, German socialists and the now gone Unionists have been left to the way side or stamped out by an increasing wave of Marxism. As the only party willing to fight these tactics of force in kind, I support the Anarchists. Perhaps they will be no better, but the Young Anarchists are not the AKVD, at least not yet. The AKVD will not go quietly in light of its previous actions; sanction from the government and the people will help ease its dismantlement which I fear will be inevitably bloody. What is more the AKVD do not seem to have any policies beyond expansion and consolidation of power. The Young Anarchists have demands that can be met to incorporate their more moderate elements (as much as they have moderate elements).
 
Tanzhang (譚張) said:
Just a question Necazian, as Minorities Secretary do you have any shaping of party policy beyond what the rest of us have?
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He doesn't really. Although I listen to you all I'd probably listen to him a but more if he says something about Minorities. But at the end of the day I can and will do whatever the hell I like.

ps I support the proposal that people stop making important stuff up. You can say its your personal opinion that farmers deserve the vote too but don't say its the opinion of the Anarchists.

The latest polls!

48 votes. This is two bellow my 50 vote target and 4 bellow our last total. It seems that voting recovered from a slow start and we only need a couple of votes to take us over the 50 vote target. :)

UC: 17

Anarchists: 13

Marxists: 9

Socialists: 9

This may look like a straight forward UC victory but I assure you with Workers' Vote added into the mix things are much tighter.
 
Tommy4ever said:
He doesn't really. Although I listen to you all I'd probably listen to him a but more if he says something about Minorities.
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Minorities, eh?

I still believe that a people's vote should be done when it comes to newly acquired nations/ethnicities (By this I mean we do not release countries like Saxony as they are a part of the German group, but nations like Poland, France or the Netherlands). If this does into "law" then it does not apply to the previous ones like Flanders and Wallonia as they have already been decided on (by the state itself), but only the ones acquired after the "law" is in place.
 
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I believe the Flanders and Wallonian questions should be revisited in light of the increased participation of the populace that has been introduced since those decisions were made. If the Walloons and Flemish want to run their own affairs who denies this to them?
 
thekonkoe said:
@winsingtonIII

I agree some of the posts are misleading. I don't know if I speak for anyone else, but my vote for the Anarchists is largely due to their strong stance against the Marxists. Many policies floated by the early Anarchists, German socialists and the now gone Unionists have been left to the way side or stamped out by an increasing wave of Marxism. As the only party willing to fight these tactics of force in kind, I support the Anarchists. Perhaps they will be no better, but the Young Anarchists are not the AKVD, at least not yet. The AKVD will not go quietly in light of its previous actions; sanction from the government and the people will help ease its dismantlement which I fear will be inevitably bloody. What is more the AKVD do not seem to have any policies beyond expansion and consolidation of power. The Young Anarchists have demands that can be met to incorporate their more moderate elements (as much as they have moderate elements).
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Well, I certainly wasn't accusing every Anarchist of being misleading or being mislead, but there is some misleading rhetoric being tossed around.
 
I think my post was misleading then. That wasn't what I was trying to say.

I was trying to offer an explanation as to why it might be happening. The Anarchists in addition to their expected members also seem to be drawing those that are opposed to Marxists and Marxist policies that have been implemented. At risk of oversimplification the Anarchists wish to see the people empowered now, while the Marxists wish to prepare the people for Communism through strong leadership. At least that is how this election is being framed. The Anarchists still have a particular vision of how the empowerment will occur. But for many supporters thats not the issue. Does that make sense?

Alternatively, these are cleverly phrased smear campaigns to give the Marxists an image of denying the farmer his rights when in fact the Anarchists have just as much to say on the issue (namely nothing).
 
Finally caught up and wish I'd been here since the beginning. The anarchists don't get it, the Marxists are lead by an egomaniac, the Socialists are a dying nationalist party, and the UC will just prolong the inevitable Anachist-Marxist fight. Where is my third way? Where is my Worker's International? I think everyone has lost sight of the big picture, and no matter what we need a shake-up of the establishment. My vote is for the German Socialists with the hope that the Marxists can rid themselves of Blanqui and return to the forefront as the only party that understands the revolution.
 
marnues said:
Finally caught up and wish I'd been here since the beginning. The anarchists don't get it, the Marxists are lead by an egomaniac, the Socialists are a dying nationalist party, and the UC will just prolong the inevitable Anachist-Marxist fight. Where is my third way? Where is my Worker's International? I think everyone has lost sight of the big picture, and no matter what we need a shake-up of the establishment. My vote is for the German Socialists with the hope that the Marxists can rid themselves of Blanqui and return to the forefront as the only party that understands the revolution.
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But the German Socialists don't even want to do anything about the Free Press, so in reality, the socialists are the ones that will prolong the Anarchist-Marxist fight, at least that is what I analyze out of the situation. Why do you believe that electing the UC will only prolong it?

EDIT: Oh, and great job reading through it all, I'd probably be a bit too lazy to do that. :p
 
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thekonkoe said:
I think my post was misleading then. That wasn't what I was trying to say.

I was trying to offer an explanation as to why it might be happening. The Anarchists in addition to their expected members also seem to be drawing those that are opposed to Marxists and Marxist policies that have been implemented. At risk of oversimplification the Anarchists wish to see the people empowered now, while the Marxists wish to prepare the people for Communism through strong leadership. At least that is how this election is being framed. The Anarchists still have a particular vision of how the empowerment will occur. But for many supporters thats not the issue. Does that make sense?

Alternatively, these are cleverly phrased smear campaigns to give the Marxists an image of denying the farmer his rights when in fact the Anarchists have just as much to say on the issue (namely nothing).
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Yes, that makes sense and is probably part of the issue.
 
As we approach the end of the election I have good news.

We currently have 53 votes, that means this election has had a higher turnout than the last. Yay!

UC: 18
Anarchists: 13
Marxists: 12
Socialists: 10

I can't tell you how close that actual vote is right now. Earlier today I did a count with the Workers' Vote added in and the UC were ahead by 0.665% I'm not sure what the score is right now but I'm sure it can't be more than a percent or two to any particular faction.
 
Vote Collective Anarchists
 
noddy102 said:
Vote Collective Anarchists
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That should count as 5 votes -- show some respect, Tommy4ever.


Ahem, anyway... A final argument for why the Collective Anarchists deserve your vote:

"Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, I have one final thing I want you to consider. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about it; that does not make sense!
Why would a Wookiee, an eight-foot tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of two-foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a lawyer defending a major record company, and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you're in that jury room deliberatin' and conjugatin' the Emancipation Proclamation, does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! The defense rests."

I know you all will do the right thing.
 
Kadon said:
That should count as 5 votes -- show some respect, Tommy4ever.


Ahem, anyway... A final argument for why the Collective Anarchists deserve your vote:

"Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, I have one final thing I want you to consider. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about it; that does not make sense!
Why would a Wookiee, an eight-foot tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of two-foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a lawyer defending a major record company, and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you're in that jury room deliberatin' and conjugatin' the Emancipation Proclamation, does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! The defense rests."

I know you all will do the right thing.
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Chewbacca lives on Kashyyyk...

EDIT: Anyway, where is that from? I've seen it before :p
 
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