EU4 Dev Clash #11 - Baltic Elephants - Tuesdays 15:00 CET

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If Comrade Pope-man rejects his papal authority and buries his grudge with Comrade Doge they are both welcomed to join the First International commencing soon(tm)

We have more things in common that you can imagine. The Pope is not a member of a ruling dynasty. The Pope is just a normal person who happens to be infallible*.

* conditions may apply
 
Before going Communist, Comrade Pope-man should first write his manifesto @Duplo ;)

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While I might not have been able to truly channel the incandescent light of the Venice AI and her Battle Doge I assure you that I will stand til the very end, fighting for our #VÄLFÄRD
 
While I might not have been able to truly channel the incandescent light of the Venice AI and her Battle Doge I assure you that I will stand til the very end, fighting for our #VÄLFÄRD

Not the hero we deserve, but the hero we need.

Respect!

#VÄLFÄRD <3
 
1708 - World Stats
Het Jaar des Heren 1708

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## STATS FOR MP ###
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Current Score
  1. Ming 8602 (+6.12)
  2. Persia 6844 (+5.98)
  3. Dithmarschen 5566 (+5.89)
  4. Netherlands 5548 (+4.76)
  5. France 5276 (+2.94)
  6. Gujarat 3828 (+3.53)
  7. Ottomans 3253 (+0.45)
  8. Spain 3114 (+0.00)
  9. Delhi 2582 (+-0.18)
  10. Dai Viet 2526 (+1.22)
  11. Prussia 2023 (+1.45)
  12. Ethiopia 1966 (+3.04)
  13. Japan 1510 (+0.00)
  14. The Papal State 1425 (+1.00)
  15. Theodoro 816 (+0.22)
  16. Venice 768 (+0.13)
  17. Portugal 613 (+0.00)
  18. Korea 553 (+0.00)
  19. Kilwa 524 (+0.90)
  20. Muscovy 372 (+0.00)
Development
  1. France 2241
  2. Dithmarschen 2197
  3. Ming 1976
  4. Netherlands 1893
  5. Persia 1674
  6. Delhi 1568
  7. Gujarat 1231
  8. Theodoro 1170
  9. Ethiopia 1154
  10. Kilwa 956
  11. Dai Viet 927
  12. Korea 752
  13. Hanover 708
  14. Prussia 680
  15. Sweden 551
  16. The Papal State 506
  17. Spain 496
  18. Venice 453
  19. Chagatai 398
  20. Spanish La Plata 394
Income
  1. Netherlands 743.51
  2. Dithmarschen 562.14
  3. Ming 523.60
  4. France 413.85
  5. Persia 362.91
  6. Kilwa 294.26
  7. Gujarat 285.46
  8. Theodoro 160.13
  9. Venice 155.48
  10. Delhi 147.80
  11. Korea 145.71
  12. Hanover 122.23
  13. Spain 120.50
  14. Dai Viet 114.33
  15. Ethiopia 113.98
  16. The Papal State 107.87
  17. Portugal 98.19
  18. Prussia 81.99
  19. Portuguese Brazil 70.85
  20. Mongolia 69.85
Max. Manpower
  1. Gujarat 18,900
  2. Habsan 18,850
  3. Iceland 18,000
  4. Transoxiana 17,680
  5. Chagatai 17,600
  6. Ming 17,500
  7. Sweden 17,500
  8. Korchin 17,500
  9. Portuguese Brazil 17,000
  10. Poland 16,800
  11. Mzab 16,760
  12. Ottomans 16,700
  13. Theodoro 16,500
  14. Tunis 16,280
  15. Spain 16,000
  16. Spanish La Plata 16,000
  17. New Spain 16,000
  18. Vinland 16,000
  19. Malacca 15,870
  20. Buryatia 15,500
Standing Army
  1. France 230k
  2. Ming 228k
  3. Theodoro 205k
  4. Gujarat 196k
  5. Persia 180k
  6. Netherlands 158k
  7. Kilwa 145k
  8. Dithmarschen 130k
  9. Delhi 127k
  10. Ethiopia 107k
  11. Prussia 97,983
  12. Dai Viet 96,000
  13. The Papal State 90,000
  14. Sweden 80,000
  15. Spain 76,750
  16. Korea 73,262
  17. Venice 71,939
  18. Chagatai 68,000
  19. Hanover 63,000
  20. Spanish La Plata 47,000
War Fleet
  1. Dithmarschen 260/0
  2. Netherlands 208/0
  3. Ming 63/98
  4. Venice 13/60
  5. Korea 2/33
  6. Spain 23/10
  7. Portugal 28/0
  8. Persia 8/18
  9. The Papal State 11/12
  10. Kilwa 22/0
  11. France 21/0
  12. Prussia 10/6
  13. Tunis 3/13
  14. Japan 0/13
  15. Tlemcen 0/13
  16. Hanover 11/0
  17. Kikuchi 0/10
  18. Ottomans 0/8
  19. Australia 6/0
  20. Ryukyu 0/5
Trade Fleet
  1. Netherlands 258
  2. Ming 69
  3. Spain 41
  4. Ethiopia 37
  5. Portugal 33
  6. Kilwa 30
  7. Hanover 30
  8. Portuguese Brazil 30
  9. Spanish La Plata 26
  10. California 24
  11. Persia 22
  12. Theodoro 21
  13. Alaska 20
  14. New Portugal 20
  15. Dithmarschen 19
  16. Gujarat 16
  17. Sweden 15
  18. Morocco 11
  19. Venice 10
  20. Australia 10
Technologies
  1. France 75
  2. Theodoro 73
  3. Netherlands 72
  4. Ming 72
  5. Dithmarschen 72
  6. Gujarat 72
  7. Tunis 72
  8. Malacca 72
  9. Korea 72
  10. The Papal State 72
  11. Bohemia 72
  12. Ava 72
  13. Mongolia 72
  14. Lithuania 72
  15. California 71
  16. Persia 71
  17. Alaska 71
  18. New Portugal 71
  19. Muscovy 71
  20. Poland 71
Great Power
  1. France 2187
  2. Ming 2154
  3. Dithmarschen 2124
  4. Netherlands 1769
  5. Persia 1597
  6. Delhi 1465
  7. Ethiopia 1220
  8. Gujarat 1159
    [~]Theodoro 1093
    [~]Spain 987
    [~]Kilwa 893
    [~]Korea 768
    [~]Hanover 661
    [~]Prussia 635
    [~]The Papal State 472
    [~]Chagatai 439
    [~]Venice 423
    [~]Sweden 350
    [~]Portugal 335
    [~]Nitra 293
 
I have full confidence in both the Atlantic and Pacific fleets to be able to handle any threats in their respective spheres. I highly doubt it will ever be necessary to combine these fleets.

RED STAR RISING!

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While I might not have been able to truly channel the incandescent light of the Venice AI and her Battle Doge I assure you that I will stand til the very end, fighting for our #VÄLFÄRD

It was a tough war, and I got to be defensive a lot of times to avoid losing my few men. I still can't understand how you manage to throw at me 120k men. Luckily for me my generals and the two Popes I got during those wars were pretty good.

It was actually a lot of fun and excitement!
 
It was a tough war, and I got to be defensive a lot of times to avoid losing my few men. I still can't understand how you manage to throw at me 120k men. Luckily for me my generals and the two Popes I got during those wars were pretty good.

It was actually a lot of fun and excitement!
What was the 'self stackwipe' about?


Also I missed this during the stream: Where did Enlightenment spawn?
 
After the failure of the first Venetian Retribution War, Pope Marcellus took up arms again and challenged the Doge to a duel. While overwhelmingly outnumbered, the disciplined reformed Swiss Guards under the guidance of His Holiness himself and his best generals, were able to stand against the glorified paesants of Venice.

A monument to all the fallen will be built in Verona, to remind the all the Italian men and women the atrocities of war. A war between brethren. A war between former allies and friends.
 
It's funny how the Kaiser, who has nearly no possibility to win overall, managed to distract everyone from the battle for the first place trophy.
At this point I think only Persia (16?), Gujarat(15?), Delhi(17+??) and France(20?) have realistic chances to take the final trophy, due to them having points in the 15-20 range. KJ can't get more than 22, and I think Bratyn can't get more than 21(?).
Does anyone have an exact count of the likely age end score? My estimates might be off.