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Good session, folks. Too bad y'all got completely overshadowed by that Venitian AI.

Darth. said:
Okay did I miss something last stream? What happened to Bavaria? Am waiting for the current stream (missed like 3/4ths of it) to get over before I check out the VOD to see if they say anything at the start.
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Bavaria has always been kinda under the radar for the entire campaign. Not sure if they have even been brought up at all in the last two sessions.
 
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    1. Ming 4817 (+4.14)
    2. Delhi 3493 (+2.43)
    3. Ottomans 3249 (+0.00)
    4. Persia 3223 (+3.00)
    5. Burgundy 2614 (+1.85)
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    2. Dithmarschen 1612
    3. Delhi 1505
    4. Burgundy 1231
    5. Persia 1166
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    8. Gujarat 933
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    10. Theodoro 695
    11. Dai Viet 687
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    13. Korea 540
    14. Sweden 537
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    17. Chagatai 482
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    20. The Papal State 418
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    2. Burgundy 249.14
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    18. Sweden 62.99
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    8. Sweden 17,500
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    19. Portuguese Brazil 16,000
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    2. Dithmarschen 147k
    3. Gujarat 140k
    4. Delhi 120k
    5. Ethiopia 106k
    6. Persia 105k
    7. Sweden 97,000
    8. Korea 96,000
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    11. Netherlands 75,317
    12. Chagatai 75,000
    13. Prussia 70,000
    14. Spain 68,990
    15. Dai Viet 60,000
    16. Venice 57,158
    17. Portugal 54,000
    18. The Papal State 53,888
    19. Hanover 52,000
    20. Ottomans 48,000
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    2. Netherlands 83/0
    3. Venice 9/60
    4. Korea 13/23
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    6. The Papal State 0/20
    7. Sweden 5/12
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    9. Tlemcen 0/16
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    15. Kikuchi 0/11
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    18. Pasai 8/0
    19. Prussia 0/7
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    2. Dithmarschen 63
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    4. Ming 40
    5. Hanover 31
    6. Kilwa 31
    7. Portugal 28
    8. Malacca 27
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    11. Pasai 21
    12. Ethiopia 21
    13. Theodoro 20
    14. Delhi 17
    15. Korea 16
    16. Gujarat 16
    17. Sweden 15
    18. Dutch West Indies 15
    19. California 12
    20. Brunei 10
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    2. Bohemia 58
    3. Mong Nai 58
    4. Netherlands 57
    5. Spain 57
    6. Korea 57
    7. California 57
    8. Prussia 57
    9. Venice 57
    10. Lithuania 57
    11. The Papal State 57
    12. Burgundy 57
    13. Brandenburg 57
    14. Kilwa 56
    15. Gujarat 56
    16. Dutch West Indies 56
    17. Brittany 56
    18. Alaska 56
    19. Spanish Canada 56
    20. Austria 56
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    2. Dithmarschen 1656
    3. Burgundy 1231
    4. Persia 1201
    5. Ottomans 1115
    6. Netherlands 1084
    7. Delhi 1075
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      [~]Gujarat 703
      [~]Kilwa 585
      [~]Portugal 563
      [~]Korea 554
      [~]Prussia 514
      [~]Hanover 504
      [~]Theodoro 496
      [~]Chagatai 482
      [~]The Papal State 418
      [~]Sweden 383
      [~]Japan 373
     
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    • Cookiepie said:
    ^not looking at the top for the max manpowers I imagine @Bratyn
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    I have no idea what is wrong with the manpower list... It comes from the exact same print using the command line... I will ask Groogy when he is back.

    In any case, it is certainly not correct. My own max manpower is about 40k, for instance. Persia's is 140k.
     
    The Pope got himself beaten by AI Venice led by 666 doge. Symbolism?

    Darth. said:
    Okay did I miss something last stream? What happened to Bavaria? Am waiting for the current stream (missed like 3/4ths of it) to get over before I check out the VOD to see if they say anything at the start.
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    IIRC they got themselves coalition while the italian war was going on last week.
     
    It funny, I found this session entertaining, but I didn't really feel like cheering for anyone.
    Everyone either came across as too predictable or too disappointing.

    The biggest disappointment was of course Norway Scotland Iceland, rolling over dead without even trying.

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    sprites said:
    power , glory , Burgundy? :D
    just eat Brittany to get a pretty border plz.
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    I will do that next session, this time I had to choose between them and Spain who was holding trade center on Genoa's node.
     
    The devs must be proud of their AI after what Venice managed to pull. My god what a laugh. I wish AI was always that smart :p

    PS: I don't understand why people are helping grow a monster like Dheli. The people's republic should go help the opressed people's of india.
     
    Bratyn said:
    I have no idea what is wrong with the manpower list... It comes from the exact same print using the command line... I will ask Groogy when he is back.

    In any case, it is certainly not correct. My own max manpower is about 40k, for instance. Persia's is 140k.
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    Fair enough^^. Think it'd be possible to toss in land forcelimit as well going forward?
     
    cristofolmc said:
    PS: I don't understand why people are helping grow a monster like Dheli.
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    I find myself asking the same question.
    I suppose it's linked to a much less dense player population in India compared to Europe.
    Last week we were still around 11 in Western/Central Europe whereas the Indian region only has 5 or maybe 6.
     
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