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Scotland Forever

I am tempted to call this section, "Just give us some peace." Somewhere John Lennon is singing sweetly. :)

But as it is, we remain at war with the Pope and his allies while Scotland attempts to corral the economy (a rather enlightened attitude, surely) and begin planning to pay off the debt. Here's where we sit as June of 1423 begins:

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That monthly balance changes, of course. You can see that England has already started to fortify the border. And it seems that our heavenly foes have some issues...

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But still no peace to be found. In fact, I decide that as long as I am going to stay at war, I might as well get something out of it...one more round of war taxes (that makes 4 so far.) I know it is killing my inflation and not helping one bit on war exhaustion, but I need the money. I am reminded of yet another Beatle...George singing Taxman. ;)

In August, however, our eyes are turned to some royal business...it seems Murdoch is fairly happy running things and is in no hurry to see James return home. He remained in England after the war and only now he forms the council to gain some advice.

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Again...no great hurry.

Apparently this did not sit well with Walter, our nemesis it seems...

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Yet the rebellion does not appear immediately...

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But you can see our exhaustion. It's only a matter of time and then...

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Damn! Thought I could ride this out. It's November and still no peace. I give France military access when they ask and send the Pope yet another kind letter of peace...nothing doing. In fact, I try to go around him and ask Provence...they say no as well.

As irritated as I am, I see that the Pope is no large worry compared to things at home...

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The English attempt to go behind us and marry off our King to their...Beaufort. Unseemly! However, if things go a certain way, it could net us the English throne. ;) Only problem is, it gives us a royal marriage with them...good or bad? A little of both, actually.

The rebellion is easily put down...

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But I have to worry about the English. They are already building up and I am still sitting in an uncomfortable place with my economy. The war taxes have helped a little. But it's now 1424 and this is what we are dealing with...

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Note: Once I lower Military maint. after the rebellion, this will get slightly better.

And this is England...

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I'm not frightened so much as curious. What are those shopkeepers doing down there? What are they playing it? And why won't they return our damn King??? :confused::mad:
 
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I think this is a good time to play nicey-nice with the English. Butter them up and hit Ireland after you resuscitate your economy. Maybe a royal marriage with the English if you don't have one already. You can't afford to keep that large of an army! Oh and pay the Pope off for peace with 25 ducats. It worked in my war with Burgundy. ;)

Joe
 
8.56 % Inflation in 1424...ouch, wars are quite expensive :p!
 
The English army is clearly a job-creation programme. :)
 
It seems that England wants to make sure that James arrives safely in Scotland, so they provide for a big escort. :D
 
Damn the pope. Have you thought about paying him a visit?
 
Highlandsrevolt1423.jpg

Damn! Thought I could ride this out. It's November and still no peace. I give France military access when they ask and send the Pope yet another kind letter of peace...nothing doing. In fact, I try to go around him and ask Provence...they say no as well.
Yeah, those Gaels of the Hielans are dangerous wild people. Keep your Scots eye on them;)
 
Bah, it's not even 10% yet! He's hardly in any trouble...

Go back and read Professor Ebbesen's treatises on inflation and conquering the world...

Nice work, coz...I see I am getting tempted to buy FtG, if only for the new event chain possibilities.

Good luck kicking the English around...
TheExecuter
 
Well...that 8 inflation is worth it as long as you crush the silly angles. Indeed, PE's WC AARs were something to behold back in the day. After all, inflation doesn't matter if one person controls all the gold :D

As for where next...perhaps you could start the plantations in ulster a little early and preemptively vassalize the rest of the island...to protect against the shopkeepers, of course ;)
 
I'm not familiar with the recent version of AGCEEP so my question is what about Ireland? Do you have cores and/or culture on them? If I remember correctly during the first years they doesn't really have any forts so a quick cavalry victory could give you almost the whole island in a war.
 
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They look rather uncommitted to anything and bored. Better the devil you know that the one you don't and idle hands are the devils plaything. Keep a good eye on them. Any plans to head to the emerald isle soon?
I'd agree with that. They are certainly just starting to build up so I suspect those numbers of troops will rise. On Ireland, I am weighing my options. If feasible, I would not mind heading over there, even if it's a foothold. It would save me some time ferrying them over when I inevitably fight the English again.

I think this is a good time to play nicey-nice with the English. Butter them up and hit Ireland after you resuscitate your economy. Maybe a royal marriage with the English if you don't have one already. You can't afford to keep that large of an army! Oh and pay the Pope off for peace with 25 ducats. It worked in my war with Burgundy. ;)

Joe
With the RM we just entered into, I imagine this is the best route. I'll have a decision to make when/if France and/or Burgundy DoW's England - stay with them or follow my alliance? But you are right - I am not yet able to field a large enough army to fight the English alone.

8.56 % Inflation in 1424...ouch, wars are quite expensive :p!
Yeah, that was the worst of it from the war. I am a sucker for war taxes which get pricey after a while.

The English army is clearly a job-creation programme. :)
Heh. Perhaps that is Brown's influence since he got to stay there. ;) I wonder...does England have fantasy districts in which to create those jobs? :D

The correct Scots phrase would be "Away an' geez peace!"
Then yell it from the rooftops so the Pope can hear it well! :D

It seems that England wants to make sure that James arrives safely in Scotland, so they provide for a big escort. :D
That's perhaps it...they do create a little path. I wonder how the Stewart boys will handle that if they actually do return James to us, new Beaufort bride and all?

Damn the pope. Have you thought about paying him a visit?
I have but there is really only one way to do it and that is by land. My pitiful 5k navy isn't going to do much damage down there and by the time I hike some troops all the way to Italy (leaving Scotland undefended, by and large, they'll probably white peace out anyway.

Without a real navy, and/or MA's that won't be possible I think.
Better to wait for a white peace.
Exactly. And even if I could get MA, look at the stack in Provence. That's more that I want to screw with right now.

Yeah, those Gaels of the Hielans are dangerous wild people. Keep your Scots eye on them;)
Doing my best, of course. They didn't prove much issue. It's the potential future rebels I have an eye on. It could get messy if the Stewarts can't start getting along. Don't they know all kinds of mayhem will be just around the corner for England? Unite boys. Find the real enemy.

Yeah I agree. That could be a problem in long-way for sure:)
It'll be a test of my best economic stewardship...which isn't much. :eek:o We'll see.

Yup, governors are far, far away.
But there are nice deflation events in AGCEEP, it helps sometimes :p !
I have to hope I'll see those events soon, too. I could use more than one. ;)

Bah, it's not even 10% yet! He's hardly in any trouble...

Go back and read Professor Ebbesen's treatises on inflation and conquering the world...

Nice work, coz...I see I am getting tempted to buy FtG, if only for the new event chain possibilities.

Good luck kicking the English around...
TheExecuter
Indeed, I have read Peter's treatise on both High Inflation and Low Stability. I am much less scared of either now after having read them than I was before. Of course, it would help me immensely had I the ability to play the game as well as Ebbesen, so I'll have to hope his spirit might help guide my hand.

You can actually already get a good portion of the event chain in the current AGCEEP for EUII. But FtG throws some other handy bits and pieces in that make it worth it. I still have quite a few things to mess around with, actually.

Well...that 8 inflation is worth it as long as you crush the silly angles. Indeed, PE's WC AARs were something to behold back in the day. After all, inflation doesn't matter if one person controls all the gold :D

As for where next...perhaps you could start the plantations in ulster a little early and preemptively vassalize the rest of the island...to protect against the shopkeepers, of course ;)
It'll be a long time before I own all the gold, if ever. No WC here, though his lessons still apply. And you are right - they were good ones. I'm looking over at Ireland. Need to size them up fully.

I'm not familiar with the recent version of AGCEEP so my question is what about Ireland? Do you have cores and/or culture on them? If I remember correctly during the first years they doesn't really have any forts so a quick cavalry victory could give you almost the whole island in a war.
I do not have any cores on them and I'll have to check the culture map. But I do believe you are right - they should be fairly under fortified. They did get some building done during that last war though, even if they didn't use them. However, let's not forget the thumping I received from the vaunted Ulster navy. :rolleyes:

I doubt it that there was ever inflation in Scotland during middle ages... Inflation with what money? :p
Hey, I have a few ducats there... :p

Yeah, not a good place to be, just hold the center and the rest will follow. Don't take any guff from those highlanders either, buncha nancy boys.
Now, now...we need to bring all under the fold, both highland and lowland Scot. I'll need a combined effort to truly beat the English. But if they give me some lip, Murdoch ain't standing for it. I suspect it's all Walter's doing. Just because he doesn't want the King back. :mad: Of course, Murdoch doesn't appear to be working terribly hard and fast to return him either. :rolleyes:


To all - got a stack of four movies on the floor that require viewing and a painful wrist after a long day of typing (though you won't find me complaining about typing out these answers...thank you for giving me reason to give feedback to the feedback. :D) I think I'm going to rest on the seventh day and get back to things tomorrow.

Still weighing my options so I'm still open to any and all suggestions. Of course, item number one on the list is paying the loan. I suspect I will need to float it for another five years so anything I do in Ireland may be funded, but it'll be financially tight. Storey is right - I really can't afford keeping an over the limit army. I need to tighten up the treasury badly to get inflation under control.
 
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I do not have any cores on them and I'll have to check the culture map. But I do believe you are right - they should be fairly under fortified. They did get some building done during that last war though, even if they didn't use them. However, let's not forget the thumping I received from the vaunted Ulster navy. :rolleyes:

It's high time to get some galleys then! :p