{{ Well mine isn't a great trader and he knows that they bring wealth via taxes. Also he feels guilty for things that happened in Konstantinopolis }}
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{{Columbio, join us, the sweet song of madness needs another. di Capponi sings a good alto, and I a good baritone. We need your tenor for this trio to be complete}}
{{ I'm a base, not a filthy tenor!
Also, Colombo ought to be 35 exactly, did I do my math wrong? }}
{{ CONSPIRACY ALERT
CONSPIRACY ALERT CONSPIRACY ALERT
The reason the Blues want to keep the jews is because they ARE Jews... }}
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A blue saying this. We can now safely wrap up the faction meeting and move on with the story - there is nothing more to be seen here. But I like the competition for the faction speaker. Colombo is clearly the smartest of the madmen, maybe he can convince them to elect him?}}
A blue saying this. We can now safely wrap up the faction meeting and move on with the story - there is nothing more to be seen here. But I like the competition for the faction speaker. Colombo is clearly the smartest of the madmen, maybe he can convince them to elect him?}}
{{ Interesting, the Blue policies line up pretty well with Lodovio's. If he had joined the blues, he would have stayed timid, and think of how different things would be! My goodness! }}
{{ Stringie, ta Byoo policies macchit Lodovico's. Iff he haud jinet ta Byoos, he vaild haiw steyt unhardy, an' tink of hou dyfferent thyngs vaild be! Bi' Goad! }}
{{ Stringie, ta Byoo policies macchit Lodovico's. Iff he haud jinet ta Byoos, he vaild haiw steyt unhardy, an' tink of hou dyfferent thyngs vaild be! Bi' Goad! }}
{{Hm, it's 30 according to the google sheets document Czoklet sent}}
{{The bearded guy still didn't return so chaos can still erupt
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The Reverend Senator Dooley Azizid, Bishop of Azerbaijan, Armenia, and the Roman Far East:
"We can't afford even one soldier to be cut from our hordes. All martial cuts must focus on the Navy. My family is not blue for naval combat, but for colonization and the rationality and tolerance of its members towards those unlike them."
Bishop Dooley nodded.
"It hurts a settler to see a raid and to see looting more than it hurts people like me. Though I do not interpret it to be as bad as you do," here, the Mongol laid a hand on Raoul, "I will certainly pray for you and your family tonight. I buried my brother to this plague, and I nearly tasted death myself as I caught it."
He looked to the Colombo.
"Let me tell you one of the steppe's harshest lessons. When you ride to live and roam land to land, you must have a leader at the helm. Not a nice man, for nice men either finish last or serve the Church, but a strong, viciously ruthless leader who can unite everyone by fear. I see in you the spirit of a steppe rider. Why, I bet you ride like it's second nature! Colombo, your sociopathy will do you well in standing down the enemies of the Imperium and defending this Khural on the floor of the Khuraltai. You are a poor Christian- if I can call you one in the first place -but you are a born leader, a natural mastermind of cunning. You may very well give us command of the Khuraltai."
He leaned closer to the Senator, giving him a face full of Mongolian features.
"You are fit to lead this Khural. Let me say it flatly. You, Colombo, should be the leader of this Khural. I do not like your personality and I loathe your unbecoming, un-Christian behavior. I see darkness in your soul, but if God can use evil to advance His kingdom, then He can advance our kingdom, our Imperium, with you. I do not trust you, but my people always trust their gut feeling. Colombo, do you feel fit to ride our Khural to glory?"
"We can't afford even one soldier to be cut from our hordes. All martial cuts must focus on the Navy. My family is not blue for naval combat, but for colonization and the rationality and tolerance of its members towards those unlike them."
Bishop Dooley nodded.
"It hurts a settler to see a raid and to see looting more than it hurts people like me. Though I do not interpret it to be as bad as you do," here, the Mongol laid a hand on Raoul, "I will certainly pray for you and your family tonight. I buried my brother to this plague, and I nearly tasted death myself as I caught it."
He looked to the Colombo.
"Let me tell you one of the steppe's harshest lessons. When you ride to live and roam land to land, you must have a leader at the helm. Not a nice man, for nice men either finish last or serve the Church, but a strong, viciously ruthless leader who can unite everyone by fear. I see in you the spirit of a steppe rider. Why, I bet you ride like it's second nature! Colombo, your sociopathy will do you well in standing down the enemies of the Imperium and defending this Khural on the floor of the Khuraltai. You are a poor Christian- if I can call you one in the first place -but you are a born leader, a natural mastermind of cunning. You may very well give us command of the Khuraltai."
He leaned closer to the Senator, giving him a face full of Mongolian features.
"You are fit to lead this Khural. Let me say it flatly. You, Colombo, should be the leader of this Khural. I do not like your personality and I loathe your unbecoming, un-Christian behavior. I see darkness in your soul, but if God can use evil to advance His kingdom, then He can advance our kingdom, our Imperium, with you. I do not trust you, but my people always trust their gut feeling. Colombo, do you feel fit to ride our Khural to glory?"
The Reverend Senator Dooley Azizid, Bishop of Azerbaijan, Armenia, and the Roman Far East:
"With all this talk about everything under the sky, I forgot to say which three policies I considered. I agree fully on the ship maintenance reforms and a fervent focus on trade. -but I must ask: what is the greatest oppurtunity of trade? Colonization. Now is NOT the time to scale back colonization. We need to preserve or hordes and maintain transport ships, but we should be focusing our navy's mission on colonization. It's far cheaper than amnaging a legion of carracks and has permanent benefits. Which one of you said that salt was so vital? Do you know where salt lies? On the virgin seas! Spices, men, think of the expensive spices! Think of the silk! There is no greater way, none, to better trade and the Imperium's wealth than fervent colonization."
{{ OOC: I believe we should add a colonizing modifier instead of naval morale. Perhaps a settler increase to counter tropical colonization drawbacks? }}
"My family is bent on colonizing the world before the Xenoi beat us to it. Let's take this oppurtunity to trade our expensive warships for cheap colonies. I mean, it takes two Hyperrions a month to dispatch one colonist! -and protecting the colony is easy! We can only send one colonist out at a time, so why not just accompany them with a small horde to keep them safe? That would stop any risks of native attacks. Simple!"
"With all this talk about everything under the sky, I forgot to say which three policies I considered. I agree fully on the ship maintenance reforms and a fervent focus on trade. -but I must ask: what is the greatest oppurtunity of trade? Colonization. Now is NOT the time to scale back colonization. We need to preserve or hordes and maintain transport ships, but we should be focusing our navy's mission on colonization. It's far cheaper than amnaging a legion of carracks and has permanent benefits. Which one of you said that salt was so vital? Do you know where salt lies? On the virgin seas! Spices, men, think of the expensive spices! Think of the silk! There is no greater way, none, to better trade and the Imperium's wealth than fervent colonization."
{{ OOC: I believe we should add a colonizing modifier instead of naval morale. Perhaps a settler increase to counter tropical colonization drawbacks? }}
"My family is bent on colonizing the world before the Xenoi beat us to it. Let's take this oppurtunity to trade our expensive warships for cheap colonies. I mean, it takes two Hyperrions a month to dispatch one colonist! -and protecting the colony is easy! We can only send one colonist out at a time, so why not just accompany them with a small horde to keep them safe? That would stop any risks of native attacks. Simple!"
Senator Alexius Colombo:
"The issue with using the navy as an escort tool is that due to our bankruptcy, the morale of the navy has plummeted, and will remain low for some time. If we engaged a hostile navy, even a small one, we would be crushed. We cannot lose our ships, they are too big of an investment. They must stay in port unless they are ferrying soldiers or trading. If, Christos forbid, war comes, we will just have to take risks with transporting our soldiers, or move them via land. I am just as unhappy as you are about this, trust me.
Alexius then turns to the other Senators.
"While none of my family has been a member of the Blues, we have strong connections. Domenico worked closely with the Blues, forging an alliance that led to a great deal of progress. My grandfather, Christoforo, was an explorer and seaman for much of his life, until he succumbed to the madness of the Whites. And above all, the Colombo Company was a vital trading syndicate for many years..."
"This is OUR hour, and as your leader, I will bring the Blues to power! For too many years the merchants and diplomats have been spat upon, for too many years the beaurecrats have grown fat off our labor!"
"We shall bring the Imperium to prosperity, and the Blues will feast on the Lion's share of the carcasses of our enemies, inside and outside the Imperium!"
"Little do the other blues know how literal that last statement was" , Alexius thought to himself as he sat down.
"The issue with using the navy as an escort tool is that due to our bankruptcy, the morale of the navy has plummeted, and will remain low for some time. If we engaged a hostile navy, even a small one, we would be crushed. We cannot lose our ships, they are too big of an investment. They must stay in port unless they are ferrying soldiers or trading. If, Christos forbid, war comes, we will just have to take risks with transporting our soldiers, or move them via land. I am just as unhappy as you are about this, trust me.
Alexius then turns to the other Senators.
"While none of my family has been a member of the Blues, we have strong connections. Domenico worked closely with the Blues, forging an alliance that led to a great deal of progress. My grandfather, Christoforo, was an explorer and seaman for much of his life, until he succumbed to the madness of the Whites. And above all, the Colombo Company was a vital trading syndicate for many years..."
"This is OUR hour, and as your leader, I will bring the Blues to power! For too many years the merchants and diplomats have been spat upon, for too many years the beaurecrats have grown fat off our labor!"
"We shall bring the Imperium to prosperity, and the Blues will feast on the Lion's share of the carcasses of our enemies, inside and outside the Imperium!"
"Little do the other blues know how literal that last statement was" , Alexius thought to himself as he sat down.
{{ The issue with colonizing is that being bankrupt destroys your colonial growth, IIRC. And anyways, the colonial idea costs 30 points on its own, more than we can afford. Even if we could get it, the other Demes would lambast us for "wasting money on frivolous ventures" }}
{{EDIT: I find it hilarious that the two Blues who hate me most are supporting me. Also, I have no "attitude", your Senators can't mind read and I've been nothing but polite out loud! }}
{{EDIT: I find it hilarious that the two Blues who hate me most are supporting me. Also, I have no "attitude", your Senators can't mind read and I've been nothing but polite out loud!
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Senator Duilius Arrius:
Senator Azizid, I too long to discover more of the unknown world... but do you truly believe now is the time? The Imperium has been hurt with this plague, we have countless rebels, and Italia is actively insulting our Augustus. We simply cannot waste any effort on colonization at this time. We must defeat these rebels, repair the damage done, and strengthen our economy. Once the Imperium has recovered, then we Blue Demes may speak for colonization. I fear even mentioning the idea to the Reds will poison any chance of an alliance.
Senator Colombo, you are a Blue Deme now but you know how the Whites think. Am I mistaken in my thoughts?
Senator Azizid, I too long to discover more of the unknown world... but do you truly believe now is the time? The Imperium has been hurt with this plague, we have countless rebels, and Italia is actively insulting our Augustus. We simply cannot waste any effort on colonization at this time. We must defeat these rebels, repair the damage done, and strengthen our economy. Once the Imperium has recovered, then we Blue Demes may speak for colonization. I fear even mentioning the idea to the Reds will poison any chance of an alliance.
Senator Colombo, you are a Blue Deme now but you know how the Whites think. Am I mistaken in my thoughts?
Senator Alexius Colombo:
Aye, I would agree with that. We simply don't have the political capital to even propose such an idea, never mind convince others. If we wish to work with the Reds, we cannot even mention colonization, I'm afraid. Look at it this way: the Blues are a baby, a baby destined for great things. But one does not feed a baby meat immediately. You start with breast milk, graduate to porridge, and so on. You do this with the knowledge that one day the child will be able to hunt and kill for his own, and bring his prey back to his family. The Blues must first right the finances of the Imperium, then we can dare to dream.."
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Wrong. I wanted increased settler rates (+10 additional settlers a year or increased settler chance), NOT a new colonist. That is within the points budget! Also, bankruptcy does not last forever. Bishop Dooley is looking ahead to when bankruptcy is done.
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The Reverend Senator Dooley Azizid, Bishop of Azerbaijan, Armenia, and the Roman Far East:
"You have impressed me again, Colombo. You're as smart my little brother!" the Mongol chuckled, smiling to the man who was the opposite of his personality. "I can certainly see your argument on that. I think the Red Khural will back us even if we go through with colonization because we are all universally in agreement on preserving the Imperium's hordes at the cost of the Roman navy. If we cut men, our enemies will smell blood in the fields and come galloping towards us all at once. I am sure the Red Khural will both be shocked and pleased to hear us so willing to mothball non-transport naval assets. I still say a focus on colonization is the absolute best way to increase our trade revenue."
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Colombo must be loving how he has this Mongolian bishop in his hands like that. Tell me, does a Mongol taste like horsemeat?
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"You have impressed me again, Colombo. You're as smart my little brother!" the Mongol chuckled, smiling to the man who was the opposite of his personality. "I can certainly see your argument on that. I think the Red Khural will back us even if we go through with colonization because we are all universally in agreement on preserving the Imperium's hordes at the cost of the Roman navy. If we cut men, our enemies will smell blood in the fields and come galloping towards us all at once. I am sure the Red Khural will both be shocked and pleased to hear us so willing to mothball non-transport naval assets. I still say a focus on colonization is the absolute best way to increase our trade revenue."
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Colombo must be loving how he has this Mongolian bishop in his hands like that. Tell me, does a Mongol taste like horsemeat?
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{{ I find it puzzling that you talk about colonization and not a single word was said about, you know, exploration:
Oh well. }}
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{{ The guy will return tomorrow when I have time to finish what he's going to say{{The bearded guy still didn't return so chaos can still erupt
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{{Hey, I've tried to get some exploration done. The Reds and Whites don't listen. }}
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{{Careful @TurtleShroom, like Game of Thrones, the decent nice guy idealists are always the first to die or be broken in the name of grimdark cynicism. I mean, look at what happened with Bubba!}}
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{{Yes we shall burn the navy just out of spite for the Blues (aside from the transport ships) then we will drop them all on one of their island colonies and leave them to face the natives. The Imperium may burn but it will be worth it!!!!}}
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Senator Alexius Colombo:
"It is important to remember that while we may redirect ourselves from colonization in the short term, we can switch back to a more colonial-friendly orientation once the crisis has passed. It is not so much that colonization is bad, more that there is an opportunity cost involved. If we maintain a colonial focus, we must leave out improvements to the navy and Imperial Finances. Let it be known that as Leader of the Blue Demes, if an opportunity arises to further the cause of exploration and colonization, we shall seize it."
Colombo then turns to the other Senators.
"It appears we are at an impasse. Nikephorus supports Duilius, whilst Absalon and Dooley support me for Speaker. Let it be known that I am not an unreasonable man. I am willing to negotiate if need be. Are there any of my proposed policies that Duilius and Nikephorus would like to see changed, and by my doing so, cease support for another leader?
Here they are in totality"
Deme Policies:
We must implement cost saving techniques in the navy. {{-10% Naval Maintenance, 5 Points }}
We must improve the efficiency of our trade. {{ +15% Trade efficiency, 15 points }}
We must increase the durability of our ships {{ +10% ship durability 5 points}}
Resolutions:
#1: Administrative Focus shall not be implemented
#2: All Imperial ships save for transport ships and trade ships are to be mothballed
#3: Tariffs are to be raised as a one-time measure
#4: The Jews are to be left alone, not stripped of property
#5: Privateers shall be enlisted
#6: Lands of the Holy Church shall be expropriated to the Imperium
Policies:
"Lex forveteur Production Commercia" shall be enacted
{{Question for Czoklet:
Will that policy solely benefit the Whites? It's an Administrative policy, but it benefits the Blues, who are both traders and guilders. }}
{{ In response to queries:
Mongolians taste like Mongolian Beef, duh.
Naval men taste like salt jerky
Aztecs taste spicy
Babies taste like candy
Italians taste like pasta }}
"It is important to remember that while we may redirect ourselves from colonization in the short term, we can switch back to a more colonial-friendly orientation once the crisis has passed. It is not so much that colonization is bad, more that there is an opportunity cost involved. If we maintain a colonial focus, we must leave out improvements to the navy and Imperial Finances. Let it be known that as Leader of the Blue Demes, if an opportunity arises to further the cause of exploration and colonization, we shall seize it."
Colombo then turns to the other Senators.
"It appears we are at an impasse. Nikephorus supports Duilius, whilst Absalon and Dooley support me for Speaker. Let it be known that I am not an unreasonable man. I am willing to negotiate if need be. Are there any of my proposed policies that Duilius and Nikephorus would like to see changed, and by my doing so, cease support for another leader?
Here they are in totality"
Deme Policies:
We must implement cost saving techniques in the navy. {{-10% Naval Maintenance, 5 Points }}
We must improve the efficiency of our trade. {{ +15% Trade efficiency, 15 points }}
We must increase the durability of our ships {{ +10% ship durability 5 points}}
Resolutions:
#1: Administrative Focus shall not be implemented
#2: All Imperial ships save for transport ships and trade ships are to be mothballed
#3: Tariffs are to be raised as a one-time measure
#4: The Jews are to be left alone, not stripped of property
#5: Privateers shall be enlisted
#6: Lands of the Holy Church shall be expropriated to the Imperium
Policies:
"Lex forveteur Production Commercia" shall be enacted
{{Question for Czoklet:
Will that policy solely benefit the Whites? It's an Administrative policy, but it benefits the Blues, who are both traders and guilders. }}
{{ In response to queries:
Mongolians taste like Mongolian Beef, duh.
Naval men taste like salt jerky
Aztecs taste spicy
Babies taste like candy
Italians taste like pasta }}
Senator Duilius Arrius:
"I still wish to hear from our friend before we leave here today, but I will make things simple. Senator Colombo, if you give me your word that you will not make an alliance with the White Demes, I will support you as our Speaker. Work with the Reds and the unaffiliated, but do not listen to the fools who hold the Church above the Augustus and the royal family."
"I still wish to hear from our friend before we leave here today, but I will make things simple. Senator Colombo, if you give me your word that you will not make an alliance with the White Demes, I will support you as our Speaker. Work with the Reds and the unaffiliated, but do not listen to the fools who hold the Church above the Augustus and the royal family."