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Ah, another wonderful round of electioneering!

I can't expect anything but a Whig majority, so I'm mainly curious who will join them in government. Looking forward to how it turns out!
 
God, you made the Whigs sound so nice and the Tories so boring. Preference, perhaps? :p

I can't be blamed if you feel that way! After all, all I've done is transplant our own history into the game's circumstances. The Tories around this period were, honestly, dull. Aside from Dizzy and, to a certain extent, Derby himself, there few experienced ministers within the party and even fewer talented ones.

Preference may come into it, but God knows the Tories don't make it easy for me to make them sound exciting. :p

I still hope you're not favoring the whiggies with IG party loyalty support too much, because I anticipate their eventual burning come the 20th century.

I never really have been. Though, as I believe I noted a few pages ago, the British electorate during the time was naturally liberal, and this is reflected in game. The Tories will come back in a pretty big way in the not-too-distant future, though. I will say that.

Ah, another wonderful round of electioneering!

I can't expect anything but a Whig majority, so I'm mainly curious who will join them in government. Looking forward to how it turns out!

Thanks Scrap! The manifestos can be rather tedious to write sometimes, so I thought I'd change them up slightly and allow myself the chance to go into a bit more historical detail rather than simply churning out party slogans. I'm glad to hear you're enjoying things so far. :)

As for the Whigs, whilst I obviously can't possibly comment on the outcome of the election, the hints for who will join whom are all to be found in the update. ;)



Thank you both for your comments so far. As ever, they are much appreciated. I have no idea when I'll be able to get the campaigns done, but hopefully you won't have too long a wait before the next government is formed. Having played the game up to just before the late Victorian period, I'm pretty eager to get everything covered in a timely fashion, other unforeseen commitments notwithstanding. Hopefully I'll avoid stretching four years over four months this year.
 
because I anticipate their eventual burning come the 20th century.

Or earlier...

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I must say Densley, one has to question what those mapmakers were thinking: making a map of Europe post-Polish Crisis and not bothering to label Poland! tsk tsk :p
 
Good ol' Joe?
 
Or earlier...

Naturally. The Whigs still being around by the 20th century would be very odd indeed, after all.

I must say Densley, one has to question what those mapmakers were thinking: making a map of Europe post-Polish Crisis and not bothering to label Poland! tsk tsk :p

Perhaps they didn't wish to insult the intelligence of their patrons? :p

Good ol' Joe?

Best Chamberlain.

The competition is hardly fierce, it must be said.
 
Naturally. The Whigs still being around by the 20th century would be very odd indeed, after all.

I give them two years tops.

Perhaps they didn't wish to insult the intelligence of their patrons? :p

Lest they get Prussia confused with Russia perhaps? :p

The competition is hardly fierce, it must be said.

Austen is almost criminally underrated, it has to be said. Something which one hopes will be rectified in future updates. :)
 
I give them two years tops.

You and your prophecies of doom...

Lest they get Prussia confused with Russia perhaps? :p

An easy mistake. :p

Austen is almost criminally underrated, it has to be said. Something which one hopes will be rectified in future updates. :)

The fact that he remains the only person since Elizabethan times to have been made a Knight of the Garter and not subsequently raised to the peerage certainly gives weight to this idea. Naturally, all deserving Chamberlains will be getting their due recognisiton in the future. :)
 
Densely, I'm commissioning at least one reference to Lord Salisbury. Its his first year in Parliament and he needs a little support.

Salisbury > every other Tory leader ever
 
Densely, I'm commissioning at least one reference to Lord Salisbury. Its his first year in Parliament and he needs a little support.

Didn't he enter the Commons in '53?

Salisbury > every other Tory leader ever

Christ, no! Disraeli, Peel, Wellington and Churchill are patently more great. Even Canning would get my vote over Salisbury, and he was only PM for 119 days!

He was elected unopposed, so he'd make for a pretty boring constituency result.

Stamford is the dullest constituency in England during this time period, it would seem.

You stare into the very eyes of God!

All I get is God knows...
 
Didn't he enter the Commons in '53?

Yes, but this technically would be his first year in parliament as an MP elected at a General Election.

Christ, no! Disraeli, Peel, Wellington and Churchill are patently more great. Even Canning would get my vote over Salisbury, and he was only PM for 119 days!

As a good rule of thumb: if your Colonial Secretary is infinitely more awesome than you are then you aren't the most awesome Tory leader ever.
 
Disraeli; a flawed politician who couldn't even beat little ol' Gladstone. His redeeming positions were that of his sporadic times in leadership, but even those were marred by some tricky little foreign affairs errors. And a convert: -2 points.
Peel: Liberal.
Wellington: Did nothing useful while in office, all two years of them. Also voted against Jews. -2 points.
Churchill: On par with Salisbury. Although he did let that slimy little Attlee into office.

Now, Salisbury led the Tories for a fine 14-years. He operated with some proper pragmatism, and ruled for the most benevolent aristocracy. Apex of Brittania.
 
Another good update Densley. I am enjoying this depth of writing. As always I'm unsure of who to cast my vote for - I think it might be Whig...

I don't remember it being mentioned earlier, are the borders of Poland slightly different from what I remember? It seems to have more territory in the east than usual.

Churchill: On par with Salisbury. Although he did let that slimy little Attlee into office.

U wot m8? You mean one of the most underrated PM's ever?
 
Another good update Densley. I am enjoying this depth of writing. As always I'm unsure of who to cast my vote for - I think it might be Whig...

I don't remember it being mentioned earlier, are the borders of Poland slightly different from what I remember? It seems to have more territory in the east than usual.

Thanks The B! Poland may indeed look a bit different (I was certainly intrigued by its shape when it did form,) though it only received all of its cores held by Russia, so that could account for it. Obviously, there are still those in the west that are held by Prussia, so that may account for the apparent unevenness between the east and the west.

U wot m8? You mean one of the most underrated PM's ever?

For my money, Major Attlee is one of the best post-war PMs we've had. If not the best.

= welfare state. Much socialist evil.

The B, meet King. He's the guy who took it literally when someone told him that the Tories are always right. :p
 
U wot m8? You mean one of the most underrated PM's ever?

I'd also put the anti-Mossadegh coup and his increasingly anachronistic colonial attitude as far larger marks against him. The man would've been a good MP in the 19th century (I mean these would still be marks against him but he'd stand out far less), but he was a damn artifact in the post WW2 era.

Not to mention him starting the meme that social welfare somehow requires a Gestapo.

(I'm also an Attlee fan though I know less about post-War Britain than I should [or Britain in general, most of what I know has to do with the argument over whether Britain was the first industrial state])