Confirmed HoI 4 - Formable nations don't have cores on new states [1.11.2] [7844]

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Description of issue
Formable nations don't have cores on new states [1.11.2] [7844]

Game Version
1.11.2

Enabled DLC
All

Do you have mods enabled?
No (Technically I have one, the State Transfer Tool, which I used to give myself the required territory to form these nations. It should not affect anything)

Description
Formable nations that were introduced before recent patches that added new states haven't had their cores updated. Full list of formable nations that are missing cores and the relevant state IDs. If the in-game name and file name of the state are different, both are provided:

Roman Empire:
From "Realize Roman Ambitions"
Zara/Dalmatia (163)
Istanbul (797)
Amasya (798)
Hatay (799)
Van (800)
Kosovo (802)
Southern Serbia (803)
Herzegovina (804)
Pyrénées-Atlantiques (806)

European Union
From "Realize European Unity"
Pyrénées-Atlantiques (806)

Austria-Hungary
From "Restore the Austro-Hungarian Empire"
Herzegovina (804)

Al-Andalus
From "Restore Al-Andalus"
Servilla (169) gets a core as it should, but isn't required to form Al-Andalus. I suspect this is an error, since all of the states surrounding it are required to form Al-Andalus.

From "Recreate the Umayyad Caliphate"
Aden/Arabian UK 2 (659)
Qatar (765)
Hatay (799)

From "Northern Expansion"
Van (800)
Chenchyna-Ingushetia (821)
Abkhazia (826)
Kabardino-Balkaria (827)
North Ossetia (828)

Arabia
From "Unite Arabia"
Yemen (293)
Oman (294)
Qatar (765)
Sidi Ifni (783)
Hatay (799)

Byzantine Empire
From "Restore Byzantium" (NOTE: This decision is only available for people who DON'T own Battle For the Bosporus. People who own Battle For the Bosporus instead get the decision "Revive Byzantium", which DOES provide the correct cores.
Istanbul (797)
Amasya (798)
Van (800)

Macedonian Empire
From "Honor the Legacy of the Argeads"
Istanbul (797)
Amasya (798)
Hatay (799)
Van (800)

Persian Empire
From "Recreate the Persian Empire"
Istanbul (797)
Amasya (798)
Hatay (799)
Van (800)

Dominion of North America
Cores are not given on Attu Island (650) or Puerto Rico (686) unless the US has cored them though their decisions.

Additionally, and I'm not sure if it was intentional, but it seems weird that Transcaucasia doesn't require/core Stavropol (235), even though it gets cores on all of the surrounding states.

I'm not sure what to do for the screenshots, so I've just decided to upload every state that should get cored by forming Rome, but doesn't.

You'll notice in the screenshots that I've used a mod (State Transfer Tool) to give myself the required territory to form these nations. It shouldn't have any affect on the outcome and these issues should still occur in the base game.

Steps to Reproduce
All of these nations are formed from the Decisions tab upon obtaining the required territory. I did use a mod (State Transfer Tool) to give myself the required territory to form these nations, but it should not affect anything.

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And now with all the new African and Arabian new states added in the 1.12 patch, maybe it's worse...
Also, there are some things that makes no sense, like Gibraltar being cored in the Macedonian and Persian Empires, or East Timor non being cored in the Greater Indonesian Confederacy.
 
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Pan-Slavic Union formable by Russia is missing a core on Gdynia (807). Also the name has a typo still since release. The 'S' in 'Pan-slavic' isn't capitalized as it should be.
 
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Watched.

Also i've recreated the thread on Suggestions.
 
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Hi all,

Thanks for the thread - wanted to let you know the list of missing cores has been added to our bug database, so the dev team will look into it.

Cheers!
 
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Hi all,

Thanks for the thread - wanted to let you know the list of missing cores has been added to our bug database, so the dev team will look into it.

Cheers!
Thanks for look into it. Here you have a exhaustive list of every missing core in formable nations, with maps and state IDs:
Just a little request: Greater Indonesian Confederacy should include East Timor, becausr its a reclamation of Indonesian nationalists:
 
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Hi all,

Thanks for the thread - wanted to let you know the list of missing cores has been added to our bug database, so the dev team will look into it.

Cheers!
Finally!!!
Just a little request: Greater Indonesian Confederacy should include East Timor, becausr its a reclamation of Indonesian nationalists:
Also for that suggestion, Nusantara is more appropriate anyway. You can check the SFNR 2.0 thread here for the complete compilation outside the wiki. Arabia dearly needs a massive rework here since Sykes-Picot only discusses the Arabian Peninsula and Mesopotamia, not faraway places like Morocco.

 
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Hi all,

Thanks for the thread - wanted to let you know the list of missing cores has been added to our bug database, so the dev team will look into it.

Cheers!
Can you please consider fixing Turan?

Also Ottomans:
a. "Zara" state is cored with "Bosnia" decision but not included in tooltip
b. Ottomans can't core new states of western Yugoslavia (maybe design idk)
c. "Lasha" decision should be renamed to "Lahsa"
d. "Halep" decision says it cores all French states but it doesn't core Lebanon, it possibly should?
e. "Egypt" decision cannot core Cairo state (maybe design idk)
f. "Jeddah, Habesh and Yemen" -> This doesn't core Habeş region which is Eritrea, so it possibly should, Habeş historically included some parts of Africa
Further suggestions:
g. Ottomans should be able to core Crimea through new decision
h. Ottomans should get claims over Eritrea and Djibouti through "Jeddah, Habesh and Yemen" decision
 
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