Conclave Dev Diary #4 It's Coming!

[Riekopo]

Seems great except for infamy which I'm very concerned about.

 

[nyah]

Seems great except for infamy which I'm very concerned about.

Infamy. Infamy? They've all got it....

 

[jaydee2k]

Infamy is the reason i will stick with 2.4.5 forever...!

 

[Voy]

i know its sarcasm but its probably gonna be the only compliemnt i get alll day so thank you

You ought to do something better more productive with your life than to make fun of celebrities for petty things such as appearance. Its kinda inappropriate and a waste of time. Also another compliment: you write pleasantly.

 

[Birken]

Any uodates to the converter? I have no specific wishes, just curious.

I think groogy made those for the 2.5.1 patch and not the 2.5 Conclave. You'll get those patchnotes in due time.

Awesome changes !


Surprisingly enough, this one is probably the one I'm the most excited about. It will add to de immersion.
But... Does that mean that you actually recorded screams of dying babies ? I know it's CK2, but...

Still, unless I'm mistaken, I don't see a simple addition that I (and others) have been advocating for years, a button to scroll through the cultural first names in the "name your child" event window, much like you can when creating a character in the ruler designer.
Will we ever get this ? I like to give culture-relevant names to my children, again for immersion pruposes, and it's annoying to have to use the "find charater" window in search for a good name.

You do know that we haven't recorded someone ACTUALLY dying for the death sounds of adult characters, or did you feel that that was an ok loss of human lives?

The name suggestion isn't bad, I'll put in our suggestion list and we'll see what happens in the future.


Someone wrote asking about ai seduction. There was script that was supposed to reduce how often the ai would pick the player's spouse or concubine, but it never fired since it had to be both spouse and concubine at the same time.

 

[shiro the bushi]

You ought to do something better more productive with your life than to make fun of celebrities for petty things such as appearance. Its kinda inappropriate and a waste of time. Also another compliment: you write pleasantly.

well thank you, but im a callous, cynic of a man who has to do an exam and wait forever for Conclave to down load so i may not be at my nicest.

 

[Aardvark Bellay]

So do we now lose a personal claim CB again when we lose the war for it ?

I had asked here and there before and posted a bug report, but i'm not sure if it might actually be WAD ?
Didn't see anything in the patch notes.



Couldn't resist to ask, as i find that rather important.
...Of course everything i ask is important.

 

[Inochi]

Straightened-up decadent characters will now stay straight for at least ten years in most circumstances.

Straightened up family members will now restrain themselves from becoming decadent again within 5-years.

It's nearly the same thing, but I take it this means they stay "at least" 5 years sober and could last up to 10 years. That is nice. Finally this nasty bug is fixed... damn piety leeches.

Now all we need is a fix to the seduction kafir event and maybe a way to not lose the chance to interact with decadent members just because the ruler died inbetween or another dynasty member messed it up even though YOU are the head.

 

[Ispil]

Any chance of getting clarification on what this "is_voter" stuff going on with titles? Does it have to do with elective succession? Does it imply that you can restrict an elective title to only getting votes from the holders of particular duchies and/or kingdoms? Is it dynamic?

 

[Jorlem]

@Birken
Are there scripting commands for adding or removing Infamy? These are the only times the word Infamy appears in the changelog:

- Added Infamy system.
- Coalitions can be formed against high infamy realms

This is rather important to being able to mod the infamy system, I'd think.

 

[RhaegarTelcontarTargaryen]

Previously we’ve talked about the new Viking Metal music dlc and how awesome it is and today I’m proud to give you the epic cover art made by @Sideburnout in all it’s glory.

Wait.. first Sabaton, now this? I am so glad you guys take your Swedish metal seriously <3 No in all honesty, I turn off music in game, cause all the time I am listening to stuff like Amon Amarth, Sabaton, Wintersun, Folkearth, etc... so this just makes me insanely happy.

 

[Es57]

You do know that we haven't recorded someone ACTUALLY dying for the death sounds of adult characters, or did you feel that that was an ok loss of human lives?

Of course not, but it is certainly easier to ask an adult male to fake a dying breath than a young infant...

 

[Llyw olaf]

I think groogy made those for the 2.5.1 patch and not the 2.5 Conclave. You'll get those patchnotes in due time.

Someone wrote asking about ai seduction. There was script that was supposed to reduce how often the ai would pick the player's spouse or concubine, but it never fired since it had to be both spouse and concubine at the same time.

So the seduction fix is only a specific privilege for the player? it will continue as before for the A.I? that's a shame and rather disappointing.
I'm not a fan of the player having different rules and benefits compared to the A.I. I know it's more work but I would've much preferred if Paradox had instead used some of the proposed ideas suggested on the forum over the last months on how to improve seduction, rather than going with the easy option of just making the player a special exception.

I take it that daughters and sisters will continue to catch lover's pox as often as usual, especially if married in a A.I court? I feel that the proposed suggestions on focusing more on traits, opinion, rejection, family, rank, rewards and consequences would be much more interesting, and maybe create unique stories, rather than just reducing seduction's affect on the player's spouse or concubine.

 

[durbal]

Prima Noctae was a lie... it never existed in the middle ages. The only exemples for something like this were from a small swiss village... one exemple don't make it the rule...

The medieval marriage fine or merchet has been interpreted as a payment for the droit de seigneur to be waived.[2]

The supposed right was abolished by Ferdinand II of Aragon in Article 9 the "Sentencia Arbitral de Guadalupe" of 1486.[5]

In 1527, Scottish historian Hector Boece wrote that the right had existed in Scotland until abolished by Malcolm III.[6] William Blackstone mentioned the custom in hisCommentaries on the Laws of England (1765-1769), echoing Boece's claim.[7]

The right was mentioned in 1556 in the Recueil d'arrêts notables des cours souveraines de France of French lawyer and author Jean Papon (1505–1590).[8] Voltaire mentioned the practice in his Dictionnaire philosophique, published in 1764.[9]

 

[dcd111]

Of course not, but it is certainly easier to ask an adult male to fake a dying breath than a young infant...

I'm not sure about that, anyone who has had children knows that babies are quite capable of screaming exactly as if they were dying, typically just as their parents are starting to doze off. If only I had recorded the baby monitor back then, I could have sold the sound files to Paradox and saved them the trouble of hiring actors.

 

[Birken]

@Birken
Are there scripting commands for adding or removing Infamy? These are the only times the word Infamy appears in the changelog:



This is rather important to being able to mod the infamy system, I'd think.

There's an effect called change_infamy, it won't be in the game until 2.5.2 though. Infamy gain and thresholds are controlled from defines though, so there's some control in 2.5.1
2.5.2 also features infamy scaling based on the cb used.

 

[riadach]

- Some Celtish titles now properly start with Tanistry Succession law when they are scripted to start with it.

Celtish?

Are these Irish titles in all start dates?

 

[durbal]

Looking forward to seeing what the changes to Nomadic realms will do in conjunction with the new Conclave stuff. (More intra-tribal warfare!)

 

[Jorlem]

There's an effect called change_infamy, it won't be in the game until 2.5.2 though. Infamy gain and thresholds are controlled from defines though, so there's some control in 2.5.1
2.5.2 also features infamy scaling based on the cb used.

Looking forward to change_infamy, then. In my trait mod, I'm hoping to have a new CB be able to add to Infamy on both war declaration, and on victory, so I'm hoping that will be doable at some point.

 

[durbal]

One more thing in case you guys missed it: as a Jewish ruler, when building the Third Temple if the ruler dies during the four years it's being built then the event chain dies and the temple can never be built. Please fix this...it's a very common issue and incredibly annoying to take down the Abbablob and have it come to naught.