Melting pots questions

[Alvis14]

Hey all!

I have been wondering since quite a while now how melting pots work. (and tho, I am a quite early CKII player, something like June 2012)

I know there's the Norman culture for early start dates, even tho I have never seen it in game.
What are the other, how do they work exactly ?

And last question, how does the Norse culture split work? I can't recall seeing it more than once.

Thanks for the reply(ies)

 

[Unready]

https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Culture#Melting_pots

 

[Concrete]

Uh yeah that link will answer all of your questions.

Typically it's the Charlemagne starting cultures warping into the cultures we know today, and Norse->Norman->English.

Norse culture split happens automatically unless multiple kingdoms are united.

 

[Leyrann]

What's not really clear to me from the article is what causes melting pots to occur. How, for example, can I guarantee Dutch culture appears if I play as count or duke in the area?

 

[Concrete]

They are all supposed to be inevitable. Visigothic is not supposed to survive the game, etc.
So yes you can guarantee a change into Dutch if you're there. But it should happen anyway(though the success of German or French rulers nearby may mean that only few Dutch provinces survive after converting.)
The only thing that player input is really necessary for is resisting the melting pots.

 

[WJS]

What's not really clear to me from the article is what causes melting pots to occur. How, for example, can I guarantee Dutch culture appears if I play as count or duke in the area?

To make Dutch culture appear, play in the duchies of Gelre, Holland, Flanders, and/or Brabant, and have Frankish, Saxon, or Frisian culture. It will eventually flip to Dutch. You can speed up the process once it starts by changing your own culture to Dutch once you can.

I will note that sometimes the flips get a bit strange. Recently, I had a game as a vassal of the William the Conqueror in England. I changed my culture to Norman to match my liege. Normally, Anglo-Saxon provinces held by a Norman ruler will flip to English. However, since I and my liege stayed Norman, we watched many of the provinces drift to Norman instead. Eventually, even the English provinces started turning Norman. Now England, Wales, Ireland, and the north of France are all Norman, and Norman culture is here to stay.

 

[mwc12]

I am trying to get norman, and am currently the norse king of france, owning only paris. Paris just got randomly flipped to norse, does that ruin the event?

 

[Caeserion]

I am trying to get norman, and am currently the norse king of france, owning only paris. Paris just got randomly flipped to norse, does that ruin the event?

Yeah

 

[mwc12]

Thanks for the info! I wish the peasants hadn't been so "civilized".