Developer Diary 2 – The Map

[ashandresash]

Map is really brilliant! At least, this little point of Europe

And philosophy is fair for me: each game has it point. Vicky2 needs more 'political' provinces (looking more for culture, economy...) than HoI3, where terrain should be the main factor.

So congratulations (and CLIO people too).

Finally, how many provinces and states are you thinking about?

EDIT: emu'd

 

[unmerged(67185)]

What does the different colours of the small unit shield mean, attrition?

Probably yes.

 

[unmerged(71032)]

I sure like how you tackled the map problem.
CLIO is definitely a good starting point for a Vicky map. and the detail looks superb. from the looks of it, the most realistic map to date.

Reminds me the way HoI2 tackled with commanders/ministers problem, simply using the modding project that was going around in HoI1 to compile ultimate collection of those.

CLIO project is the best equivalent of that - throughly researched and adjusted couple of times with adjustments often coming from people with detailed knowledge about the areas. Mistakes in province names and positioning, compared to the usual scale of the problem in Paradox games, should be minimal and caused more by coder mistakes, then by poor research.

 

[Karri]

Looks nice. I forgive you for last weeks diary. The province borders are not final I assume?

 

[Autonomous]

Link to CLIO thread here. CLIO's Iron Heart (HOI3 spin off) here.

Those terrain textures are so pretty. It's not going to make me use the terrain map, of course, but I'll really, really want to.

Is it exactly the same layout as CLIO? Or are you just using it as a jumping off point?

 

[Jawa]

That is one good looking map! I really like the look of the fields.

Will fields increasingly cover provinces as they are developed?

Will provinces that receive huge amounts of immigrants have growing urban areas shown?

Will railroads and industry be as naturalistically depicted as the fields?

 

[RedRalphWiggum]

Actually, having seen this, I think Vicky2 may be the first ever PI game where I do use the terrain map with any regularity.

 

[King]

Looks nice. I forgive you for last weeks diary. The province borders are not final I assume?

99.99% final

 

[unmerged(59881)]

Nice looking map, well done!
Are there two different types of borders? A thick one and a thin one? I'm pretty sure they are not national borders. So, can I assume there are several provinces combined in a region?

 

[Johan]

Nice looking map, well done!
Are there two different types of borders? A thick one and a thin one? I'm pretty sure they are not national borders. So, can I assume there are several provinces combined in a region?

Yeah.. state and province borders, same concept as in hoi3.

 

[Xz2]

That is one good looking map! I really like the look of the fields.

Will fields increasingly cover provinces as they are developed?

Will provinces that receive huge amounts of immigrants have growing urban areas shown?

Will railroads and industry be as naturalistically depicted as the fields?

i dont think so, but one can hope

 

[King]

Nice looking map, well done!
Are there two different types of borders? A thick one and a thin one? I'm pretty sure they are not national borders. So, can I assume there are several provinces combined in a region?

states and provinces are the two borders you can see.

 

[Peekee]

Does the different map than HoI3 mean that an official save game converter from Vicky 2 to HoI3 is now impossible?

 

[unmerged(59881)]

Yeah.. state and province borders, same concept as in hoi3.

Thanks for the answer. Don't have HOI3 (yet), wrong period, but I'm definitely looking forward to Vicky2

 

[RedRalphWiggum]

Will railroads and industry be as naturalistically depicted as the fields?

I think it would be really really cool if you could see railways snaking through a province on terrain map.

Will having far less provinces than HoI3 mean a comparative performance boost?

 

[Sarmatia1871]

Ooooooohhhh, pretty!

I especially like the fields.

 

[Dietmar1982]

Link to CLIO thread here. CLIO's Iron Heart (HOI3 spin off) here.

Those terrain textures are so pretty. It's not going to make me use the terrain map, of course, but I'll really, really want to.

Is it exactly the same layout as CLIO? Or are you just using it as a jumping off point?

If you compare the two, it seems they are pretty close, at least for this small part of the map.
But I'm sure there are small variations

Vicky 2
CLIO

 

[Karri]

99.99% final

I ment the lines actually; width, color and such. It's not hard to spot where one province ends and another one starts but I still had to look for a bit.

 

[King]

Does the different map than HoI3 mean that an official save game converter from Vicky 2 to HoI3 is now impossible?

No, Revolutions and HoI2 had different maps but we managed to work something out.

 

[King]

I ment the lines actually; width, color and such. It's not hard to spot where one province ends and another one starts but I still had to look for a bit.

those aren't final.