Changing techgroups conversion
Hi human people,
Last day I saw the questions that Grifen88 make about techgroups and I have to say that I was thinking on techgroups for a while. I think we're not making these properly. First of all we must ask to ourselves is why appeared those techgroups? On that times kings, dukes... They haven't all the power, there was another powerfull thing: the religion. It was the religion which prime the society with different ideas or attitudes. As I told some members of the devTeam the true difference in those times betwen west europe, east and muslims wasn't which level they start with but what religion they had.
In europe, monasteries kept the knowledge inside them, but by the time in the west, monks start releasing that knowledge and that never hapend in the east, why? Because in west europe we where Catholic and in east europe where Othodox. Yes, that means that Catholics were more openminded than Orthodox. An example is the Austria-Hungary Empire (I know, is in another part of the history. It's only an example). There were two different zones in the Empire, Austria and Hungary? No, Catholic and Orthodox governors was the true difference. Western tech was the tech develop in the new Kingdoms appeared with the fall of the Western Roman Empire, all of them influenced by the Catholic Church. On the other side we have the rise of the
Eastern Roman Empire Byzantine Empire, Orthodox. Both zones were influenced by their religion even more than by their kings and emperors.
With muslims the problem was different, they were open minded at the begining of the Medieval period, thats why they had a powerfull thech. But by the time they became close minded and... you can see how they are today.
So different techgroups appeared because of religions and, of course, culture (very influenced by religion). I think that this background is important to be implemented. Religion was another way to govern people in those times, and you could try many things to transform your nation into a culture focus, but if church says no, it was no. There are many Kings executed because of their eretic ideas, the Inquisition... An example could be Spain (or Castile and Aragon). There were three cultures in the Kingdom, our technology was incredible but the pope says we must to expel (at the begining) and kill (at the end, remember Torquemada) all infidels... As a result we are western tech group in EU3.
I think things must be simplified, so this is my proposal:
If EU3 religion = catholic --> techgroup = western (non catholic must to westernize)
If EU3 religion = orthodox --> techgroup = eastern
If EU3 religion = sunni { #Two options
if high tech level --> techgroup = ottoman #things like to be empire or big country could be considered
else --> techgroup = muslim
}
If EU3 religion = shiite --> techgroup = muslim #could be considered ottoman group but with higher requirements than sunni (sunni are more openminded than shiite)
If EU3 religion =shamanism--> techgroup = nomads
Despite of the religion some kind of government mus become nomads. Note that I said "kind of government", if someone civiliced the Golden Orde they wouldn't be nomads.
Other countries that not appear in CK2 will be keep with the tech group they had in EU3 (chinese, indian, sub-saharan, nomads and new world techgroups). In case of the aztec show up I think they couldn't be considered new world, they must be western or eastern (I don't know very well wich decide).
What is your opinion humans?