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Corsini 1864-1866: The War of Italian Independence
It was May, 1864, before Vittorio Emanuele had stamped out the remnants of the Roman revolutionary government. As Sardinia-Piedmont largely retaken, the King called snap elections and a new parliament was hastily assembled in Turin. With virtually the entire Sardinian political elite dead, there were no parties to speak of, nor, for that matter, adequate leadership in the chamber. Emanuele named Don Corsini, the Tuscan Prime Minister, as his own Prime Minister in late May. The first act of the Parliament was declare Sardinia-Piedmont unified with Italy and unanimously name Vittorio Emanuele the King of Italy, and themselves the Italian Parliament. After that, they passed a flurry of legislation annulling, repealing, and denouncing any acts of the Roman government.
The Italian Parliament would pass a number of acts in 1864, but they largely served as a rubber stamp for the Corsini government. The most significant act was the budget, which maximized military expenditure in preparation for an attack on Austria - which everyone new viewed as inevitable. Vittorio Emanuele declared on Austria in June, with the intention of liberating Lombardy from the Osterreich's dictatorial control. The news sent surges of pan-nationalistic fervor through the newly unified country, and hundreds of thousands of volunteers and conscripts would flood to the front lines in the ensuing mobilization. Most came from the south, where Garibaldi made good on his promise to actively recruit new troops for the Italian cause.
1. Italian soldiers campaigning
As the last living Sardinian general, Napoleone d'Auria was named commander of the invasion force. Much of the Turinese military establishment was dead, necessitating the introduction of central Italian generals (and in some cases volunteers) to command the various Italian forces. Italian forces crossed into Lombardy in June. The United Kingdom, Austria's ally in the Albanian War, declared war on Italy shortly thereafter, as did Austria's central German allies.[1]
With Austria's forces heavily engaged against the French, Russians, and North Germans, central German troops were left to protect Lombardy. D'Auria was initially caught by surprise when a large Bavarian force marched through Padua, around the right of his lines, and briefly occupied Modena before it was surrounded, cut off, and destroyed. Central German resistance was initially fierce but ultimately futile. The Italian military machine was working better than any had anticipated. Volunteers were arriving from the south and central states en masse. In the North, the government used its power under the Economy and Government Act to temporarily nationalize most industry and conscript factory workers. With thousands of freshly mobilized soldiers reaching the front every day, Italy had vast numerical superiority. By the year's end, Italy had occupied Lombardy. Vittorio Emanuele toured Milan, where he was greeted by cheering crowds.
2. The King enters Milan
In December, a broken Austria would reach a peace treaty with the other powers, ceding East Galicia to Russia and abandoning its ambitions on Albania.[2] However, Italy was not included in the peace talks. The Royal Navy, freed from its commitments in the channel, arrived to blockade Italy - though the Italian navy was relatively successful launching harrassing attacks against the blockade forces. The Central German troops had been pushed back as far as Munich in the north and Trieste in the East; Venice fell early in the new, fueling speculation that Emanuele would demand Venice in addition to Lombardy.
Austria's own forces had been almost entirely destroyed by the war, meaning much of the fighting was left to central German states and British expeditionary forces (returning from the front). The British launched a ferocious attack against Italian positions in Tirol but were defeated - the collapse of British lines left little resistance to the Italian advance. By mid-1865, Italy would have advanced almost as far as Vienna, whose capture would surely have forced a treaty in Italy's favor. The British, however, had anticipated this - in fact, they had counted on it.
3. Italian forces fighting in Austria
In the fall of 1865, a huge British army - joined by some central German elements - emerged from France and marched into Nice, quickly seizing the city. At the same time, the Royal Navy landed 50,000 soldiers in Naples. Italy was caught off guard, with many Italians crying foul at the French perfidy and expressing utter bafflement at the British commitment to the war. D'Auria was forced to stop just short of Vienna. He turned his forces around and conducted a lengthy forced march back to Turin, arriving in time to save the city. He rebuffed the British army (which was more than a hundred thousand soldiers), pushing them back into France in early winter.
As 1866 dawned, British and Italian diplomats met in Paris to discuss a truce. Britain held Nice and parts of Naples - from which they would not be trivially dislodged - while Italy held a large swathe of Austria, cutting almost all the way to Vienna. It was eventually agreed that Italy would be ceded Lombardy, but Venice would remain in Austrian hands. Nevertheless, the War - which became known as the War of Italian Independence, was hailed at a great success at home, with celebration and parades in the streets of Italy's cities.
4. Rejoicing in the streets
For Austria, the war was disastrous. Their defeats in both the Albanian War and the Italian War of Independence had made them the laughingstock of Europe; they had not even been able to defend themselves without considerable British aid.[3] Bismarck also got his wish, permanently ending German dualism as it dawned on the Central German states that Austria could not protect them; in fact, Austria had relied on them to do most of the fighting. They fell under North German influence. Austria fell from the ranks of the Great Powers. Italy replaced it.
[1]Bavaria, Wurttemburg, and Baden had been allied with Austria but neutral in the Albanian War.
[2]France performed abysmally in the war, almost embarrassingly badly. This was in part due to its inability to supply its soldiers.
[3]Possibly Britain fought so hard to defend Austria because it was trying to establish influence over Austria.
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((I dont remember CPA being repealed..
((Doesn't really matter in a game where aristocrats and militarists can introduce legislation through friends in the chamber, and where parties even in prussian constitutionalism can't be banned without further counter-reform. Nothing is there to prevent an openly republican party from competing in elections and voting/introducing legislation in the chamber.))
((Except for the fact that it is explicitly banned by the CPA.))
((Again, TH3 has previously stated you can't ban parties without counter-reforming even from the original state of reforms the game started at. You want to pass that counter-reform and take that militancy hit, that's up to you. The CPA is essentially flavor text in which a republican character would have friends elected as independents, after the Republican Party refused to take their seats/were not allowed to take their seats won in the election, introduce their legislation in the chamber.))
((Individuals could still be put in prison for advocating republicanism. There's still the forementioned law we passed quite a long while ago and the Romans tried to revoke. Can't change that.))
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((Yeah, and if you want to go back to that kind of play, one player stealing another player's PP with no mechanical justification unlike say catching Demagogues, we can go back to fighting about that all the time. That's fine by me. I mean when you think about it, if you get to just make up that Ministers of Justice can arrest seditious characters, what is stopping the other players from just killing off their imprisoned characters and making near identical copies with no imprisonment PP penalty faster than you can arrest them?
You don't get to bully around people in this game anymore. I'm going to run as a republican, vote as a republican, openly be a republican. Imprison my character and I'll make a new republican. Kill that one and I'll make another. This game should be an election game, not a "whoever has the government gets to kill everyone who disagrees with them" game.
People, who wanted to play republican or socialist characters or anarcholiberals, have not done so because players like you have intimidated them and made them think they'd lose their PP, the way you stole Dadarian's PP completely unjustifiably. I'm ending that. I'm standing up to you.))
You don't get to bully around people in this game anymore. I'm going to run as a republican, vote as a republican, openly be a republican. Imprison my character and I'll make a new republican. Kill that one and I'll make another. This game should be an election game, not a "whoever has the government gets to kill everyone who disagrees with them" game.
People, who wanted to play republican or socialist characters or anarcholiberals, have not done so because players like you have intimidated them and made them think they'd lose their PP, the way you stole Dadarian's PP completely unjustifiably. I'm ending that. I'm standing up to you.))
((Well, then I would just demand the laws to be applied to you. The recent events you now have an ahistorical paradise, where all ideologies are legit (an absurd idea for XIX century monarchy and not corresponding with our IG reality), and that IG legislation does not work now
I dont think that such stupid alterations should be made just for your comfort to play ignoring the IG situation))
((Those laws are made up by players, and have no PttP AAR rule impact. TH3 let you guys make up that you could arrest people and steal half their PP by putting them in prison, so why wouldn't he let me just replace any character you arrest with a non-arrested one? It's no more ahistorical than the entire Traditionalizi political machine and reactionary rule has been. It's no more crazy than how all your aristocratic families and reputations somehow managed to escape the revolution unharmed after more than half the players in this game basically have spent the whole waiting to use the revolution mechanics to fix the loopholes you guys have been using to steal people's PP.
You're done. The rest of us are going to start making up stuff as fast as you guys make up stuff. I'm not letting you tell me that I don't get to introduce legislation or get -50% pp in votes because I want to play an interesting character who has an ideology that existed in this period and often succeeded in overthrowing countries. You guys will keep making ahistorical aristocrats after every revolution, want to have a reactionary paradise ahistorically forever, so we can keep making revolutionaries faster than you can arrest them. What's fair for you to do is fair for us to do. ))
You're done. The rest of us are going to start making up stuff as fast as you guys make up stuff. I'm not letting you tell me that I don't get to introduce legislation or get -50% pp in votes because I want to play an interesting character who has an ideology that existed in this period and often succeeded in overthrowing countries. You guys will keep making ahistorical aristocrats after every revolution, want to have a reactionary paradise ahistorically forever, so we can keep making revolutionaries faster than you can arrest them. What's fair for you to do is fair for us to do. ))
((Yes. Its just us. Not like Russia, Germany, Austria, or 2/3rds of other nations scared the Republican-Socialists into underground submission during the 19th century.
Yep, just us. And yes, the whole reactionary thing was a real ahistorical mess. Especially when you consider that Russia, Germany and Austria...wait...))
((Please don't speak for me. I broke the law willingly and was arrested and served me time. I would like to rest in peas))
Name: Jean Hydra, born Jan del Idra, also known as John or Giovanni
Date of Birth: 1830
Place of Birth: Ticino, Switzerland
Nationality: Swiss Italian
Class: Politician
Biography: Having been a student in Geneva during the Jacobin uprising in Switzerland, swept up in the failed rebellion in the early 1850's, young Jan del Idra was a revolutionary even in the republican Swiss Confederation. This was in part due to being from the poorer Catholic side of the del Idra family, the other side being wealthy Swiss German Protestants. However, in his uncle Frederico in Sardinia-Piedmont Jan found a role model for himself among the Protestant del Idras.
Under his Anglophile uncle's patronage, he completed his studies of the law in Britain, and cut his teeth as a clerk for a prestigious London solicitor. Immigrating to France in 1861, he cemented his republican beliefs among the Paris intelligentsia and soon took the opportunity of the French war with Austria over Albania to follow the French bureaucracy into the Italian states. Working as a clerk for a French diplomat during the Roman Revolution and the Risorgimento, he was inspired by the humanistic and liberal ideals expressed by his uncle and the other Roman revolutionaries. Even more so, he was disgusted by how quickly even members of that same revolutionary council were quick to buy into reactionary propaganda and convince themselves of some fanciful moral failing.
The letter from Vittorio Emmanuelle, new King of Italy, to the Revolutionary Council; and Frederico's reply to the same; served as fuel for Jean's revolutionary fire as he entered Italian politics, joining the nascent Fratellanza Repubblicana.
Date of Birth: 1830
Place of Birth: Ticino, Switzerland
Nationality: Swiss Italian
Class: Politician
Biography: Having been a student in Geneva during the Jacobin uprising in Switzerland, swept up in the failed rebellion in the early 1850's, young Jan del Idra was a revolutionary even in the republican Swiss Confederation. This was in part due to being from the poorer Catholic side of the del Idra family, the other side being wealthy Swiss German Protestants. However, in his uncle Frederico in Sardinia-Piedmont Jan found a role model for himself among the Protestant del Idras.
Under his Anglophile uncle's patronage, he completed his studies of the law in Britain, and cut his teeth as a clerk for a prestigious London solicitor. Immigrating to France in 1861, he cemented his republican beliefs among the Paris intelligentsia and soon took the opportunity of the French war with Austria over Albania to follow the French bureaucracy into the Italian states. Working as a clerk for a French diplomat during the Roman Revolution and the Risorgimento, he was inspired by the humanistic and liberal ideals expressed by his uncle and the other Roman revolutionaries. Even more so, he was disgusted by how quickly even members of that same revolutionary council were quick to buy into reactionary propaganda and convince themselves of some fanciful moral failing.
The letter from Vittorio Emmanuelle, new King of Italy, to the Revolutionary Council; and Frederico's reply to the same; served as fuel for Jean's revolutionary fire as he entered Italian politics, joining the nascent Fratellanza Repubblicana.
((People who want to play illegal ideologies and commit illegal actions can do it just fine - by taking risks, spreading anonymous pamphlets and fighting for repeal of this laws in parliament. As real people in XIX did. Not whine and demand that IG reality and IC happenings should be changed in an absurd and ahistoric way just so that they could say and do anything they want, ruining the atmosphere of the time and any common sense
Really Boulangerie is the only person whom I see doing that. Say, Dadarian served his term with much dignity))
Really Boulangerie is the only person whom I see doing that. Say, Dadarian served his term with much dignity))
((Pamphleteers don't raise in game militancy, so you guys don't get to arrest them and steal their PP! If you want to keep being able to do that and have it be binding, every time some non-demagogue has a pamphlet it should raise militancy but it doesn't.
So your rules don't make any sense.
In real life, pamphleteers could be arrested. But they also raised militancy with their pamphlets. Which Dadarian's and Qwerty's and others didn't because they weren't demagogues.
So you have no leg to stand on. You guys have been cheating for too long, and if you can cheat, everyone can cheat. So more more prison penalties for anyone, as soon as they are imprisoned they should make new characters. You're done being the sole recipients of broken game loopholes.
Literally your cheating has been directed at players, intimidating them, rather than at the game. You are done.
I'm playing a politician, not a demagogue, so unless I am on the losing side of a revolution, you can't arrest me. And if you do cheat and say you are doing that, I'll cheat and say I have a new character with identical views who is not in prison.
Stand off.
This loophole needs to end now.))
So your rules don't make any sense.
In real life, pamphleteers could be arrested. But they also raised militancy with their pamphlets. Which Dadarian's and Qwerty's and others didn't because they weren't demagogues.
So you have no leg to stand on. You guys have been cheating for too long, and if you can cheat, everyone can cheat. So more more prison penalties for anyone, as soon as they are imprisoned they should make new characters. You're done being the sole recipients of broken game loopholes.
Literally your cheating has been directed at players, intimidating them, rather than at the game. You are done.
I'm playing a politician, not a demagogue, so unless I am on the losing side of a revolution, you can't arrest me. And if you do cheat and say you are doing that, I'll cheat and say I have a new character with identical views who is not in prison.
Stand off.
This loophole needs to end now.))
((Who made you god? "You are done." "You're done." "I'm ending that. I'm standing up to you."
Seriously? Don't you know; I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before me."))
(If you break laws openly, while being a politician, I would most certainly demand your arrest, sorry. I cannot agree with the absurd notion that all but demagogues would be immune from law, and I will not be wrecking IC and IG logic for your comfort. If you want to spawn characters - well, this is your choice. This is all))
((By that logic you want all those pamphlets to have had a militancy effect and this game to have had a republican revolution decades ago and your character to be the illegal reactionary.
Except no, you never are in favor of realism when it goes against your interests.
Locking up people for non demagogue agitation action acts makes no historical or game sense because unlike history, those actions don't actually raise in-game militancy, all they do is communicate to other players and try to get players to vote a certain way.
You've been censoring other players, people, not characters in the game, by stealing their PP. It is cheating, it is a loophole, and if you can use loopholes why can't everyone? All of these loopholes should be ended so this game makes sense. ))
Except no, you never are in favor of realism when it goes against your interests.
Locking up people for non demagogue agitation action acts makes no historical or game sense because unlike history, those actions don't actually raise in-game militancy, all they do is communicate to other players and try to get players to vote a certain way.
You've been censoring other players, people, not characters in the game, by stealing their PP. It is cheating, it is a loophole, and if you can use loopholes why can't everyone? All of these loopholes should be ended so this game makes sense. ))
((Private-I Trad))
The revolution has decimated the leadership of every organization in Sardinia, especially our own. Let us rebuild and spread our message throughout united Italy.
We have three important tasks for the present:
1. Make a tally of present membership
2. Decide on new leadership
3. Decide on policy
Respond to this summons if you are still alive, nominate a gentleman for party leadership, and state if you wish to keep our party policies the same ((Protectionism/Interventionism/Limited Citizenship/Moralism/Pro-mil
I nominate Conte di Sfora for party leadership and wish to keep our current policies.
-Colonel Bonaretti, Conte di Nizza
The revolution has decimated the leadership of every organization in Sardinia, especially our own. Let us rebuild and spread our message throughout united Italy.
We have three important tasks for the present:
1. Make a tally of present membership
2. Decide on new leadership
3. Decide on policy
Respond to this summons if you are still alive, nominate a gentleman for party leadership, and state if you wish to keep our party policies the same ((Protectionism/Interventionism/Limited Citizenship/Moralism/Pro-mil
I nominate Conte di Sfora for party leadership and wish to keep our current policies.
-Colonel Bonaretti, Conte di Nizza
((Lol, according to you, even if a politican killed somebody IC, he should not have been arrested, since the thingy would not raise militancy. The class system (which leaves militancy rise to demagogues, as, say, finding parties to politicians and commanding armies to militarists) is not connected in any way with the neccessity not to violate national laws passed by parliament. Kind of funny logic))
((Guys, please stop with the OOC posting. Try to settle this on IRC or by PM. Most of the thread these days is OOC, and based on Shadow in the Andes, TH will have no problem banning it. Lets try to not cause that))