yea you could maybe do a scenario where russia intervenes or intervened in the past ukranian election militarily in order to stabilize the country. then you could have a nice scenario where ukraine and russia duke it out.
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Ukraine will be invaded by Russia in our major scenario. Perhaps...laaaaater on we'll see if we can include some battle scenarios from the fictional war.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/army-ue.htm
this is a good site for russian military modern day
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this is a good site for russian military modern day
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Sorry Maggern, I was away this weekend.
I have to agree with whoever said all the way at the top of the page, about the war with China-India, I think that is a feasible idea and it is included in MDS1.
I also agree with Maggern on the Taiwan Conflict still, and believe that is an ideal situation to start the war with. In MDS1 I coded some events so that if Taiwan does not exist[aka it gives in to china], if India and China go to war, the USA would stop China and the spread of communism.
Japan can be our wildcard. Japaneese people are seeking for more independence. They want protected from Kim Jong and his nuclear weapons. Perhaps we can make events, where the USA loosens its grip over Japan. To this day the Japaneese armed forces can only use force, for self-defense. So we can have two[maybe more] scenarios here.
Possibly, Japan can turn autocratic and align with Kim Jong if the USA refuses to loosen its grip. Possible civl war?
Or the USA can loosen its grip, and Japan might be more persuaded to ally with the USA or remain neutral.
Maggern and I also talked about some African conflicts. If you have any ideas for a few, please send them in.
Our Atlantic Tsunami idea was based off of a Morocco-Spainish war.
I have to agree with whoever said all the way at the top of the page, about the war with China-India, I think that is a feasible idea and it is included in MDS1.
I also agree with Maggern on the Taiwan Conflict still, and believe that is an ideal situation to start the war with. In MDS1 I coded some events so that if Taiwan does not exist[aka it gives in to china], if India and China go to war, the USA would stop China and the spread of communism.
Japan can be our wildcard. Japaneese people are seeking for more independence. They want protected from Kim Jong and his nuclear weapons. Perhaps we can make events, where the USA loosens its grip over Japan. To this day the Japaneese armed forces can only use force, for self-defense. So we can have two[maybe more] scenarios here.
Possibly, Japan can turn autocratic and align with Kim Jong if the USA refuses to loosen its grip. Possible civl war?
Or the USA can loosen its grip, and Japan might be more persuaded to ally with the USA or remain neutral.
Maggern and I also talked about some African conflicts. If you have any ideas for a few, please send them in.
Our Atlantic Tsunami idea was based off of a Morocco-Spainish war.
White revolution in South Africa maybe? It would have to be given something like a 5-10% chance of success, providing that it also gives a major dissent hit to the country for the change? That would create a lot of cross-border conflict with Zimbabwe and Mozambique.
There's the LRA (Lord's Resistance Army, Uganda) that causes a lot of problems in Uganda and the southern portions of Sudan. Uganda has done some cross-border raids into Sudan to take out LRA bases.
Of course, there's always the potential for a military coup in Nigeria, maybe rebels from Biafra trying to break away again. Similarly in the DR Congo with Katanga.
That's all my "on the fly" stuff. I'll get back with any other ideas.
There's the LRA (Lord's Resistance Army, Uganda) that causes a lot of problems in Uganda and the southern portions of Sudan. Uganda has done some cross-border raids into Sudan to take out LRA bases.
Of course, there's always the potential for a military coup in Nigeria, maybe rebels from Biafra trying to break away again. Similarly in the DR Congo with Katanga.
That's all my "on the fly" stuff. I'll get back with any other ideas.
masternick201 said:
didnt the japanese try to do away with that so they can help the attack on Iraq?
dont know if you need it but, here a link to a hole pile of defence companies projects, etc, maybe to help with tech teams and trees
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/
rmsharpe said:
Maggern and I have discussed a few African wars. Alot of them we can probally do. Maybe some new imperialist will come about?
Sorry guys, I've been away this whole week spending my vacation in France.
I still would like a possible alliance between India and China...Perhaps we just code some events for India to choose between two options and finally resulting in either an alliance with China or hostile attitude towards China.
Japan is a real wild-card. We didn't have time to do much with her in MDS 1, but I surely hope we can do something this time around, as Japan with her large industrial capacity and large population can be a major power once the forces are set loose. If Taiwan falls (which I surely think it will very fast), maybe Japan should become the new "US-base" to the region, so that land battles can continue. I'm not sure on this though, and I think we should let the player (or ai) decide a route between Chinese-allied, neutral or US-allied (and if neutral is chosen, perhaps the US and China might stage coups in order to turn the tide
).
Right now, I'm working on the new oobs. I hoped we would be able to use mostly the ones from MDS 1, but as we have new unit types and new provinces, I'll have to remake most of them from scratch. So if you have any good pages with information or you know your country's oob well, please post them here.
Also, the political sliders would have to be adjusted. Please post your country's position if you know it. This part will be hard without help.
Finally, tech teams and country interfaces are greatly appreciated.
Not much of this will be done for the moment though. I have to do the foundations first, and PackMan is busy making a new webpage.
This part of the project is about planning and information-gathering, just to get it collected in a thread.
We thank you for any help you might be able to give, we are open for everything at this stage...
I still would like a possible alliance between India and China...Perhaps we just code some events for India to choose between two options and finally resulting in either an alliance with China or hostile attitude towards China.
Japan is a real wild-card. We didn't have time to do much with her in MDS 1, but I surely hope we can do something this time around, as Japan with her large industrial capacity and large population can be a major power once the forces are set loose. If Taiwan falls (which I surely think it will very fast), maybe Japan should become the new "US-base" to the region, so that land battles can continue. I'm not sure on this though, and I think we should let the player (or ai) decide a route between Chinese-allied, neutral or US-allied (and if neutral is chosen, perhaps the US and China might stage coups in order to turn the tide
).Right now, I'm working on the new oobs. I hoped we would be able to use mostly the ones from MDS 1, but as we have new unit types and new provinces, I'll have to remake most of them from scratch. So if you have any good pages with information or you know your country's oob well, please post them here.
Also, the political sliders would have to be adjusted. Please post your country's position if you know it. This part will be hard without help.
Finally, tech teams and country interfaces are greatly appreciated.
Not much of this will be done for the moment though. I have to do the foundations first, and PackMan is busy making a new webpage.
This part of the project is about planning and information-gathering, just to get it collected in a thread.
We thank you for any help you might be able to give, we are open for everything at this stage...
Maggern2k said:we still have light armor today, like assault vehicles.
motorized I'm not sure...but we don't have to use all slots
cavalry....not sure here either...
Armoured Cav, and Motorized lives on the majority of new AFV projects revole around wheeled chassis (http://www.army-technology.com/projects/#Armoured_Fighting_Vehicles)
lots of countries are slowy phasing out the heavy tracked APCs for Wheeled ones or at least buying/producing large fleets of them (germany, britian, and the Netherlands (http://www.army-technology.com/projects/mrav/), swiss and canada (http://www.army-technology.com/projects/piranha/), finland (http://www.army-technology.com/projects/patria/), the US (http://www.army-technology.com/projects/stryker/) just to name a few)
to leave out the motorized inf, would be to completely handcuff some countries, canada for one has a bunch of old M113 APCs, but has top of the line Motorized equipment Kodiak LAV III, Coyote LRV (recon vehicle), they would be back in the 70's as far as tech for Mech units goes (based on vehicles used) but on the top of the pile with motorized inf (its the only thing some countries have, namely canada
I think you should give some thought to the names of political systems. Obviously, National Socialist doesn't really fit the timeframe, and Fashist also not really. Perhaps replace it by brands of religious fundamentalism? But that wouldn't really fit with Paternal Autocrat.
And perhaps reorganize the left-wing spectrum... it would be cool to have Maoist somewhere in there (although admittedly, China doesn't describe itself that way today. But "Socialist Market System with Chinese Influences" is a bit unwieldy, while Stalinist is IMHO just wrong. Even Leninist would work better). I'm not really sure what it'd replace, though.
Of course, this is largely cosmetics.
And perhaps reorganize the left-wing spectrum... it would be cool to have Maoist somewhere in there (although admittedly, China doesn't describe itself that way today. But "Socialist Market System with Chinese Influences" is a bit unwieldy, while Stalinist is IMHO just wrong
. Even Leninist would work better). I'm not really sure what it'd replace, though.Of course, this is largely cosmetics
.
I know i'm not a part of this Mod bu i just ahve to say something..
The Dec 2004 Tsunami was/is a very big deal in Sweden. Our government has been critizised for the slow reaction. And our foreign minister didn't know where Phuket was!!! Maybe you should add a fictional event that makes the Social Democratic government to resign.. Is it possible? Or even a revolution of somesort :rofl:
The Dec 2004 Tsunami was/is a very big deal in Sweden. Our government has been critizised for the slow reaction. And our foreign minister didn't know where Phuket was!!! Maybe you should add a fictional event that makes the Social Democratic government to resign.. Is it possible? Or even a revolution of somesort :rofl:
Da Swede said:Or even a revolution of somesort :rofl:
Revolution? That is the farthest thing from most swedish peoples minds.
Hehe I know, but i think there should be some series of events that may trigger a civil uproar.
It's fun when things like that happen..
It's fun when things like that happen..
I gave some thought to country details (sorry if I'm just interferring with that ). Perhaps there should be some guidelines on what kind of state gets which slider positions, so all are graded on an equal scale. For example, Democracy (the easiest by far! Note that with opposition I mean organized political parties, not open rebellion - thus, the Taliban didn't have an opposition):
1: Rule by a single, undisputed authocrat. Opposition parties forbidden
2: Rule by a small, unified elite. Opposition still forbidden
3: The ruling elite has open fights among itself; possibly federalist tendencies; possibly a powerless parliament. Opposition, if legal, is splintered
4: (Some) Opposition parties are tolerated. Parliament with minimal power and rigged elections
5: Opposition parties form more or less united front; Parliament with theoretically some power, but rigged elections. Freedom of information curtailed
6: President and parliament elected with only moderate cheating, but freedom of information significantly impaired. President must not answer to parliament
7: Elections more or less fair. Slight state intervention in information flow. Possibly, the president is highly free of control.
8: Fully functional democracy. Constitutional review of laws, smooth power transitions, but popularism and a lack of statesmanship dominate.
9: Fully functional democracy, but both sides occasionally relie on "dirty tricks" (frequent impeachements, boycotts...)
10: Fully functional democracy. More of it isn't really feasible.
The Left-Right Wing slider would then be adjusted to make for the desired government ideology (since that represents how the Government CLAIMS to think, not what it actually DOES - thats the Market and Society sliders).
What do you think?
). Perhaps there should be some guidelines on what kind of state gets which slider positions, so all are graded on an equal scale. For example, Democracy (the easiest by far! Note that with opposition I mean organized political parties, not open rebellion - thus, the Taliban didn't have an opposition):1: Rule by a single, undisputed authocrat. Opposition parties forbidden
2: Rule by a small, unified elite. Opposition still forbidden
3: The ruling elite has open fights among itself; possibly federalist tendencies; possibly a powerless parliament. Opposition, if legal, is splintered
4: (Some) Opposition parties are tolerated. Parliament with minimal power and rigged elections
5: Opposition parties form more or less united front; Parliament with theoretically some power, but rigged elections. Freedom of information curtailed
6: President and parliament elected with only moderate cheating, but freedom of information significantly impaired. President must not answer to parliament
7: Elections more or less fair. Slight state intervention in information flow. Possibly, the president is highly free of control.
8: Fully functional democracy. Constitutional review of laws, smooth power transitions, but popularism and a lack of statesmanship dominate.
9: Fully functional democracy, but both sides occasionally relie on "dirty tricks" (frequent impeachements, boycotts...)
10: Fully functional democracy. More of it isn't really feasible.
The Left-Right Wing slider would then be adjusted to make for the desired government ideology (since that represents how the Government CLAIMS to think, not what it actually DOES - thats the Market and Society sliders).
What do you think?
That sounds really good. If you have any information on which countries get which slider settings (according to your guidelines), please post them. All ideas on all slider options are appreciated, as these are easily changable, but important to the game as a whole.
I think we keep with the old timeframe. 2003-2020.
I'm now working on an new storyline with new ideas and tweaks, but still with the original main plots in place. This one will most likely be more realistic as it is completed. Also, Russian and American OOB now done and I'm working hard to cover the rest. I've also started working on resources. If you, as the communty, would contribute to our efforts with info, ideas, adapted information (i.e. political slider positions, ideological categories, resource positions and amounts etc), I would be able to work much much faster. We need to be more than two or three working on this, I hope you'll help us release our new MDS.
I'm now working on an new storyline with new ideas and tweaks, but still with the original main plots in place. This one will most likely be more realistic as it is completed. Also, Russian and American OOB now done and I'm working hard to cover the rest. I've also started working on resources. If you, as the communty, would contribute to our efforts with info, ideas, adapted information (i.e. political slider positions, ideological categories, resource positions and amounts etc), I would be able to work much much faster. We need to be more than two or three working on this, I hope you'll help us release our new MDS.