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Will the Jewish religion get a revamp to? As this will be the last chance eu4 dlc from my understanding.
 

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Nice tweek to Unify Islam. When I did it I had given most of my European land to vassals so I wouldn't have to bother converting it.



Finally. Belgian Culture!
Correct me if I am wrong, but there's no such a thing as belgian culture, only walloon, flemish and some german mix.
 

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Correct me if I am wrong, but there's no such a thing as belgian culture, only walloon, flemish and some german mix.

That's correct, it's just Belgians being sour because they can't form Belgium. Source: Am Belgian myself.
 

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But as you can see we have also changed the decision rewards. If taken you will now become known as The Caliphate and be given Feudal Theocracy as a government reform.

I gotta say I strongly disapprove of this "reward." As the Ottomans, Mamluks, Mughals, or a Muslim horde, I would never, ever wan't to give up my awesome government form in favor of Feudal Theocracy. The old reward was great; it gives a path to fast conversion without having to invest in religious ideas.

By all means, change the requirements to earn the decision, but don't make this the reward. This effectively removes the "Unify Islam" feature for all of the great Muslim powers, since now we would never take the decision.
 

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A Casus Belli for Great Britain.

I'll never understand to this day why ever since it's inception that the British and French were obsessed with Belgium existing. But I might be biased since I have large amount of Dutch and French blood in me and may or may not prefer if Belgium was split between France and the Netherlands. Can't deny or confirm... ;)
 

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@Groogy , question about the renaming feature... does the game remember the former name ? or is the change permanent ?
 

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I wanna take this opportunity to request a fixes that have yet to be touched for the 1.30 Map.

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1: Give Drenthe either to Groningen or Overijssel. This is a better solution than to split the integrity of Drenthe between Groningen and Overijssel.

2. & 3. The Seperation of the Noord-Brabant between Breda and Den Bosch needs to be changed. The border needs to be near Tilburg and Den Bosch should extend much further south.

I attached some images to give a clue.

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Some Capitals are still in the wrong location. Middelburg (Capital of Zeeland) is on the island-peninsula thing, not on Bergen Op Zoom. (That part of the province should be owned by Breda).

The Dutch Coastline could also use some work.

Here is a quick mod I made to showcase what it is supposed to look like:

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/fixing-the-dutch-coastline.1347290/

Some French things that can use a fix are:

* Anjou is south of the Loire river, even though the capital of the duchy is north of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anjou

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* Orleans is still very oddly shaped and so is Blois even though they were pretty much diamond shapes.

I really hope the team can go over these things because its been months since they have been pointed out by the community and this is the same story as what happened in Spain in 1.28. I thought the point of showing us the map is that we can help you fix it, but that still doesnt happen.

Here are a few posts made by @Mingmung who is always on top of these things and shows all the fixes that can be made:

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/feedback-for-the-1-29-map-update.1228854/
 
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The new Kingdom of God decision is great (finally empire Papal States!); however, the government form bonuses are a bit lacking - I find as the Papal States I'm already overflowing in Prestige and Devotion - the tag really doesn't need more. Any chance you would consider swapping out for more useful/unique bonuses?

I dont know if someone commented before (much stuff to read), but becoming KoG gives a lot of bonuses already: keeping Papal interactions while having all cardinals.

Youll have all the bonuses of having cardinals.
Youll have all the bonuses of being curia controller.
Youll have the bonuses of Papal interactions.

It is already strong enough, no need for more buffs.
 
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Would like to get a notification when a Center of Reformation starts converting one of my provinces so I can then enact counter reformation edict.
 

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Would like to get a notification when a Center of Reformation starts converting one of my provinces so I can then enact counter reformation edict.
I would love too, but isnt it like when province starts getting converted it means that it's too late to enact edicts?
 

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Can we please have an alert for Catholic countries when they reach the 200 papal influence cap?
 

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Can we please have an alert for Catholic countries when they reach the 200 papal influence cap?
Same would be good for Protestants, Reformed, and Anglicans. I love the 3-month warning for maxing out point pools and think it should be applied to anything similar.
 

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@Groogy , question about the renaming feature... does the game remember the former name ? or is the change permanent ?
Seems to be tied to government reforms, correct me if i am wrong.
 

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I dont know if someone commented before (much stuff to read), but becoming KoG gives a lot of bonuses already: keeping Papal interactions while having all cardinals.

Youll have all the bonuses of having cardinals.
Youll have all the bonuses of being curia controller.
Youll have the bonuses of Papal interactions.

It is already strong enough, no need for more buffs.

My comment isn't about having buffs, it's about having meaningful rewards for forming the Kingdom of God. From Groogy's comment it sounds like there will be further bonuses coming, and we will have to see what they are before commenting on what is the best option. My main point is that both Prestige and Devotion are pointless bonuses to award the papal states for forming the KoG.

To put things in perspective, a Papal states forming the KoG will likely have around +3 a year for both these stats at 100. What's the point in having even more? For even more context a Papal States that has built the Sistine Chapel, unlocked its third national Idea and taken Religious Ideas will have a resting point of 100 for prestige. All achievable very early game.

As a side note the bonuses here are also the ones you currently get in game for forming the KoG so it would have been nice for them to be refreshed.
 

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I'll never understand to this day why ever since it's inception that the British and French were obsessed with Belgium existing. But I might be biased since I have large amount of Dutch and French blood in me and may or may not prefer if Belgium was split between France and the Netherlands. Can't deny or confirm... ;)
This is more Victoria II territory but in short it was useful as a buffer state between France and Prussia/Germany, while either of them getting it would upset the balance of power which was the whole Post-Vienna thing
 

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This is more Victoria II territory but in short it was useful as a buffer state between France and Prussia/Germany, while either of them getting it would upset the balance of power which was the whole Post-Vienna thing

I'm aware about the buffer state argument, but wasn't the Netherlands having it a buffer?
 

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I'll never understand to this day why ever since it's inception that the British and French were obsessed with Belgium existing. But I might be biased since I have large amount of Dutch and French blood in me and may or may not prefer if Belgium was split between France and the Netherlands. Can't deny or confirm... ;)

Actually, the interesting thing about Belgium was that it was mostly the Brits who wanted it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talleyrand_partition_plan_for_Belgium

This was a proposal send from France to Britain. But yeah thats all part of later history.

Whether or not a formable is added, I think the tag should at least exist.

Its a tag that is missing in the history of EU4 and has a good reason for existing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Belgian_States

I guess it could become a revolter tag at least. It existed for less than a year. But was profound in creating an identity of Belgians.

The southern netherlands was after Napoleon added to the rest of the netherlands as the United Kingdom of the Netherlands to create a strong buffer state to counter France, and I guess later Germany. But yeah. Britain wanted independant Belgium.

That worked well until Germany invaded Belgium in 1914. So much for the Buffer State.
 

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British foreign policy from the mid-14th century to the mid-19th was in significant part defined by the urge to annoy, upset, and frustrate whoever was in charge in Paris.