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CK2 Dev Diary #67: Revisiting the Middle East

Greetings everyone!

I’m Emil “Servancour” Tisander. Most of you might remember me from the update I did to Hungary and the Danube with the release of 2.7. This time however, I wanted to do something of a larger scope, and with the expansion focusing on the eastern part of the map, what better time to revisit the Middle East and bring it a much needed overhaul?

Those of you who watch the streams might already have seen most of what I’ll show you here but I’ll start by explaining what I’ve done and why.

I had a few goals in mind when I started working on the update. First and foremost I wanted to improve the overall geography and move counties to where they are supposed to be. Some having been placed much too far from their actual location (I’m looking at you Damascus). Secondly, there are plenty of titles in the region that are inappropriately named for the time period, so I wanted to go through what makes sense and what doesn’t to improve the historical accuracy as much as possible. Another thing I wanted to do was to split up the kingdom of Persia somewhat. Persia in CK2 has always been a very large kingdom. Splitting it up into several kingdoms will allow for a more dynamic experience.

Empires remain very much the same, though both the Persian Empire and the Arabian Empire have been increased somewhat in size, due to the addition of new counties. Kingdoms however, have been changed quite significantly. The following kingdoms have been added or renamed accordingly:
Added the kingdoms of Daylam, Khorasan, Iraq and Yemen.
Renamed Mesopotamia to Al-Jazira, Afghanistan to Kabulistan, Baluchistan to Sistan, Khiva to Transoxiana.

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The county layout is also something that you will notice has changed dramatically. Gone are all the weirdly shaped counties, that would either look like a square or be stretched into all manner of shapes. Every single county in the region has been moved and/or reshaped. The single most noticeable addition will be the Syrian desert. Which, in my opinion, is needed to make sure that the surrounding counties can be placed and shaped properly.

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As much as I would like to, I won’t go into detail for all changes I’ve done to the counties. But I’ll highlight some of the more major ones.

Both Fergana and Khuttal are now full-fledged duchies, with three and four counties, respectively.

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Several new counties have been added to Yemen, which consists of the duchies Sanaa, Taizz and Hadramut.

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The duchy of Medina is renamed to Hijaz and got three new coastal counties added, making the duchy consist of six counties in total.

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We’ve also decided to increase the number of counties in the Tarim Basin, in order to make the area more fun and interesting to play in. It has about twice the number of counties compared to the old setup.

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That’s some of the biggest changes that you’ll see on the map which is, as always for map updates, a part of the free 2.8 patch. Bear in mind that it’s still a bit of a work in progress. Some counties are likely to get another set of name changes and other tweaks.

Finally, I would like to give a shout out to @elvain, who helped me with a lot of research. Making this update possible to do to such an extent.

Don’t forget to tune into the Medieval Monday streams 16:00-18:00 (CEST)! During which you can poke me if you want to see a specific region or have any other questions.
 
They are probably going to make next expansion about Africa, another sign that Paradox has abandoned Europe and are never going to improve crusades.

Seeing as I doubt that you have not noticed roasting you got in your own thread about this same topic, I'll go and conclude that you are trolling.
 
They are probably going to make next expansion about Africa, another sign that Paradox has abandoned Europe and are never going to improve crusades.

There has been more than enough European(-focused) content.
 
Seeing as I doubt that you have not noticed roasting you got in your own thread about this same topic, I'll go and conclude that you are trolling.

When was the last time Paradox did something about crusades? Has crusade weight been fixed yet? Why does pope call for eternal crusades when Catholocism doesn't even exist anymore?
 
When was the last time Paradox did something about crusades? Have crusade weight been fixed yet?
The mechanics of the crusades have not been changed (and for sure, it would need an overhaul), but I have the vague souvenir (a few patches ago) of the weights being changed to greatly reduce the occurrence of the much anticipated and cheered crusade for India.
But basically, Europe is not just the crusades and a lot of things have been done for Europe in the last patches.
 
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!! I think you made a mistake.
Renamed Mesopotamia to Al-Jazira --> Al Jazeera is refering to the Arabian Peninsula, not to mesopotamia.
Arabian peninsula is al-Jazira al-Arabiya (vith various possible English spellings). As others already pointed out, al-Jazira is traditional name of Upper Mesopotamia.

Before trying to correct somebody else, try to learn the facts yourself ;)
 
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!! I think you made a mistake.
Renamed Mesopotamia to Al-Jazira --> Al Jazeera is refering to the Arabian Peninsula, not to mesopotamia.
It's more often called Cizire with the Kurdish spelling these days, but it's still a thing.
 
Are we going to have countries stretching over the wastelands if they get to control land near them, just like in EU4? It would improve the looks of the game a lot, and the majority of situations when a country magically ends because there would be a wasteland would vanish. No more disguisting maps.
 
@Servancour

While you're renaming counties, there's one that has always bugged me, albeit not in the Middle East: the "Duchy of Latium."

Nobody in history ever called themselves "Duke of Latium." It's a fictitious title meant to reflect that the region around Rome is known as "Latium."

But there's a better, historical title name! From 533 to 751, there was a Duchy of Rome, part of the Exarchate of Ravenna under the ERE.

Could we please switch the ahistorical Duchy of "Latium" to the at least plausible Duchy of Rome?
 
I hope Mesopotamia remains as a culture or religion-specific name ingame somehow - I always liked how oldschool it was!

The amount of new provinces added looks like it will made some of the larger middle-eastern realms quite powerful indeed - not necessarily a bad thing! It also can mean that when it splits up there are more possibilities. I wonder if anywhere in Europe is going to get anything more to compensate - poor old Kingdom of Jerusalem probably won't stand a chance. As an aside, I always wondered why Scotland had 17 counties to Ireland's 13, considering Ireland has always had a larger population and landmass.
 
Are the Chinese and Taoists going to get their own UI and holding art or are they going to stay Indian nomad rejects?

Did you mean these?
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Are we going to have countries stretching over the wastelands if they get to control land near them, just like in EU4? It would improve the looks of the game a lot, and the majority of situations when a country magically ends because there would be a wasteland would vanish. No more disguisting maps.
I agree with this, although "disgusting maps" is a bit too much ^^
 
Still Yungguan? How long does it take to fix a typo?o_O

Wait a second, you have the time to add a new province but not fix a typo?:mad:
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BTW, I found your province locations... curious. C.f. Google Maps:
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(I had to zoom this far out to have all of them fit on my screen)
 
Weren't we going to get a Kingdom of Oman too?

Daylam Kingdom? Finally the 769 Zoroastriam start inside the Arabian Empire will be playable without my dukedom being revoked in weeks!

Yeah, I just finished a Zoro game (started as a count of the Duke of Tabaristan) and I only survived by comverting to Sunni while secretly professing Zoroastrianism. It was fun but I had no glorious xwedodah for half the game ffs