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Overall, I am quite disappointed with the way PDX handles the GDPR changeover. I like PDX and almost all PDX products very much, so I'm expressing myself instead of being silently annoyed.
However, I get the impression that PDX is very reluctant to make the change, that it doesn't manage to see GDPR as an opportunity, and that, on top of that, numerous changes are (seemingly) unnecessarily made against the interests of customers.
Formulations like that data is deleted GDPR-compatible, unless you have a game of PDX (which is always true, otherwise you wouldn't have produced data first), or now that a login (with data transfer) is necessary to access old versions seems cynical. I'm also worried about how much IPs seem to be stored.
As I've said elsewhere, I'm willing to voluntarily share a lot of data of my choice, have participated in every poll so far, and try to contribute something constructive to the forum. However, if I get the impression that PDX tries to take data by "force" and treat privacy cynically, then my opinion of PDX and accordingly my willingness to provide data drops.
Maybe I just misunderstood something and the communication went wrong. But since I had the impression that PDX was interested in a good relationship and good communication with customers, it seemed right to me to express my perception.
However, I get the impression that PDX is very reluctant to make the change, that it doesn't manage to see GDPR as an opportunity, and that, on top of that, numerous changes are (seemingly) unnecessarily made against the interests of customers.
Formulations like that data is deleted GDPR-compatible, unless you have a game of PDX (which is always true, otherwise you wouldn't have produced data first), or now that a login (with data transfer) is necessary to access old versions seems cynical. I'm also worried about how much IPs seem to be stored.
As I've said elsewhere, I'm willing to voluntarily share a lot of data of my choice, have participated in every poll so far, and try to contribute something constructive to the forum. However, if I get the impression that PDX tries to take data by "force" and treat privacy cynically, then my opinion of PDX and accordingly my willingness to provide data drops.
Maybe I just misunderstood something and the communication went wrong. But since I had the impression that PDX was interested in a good relationship and good communication with customers, it seemed right to me to express my perception.
The same thing is happening to me. Only Stellaris is listed. Where is my EU4 and my HoI4?
My games list is bugged too, like most people here it seems. It only shows games I bought via paradox, not those via steam.
I am also wondering why 1.26 will be password locked? It's released after GDPR took place (somewhere in May), yet it's not GDPR compliant? That seems weird
I am also wondering why 1.26 will be password locked? It's released after GDPR took place (somewhere in May), yet it's not GDPR compliant? That seems weird
Did you really need to make several posts, instead of one to point out things that have already been pointed out?
Don’t really understand what you’re trying to say here. Can you elaborate please?
Dear Paradox,
this reasoning makes no sense. It seems you abuse the implementation of the GDPR as an excuse to collect more data from your customers.
Let me elaborate on the inconsistencies in your allegedly GDPR conform new policy:
- Forcing your customers to link games they acquired via steam to their paradox accounts, is exactly the opposite of what the principle of data minimisation demands since you are collecting more personal data rather than less. This is one of the basic principles of European data protection law enshrined in Art. 5 (1) (c) GDPR.
- It is unclear why you cannot obtain an agreement to your updated privacy policy via steam. Steam offers technical ways to demand your customers to agree to terms of use and privacy policies. All you had to do is update those policies for older games.
- Most of your games were published prior to the applicability of the GDPR. Many aren't actively updated any longer. Why would it then make a difference if I used the latest version (which you still distribute via steam) or an older update (which will only be available after registration on your forums) if both aren't compliant with the GDPR?
Also thank you for renaming me to "unmerged305389"! Let me guess robbing me of my forum name was done in the name of the GDPR as well?
Your games are good but your business practices become more rotten by the day. It really is a paradox ...
You're right. I play on 1.22.2. If they had removed that, I would have been out for blood, and I know other people share my opinion.
I have link may steam account there is no game showing in paradox account, maybe you should make sure it works.
They have said the codes will appear on the first of October - they are not there yet.
Actually, this means that you haven't been on the forum for quite some time... since they merged to new server a few years back.
did you at least read the post and the "show only dev response" before writhing this? . even old version still get info from the users, so they have to apply GDPR
They already get those information, steam share this info ( even with other players), the game itself , and your paradox account . if you want to accuse them of something, at least understand what info they get and share first.
why? those are just passive aggressive insult of victimhood that show your personal hostility ...
So what happens when someone invariably dumps the passwords in a pastebin and it gets circulated? Does it all get tied to the dumper's account? Are the passwords unique?
I'm not linking anything, that's just stupid; in order to comply with anti-data collection, you need to collect more data on me? How about since I made an account, you give me access to the passwords, instead? Even better, why not send out the passwords to the Steam accounts, that way you don't have to worry about whether or not non-legitimate owners can access it.
I'm not linking anything, that's just stupid; in order to comply with anti-data collection, you need to collect more data on me? How about since I made an account, you give me access to the passwords, instead? Even better, why not send out the passwords to the Steam accounts, that way you don't have to worry about whether or not non-legitimate owners can access it.
It probably was already in production before that. Now why they didn't have it fixed for the day the GDPR went into force, and hence have broken the law for 4 months, I don't know.I am also wondering why 1.26 will be password locked? It's released after GDPR took place (somewhere in May), yet it's not GDPR compliant? That seems weird
That has nothing to do with the GDPR. Many years ago the old forum accounts stopped being handed out and instead everything was paradox accounts. Forum account holders then got then option to create a paradox account. Then three years ago things migrated to a new server and forum accounts no longer were able to log in. Hence when first logging in they'd be prompted to make a paradox account, something you also made when you returned from your years long hiatus. Then around a year or so ago they did some update where their data handling required all named accounts to be paradox accounts. Think it was to do with the PI store. So all remaining forum accounts were changed to unmerged(account number), i.e. they were soft deleted. That also meant that if one of them ever returned they could find somebody else now having claimed their old account name... I'm surprised you didn't get a prompt to choose a new name when you returned.
Think he's talking about unsupported games like Vicky II. For which this makes no sense since the latest version of Vicky II doesn't follow the rules either and hence by these arguments should get password protected too. Or removed from the libraries, but that'd be a financial nightmare as it both would lose them tons of goodwill and would cost loads in compensation.
That actually is a very good question since if somebody obtains the password that way then I don't think PI fulfills the law to gather that person's data. Though I'm not a lawyer, so I could be wrong. But give you need to have a clear consent, afaik, then somebody obtaining the pass from a pastebin would bring PI into trouble as they wouldn't have clear consent from that man.
they try to get away with this. i'm not sure if you can get away with this, but you are basicaly stealing the password at this point , so ....