(( As I pointed out, if you split the ACP down the middle, the most sensible thing is for the Federalists to split among them. Having two five member right parties, when I guarantee you you'd have a situation of 2 members of one of the right parties and 3 members of the other being conservatives - meaning two parties with maybe lets say 2 nationalists and 3 conservatives and the other party 3 right liberals and 2 conservatives - makes no sense.
You can't just unilaterally decide to use conservatives as filler for nationalists and right liberals when there are more social-liberals/social-democrats right now, the 3 man Federalists lets say, then there are nationalists.
It makes much more sense for the closest step to the right liberals and conservatives - center right and center-left christian democrats and social liberals - to join the otherwise Right Liberal Leadership, Conservative Party party; to help keep it from being a generic conservative party; as there is no sense in having a conservative party and a nationalist party and only one party for everything else.
Simply put, you are trying to deform the system by telling people where they can and can't go. There is no way everything center-right and to left of that are all going to cluster into one party. If, as you are doing, the left characters that don't show up and vote all the time don't count, then the 3 man federalists don't merit a third party at all and will be split up into the other two; as I was saying before and have been saying about social liberals joining the right liberal party.
We talked about this a month or more ago - you guys all told me that there is no way that a liberal party should be mandated right or left, that right and left liberals should duke it out in the primaries.
If the Federalisrts are so small right now, better to allow us to join whichever of the two ACP splinters we want, and let the Leftist characters reform the Democrats out of nothing should they return to the thread. Only those absent players make the three party system funcitonal - if we are just counting the social liberal/social democrat Federalists and my independent character voting for Terrance right now and not absentee players, then a split in the ACP mean sther ewill be, should be, no more Federalists.
I know BBB isn't going to kill his dream party; but simply put it makes no sense with the player base to have a separate, unwinning party to quarantine everything left of Right. The natural alignment is going to be centrist and social liberals are going to divide themselves among the two ACP splinters.
Without absentee players there are only two parties - a broad liberal party that could otherwise be said if you blended the philosophies of all of its members to be a christian democrat or center democrat party, and a nationalistic party.
With absentee players, that is if they return, we'll have a real three party system again - but with two right parties, the third party is NEVER going to be a soical liberal party, ti's always going to be a socialist party like the Dems or the Libertarians.
I'm not going to put a social liberal character into the Federalists if the ACP splits, and I'll advise everyone else to do the same. The player base justifies either two parties, one moderate and one far right, or - counting absentees - three parties: one far right, one moderate, one leftist.
If the ACP splits, jarvis type characters don't get their own party that doesn't also include Harrison type character.s that's only way it makes sense at all. ))
You can't just unilaterally decide to use conservatives as filler for nationalists and right liberals when there are more social-liberals/social-democrats right now, the 3 man Federalists lets say, then there are nationalists.
It makes much more sense for the closest step to the right liberals and conservatives - center right and center-left christian democrats and social liberals - to join the otherwise Right Liberal Leadership, Conservative Party party; to help keep it from being a generic conservative party; as there is no sense in having a conservative party and a nationalist party and only one party for everything else.
Simply put, you are trying to deform the system by telling people where they can and can't go. There is no way everything center-right and to left of that are all going to cluster into one party. If, as you are doing, the left characters that don't show up and vote all the time don't count, then the 3 man federalists don't merit a third party at all and will be split up into the other two; as I was saying before and have been saying about social liberals joining the right liberal party.
We talked about this a month or more ago - you guys all told me that there is no way that a liberal party should be mandated right or left, that right and left liberals should duke it out in the primaries.
If the Federalisrts are so small right now, better to allow us to join whichever of the two ACP splinters we want, and let the Leftist characters reform the Democrats out of nothing should they return to the thread. Only those absent players make the three party system funcitonal - if we are just counting the social liberal/social democrat Federalists and my independent character voting for Terrance right now and not absentee players, then a split in the ACP mean sther ewill be, should be, no more Federalists.
I know BBB isn't going to kill his dream party; but simply put it makes no sense with the player base to have a separate, unwinning party to quarantine everything left of Right. The natural alignment is going to be centrist and social liberals are going to divide themselves among the two ACP splinters.
Without absentee players there are only two parties - a broad liberal party that could otherwise be said if you blended the philosophies of all of its members to be a christian democrat or center democrat party, and a nationalistic party.
With absentee players, that is if they return, we'll have a real three party system again - but with two right parties, the third party is NEVER going to be a soical liberal party, ti's always going to be a socialist party like the Dems or the Libertarians.
I'm not going to put a social liberal character into the Federalists if the ACP splits, and I'll advise everyone else to do the same. The player base justifies either two parties, one moderate and one far right, or - counting absentees - three parties: one far right, one moderate, one leftist.
If the ACP splits, jarvis type characters don't get their own party that doesn't also include Harrison type character.s that's only way it makes sense at all. ))
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