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    Shadow of the Andes - An Interactive Chilean AAR

    Welcome, all, to the most recent interactive AAR. Shadow of the Andes will follow the history of Chile from 1836, shortly following the Chilean War of Independence and the establishment of the first constitution, to 1936. I'll play the part of your narrator and game master, but all the important decisions will be left to you, the players!

    Shadow of the Andes follows a democracy with the same electoral system as BBB's The Presidents - with one very important twist. That means that leaders are players elected by other players. The player-candidate model of interactivity means that role-playing and character creation are vitally important for the success or failure of this AAR!

    The Rules and details of this AAR, which follow in the post below, must be strictly adhered to at all times. Other than these, stay friendly and have fun. It's your game.

    It is never too late to join!




    This Interactive AAR was approved by Qorten, on September 30th 2011.
    Last edited by ThunderHawk3; 30-09-2011 at 20:17.

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    Chilean Parliamentary Rules of Order (Rules of the AAR)


    The Golden Rule: Civility


    "Members of the Congreso Nacional should always conduct themselves in a manner becoming representatives of the nation."


    Before I go any further, I want to impress upon you the importance of keeping a friendly and civil tone OOC in this AAR and refraining from personal attacks even when in character. I know that other interactive AARs have had trouble with exactly this, so always keep in mind that this thread exists for people to have fun and build a story, nothing else. Qorten made it very clear that violating this simple rule will draw the moderators' displeasure.

    Also be aware that running for office and taking office means that you accept the risk that you may be removed from office. Coups and uprisings are central game mechanics for this AAR, so your removal may be violent. It may even involve a personal betrayal. I am asking you all, as players, to rise above this. If you don't or can't, don't participate in this AAR. I won't tolerate the Golden Rule being broken and I won't hesitate to call in the mods.

    Chapter 1: Membership of the Congreso (Characters)


    "Members of the Congreso Nacional are the people's voice."


    If you've participated in or read The Presidents, you already know the basic structure of character creation. Creating a character is vital to playing in Shadow of the Andes, as in The Presidents, because we both use the player-candidate model. Players themselves must create characters and step up to take office. Your characters represent members of the Chilean Upperhouse (the Senate) and other influential persons who could convince their allies to vote the right way.

    To create a character, simply state vital information like their name, date of birth, and the region they're representing in your first post. A Background is also appreciated.

    (Note that the real-world current administrative regions of Chile are Arica and Parinacota
    Tarapacá, Antofagasta, Atacama, Coquimbo, Valparaíso, Santiago, O'Higgins, Maule, Biobío, Araucanía, Los Ríos, Los Lagos, Aisén, and Magallanes). For simplicity's sake, I will allow you to be a senator from any individual province in game.

    Example:

    Name: José Doe, Senator for Santiago
    Born: 1800
    Party: Partido Nacional
    Background: Born to a well-to-do nationalist family in Santiago, José served with distinction during the Chilean War for Independence and the 1833 Civil War. His family's close connections with the power broker Diego Portales ensured him a seat in the senate after he gained war-hero status. José remains radically pro-military.

    Please do bold your name and position, as above, and when you speak OOC use the double parens ((Like this)).

    Chapter 2: Elecciones (Elections)


    "El Presidente de Chile is chosen by electors."


    As in the United States, Chile's presidents in the 19th century were chosen by the votes of electors. You are the electors. You are also the candidates.

    All votes must be bolded.

    Democracy:

    At certain points in the electoral cycle, I will prompt candidates to run for the nomination of their respective parties. After I've collected these announcements, you will vote for your favored candidate in a primary election. You can only vote in one party's primary.

    Example:

    Partido Nacionalist: José Doe

    The amount of time you have to vote will be stated before the election. When that time elapses, party candidates for the presidency will have been chosen. I will then ask these candidates for their platforms, which I will post, and then the presidential election will begin. You vote for the candidate, and the candidate who receives the most votes will become president. You vote just by naming your favored candidate.

    Example:

    José Doe

    Junta:

    If the government is currently a military dictatorship (more on that in a minute), then Junta voting is in effect. There are no primaries in Junta voting, just announcement from candidates, platforms, and then the presidential election itself. In Junta voting, all players can still vote -- it's just that some people's votes count more than others. In a Junta, general's votes count as 1+# of brigades controlled and admirals are 1+# of capital ships controlled. Everyone else's is just 1 vote.

    A pro-democracy candidate can restore the democracy from a Junta, in which case normal democratic elections proceed next cycle.

    Chapter 3: The Executive (Powers of the President, the Military, and Coups)


    "El Presidente de Chile is the commander in chief of the Chilean Military."


    The President

    When the President of Chile is elected, his platform will be enacted (within the limits of the game). In addition to the standard content of a platform, standard issues, foreign policy, and so forth, El Presidente will critically appoint the generals of the Chilean military. Every army in Chile must have a general or it cannot exist, and only player-characters can be appointed as Generals. Generals are appointed from characters, so appointing new generals is a good way to reward your supporters. As president you need to consolidate your support in the military, but be aware that generals will have an opportunity to commit a coup before your changes to the generalty take effect. The President can only personally serve as the general of the capital stack.

    The President may also appoint up to five ministers: the Minister of the Interior, the Minister of the Treasury, the Minister of State, the Minister of War, and one Minister of the President's choosing. Ministers grant in-game nationwide bonuses but, as generals, can potentially launch a coup against the government. The more ministers back one side of the coup or the other, the more of the mobilization and the capital stack will back that side. The capital stack is always the last to desert the status quo government. Unlike generals, each individual minister does not have specific control over a certain segment of the mobilization.

    The President will declare who controls how many brigades and give the army a general assignment.

    Example:

    José Doe - 3 infantry brigades - Bolivian border

    At this point, the character selected will be modded into the game as a general and put in charge of the appropriate brigades in the appropriate location.

    The President may reserve up to 5 (this number will change with supply limits) brigades as the "capital stack." This is essentially a protection against coups. The capital stack always supports the status quo regime. The Capital stack will stay in the capital and in the event the capital is attacked, the President will personally serve as the commanding general of the stack. However, the stack cannot be used offensively and will defend only the capital, so it obviously negatively effects the country's military response ability.

    Example:

    Myself - 5 Infantry - Capital Stack (Santiago)

    Note that while anyone can propose a new bill (including myself, you will occasionally get proposals from "the lower house", meaning me), the President's are particularly important and will be given priority attention.

    Coups, Rebellions, and the Military

    Any general can declare a coup, further declaring who will be installed as El Presidente if the coup is successful. At this time a sort of mini-election will be conducted in which every general will either declared himself for or against the coup. Any general not voting will be assumed to be neutral in the coup and their troops will not take part. I'll enact the coup in game.

    While coups can theoretically be declared at any time, I believe that the most common coup should and will be the election night coup. In an election night coup, the coup is declared during or just after the election. If the coup is declared before the state of the union, the new president's policies will not have taken effect if the coup is successful. A successful coup transitions the government to a Military Junta (unless the newly installed President declares a democracy as part of his policies, in which case the next election will be in the democratic cycle and style). You cannot have an immediate counter-coup.

    A coup will be successful in game if the capital is occupied by the couping forces. I'm not waiting a year. Standing loyalist forces, excepting those mobilized, will become rebel forces. Mobilized forces are always loyalist, and troops will always follow their commanding general unless they have a rebel affiliation. If they have a rebel affiliation, they may not... but no one will know until its too late.

    In the event of a rebel uprising, generals will similarly declare their side.

    There is a risk to an unsuccessful coup. Players who back the wrong side in a coup, including the President if he is removed from power, cannot vote in the next electoral cycle as they have backed the wrong side. If a Junta declares a coup against itself (because they have lost the election even though all or most of the generals voted for a losing candidate), they run the risk of triggering an uprising.

    Chapter 4: Electoral Cycles


    "El Presidente de Chile serves a five-year term."


    Each electoral cycle is five years. In democracy and Junta they proceed as follows:

    Here's a summary of how these electoral cycles work:

    During a Democracy, the update cycle goes U1 (State of the Union) -> Candidates declare -> U2 (Primary) - > Primary vote on party candidates -> U3 (Election) -> Election vote -> U4 (Declaration of Victor) -> General appointments/policy introductions/coups declared -> U1 again

    People participating an ongoing coup or rebellion wouldn't be allowed to vote. Any character who controls troops can declare a coup immediately post-election, before the new executive's policies take effect. Coups must declare who they intend to install as leader, it need not be the person who started the coup.

    Players who backed the losing side of a coup, regardless of how it turned out, can't vote in the next election cycle. This makes Coups risky. If a coup or rebellion lasts more than an electoral cycle, currently rebelling generals also can't vote.

    If a coup is successful, the government transitions to Junta. In a Junta, the electoral cycle does not occur. Instead, the cycle progresses U1 (State of the Union) -> candidates declare -> U2 (Election) -> Election Vote -> U3 (Declaration of Victor) -> General appointments/policy introductions -> U1 again

    Chapter 5: Miscellaneous


    "The government shall be responsible for delivering the mail..."


    No campaigning outside this thread, and I hold the final say on party creation.

    I also reserve right of veto.

    Last edited by ThunderHawk3; 31-10-2011 at 00:02.

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    Table of Contents
    Thread Essentials
    Title Post
    Rules of the AAR
    The List of Characters

    Timeline
    SOTU 1836
    1836 Primary
    1836 Conventions
    1836 Candidates
    1836 Presidential Election
    Badajoz 1836-1837
    Badajoz 1837-1840
    1841 Primary
    1841 Conventions
    1841 Candidates
    1841 Presidential Election
    Badajoz 1841-1844
    Badajoz 1845
    1846 Coup
    1846 Primary
    1846 Conventions
    1846 Candidates
    1846 Election
    Romano 1846-1848
    Romano 1849-1850
    1851 Primary
    1851 Conventions
    1851 Candidates
    1851 Election
    Romano 1851
    Romano 1852
    Romano 1853-1854
    Romano 1854-1855
    1856 Primary
    1856 Conventions
    1856 Candidates
    1856 Presidential Election
    1856 Coup, Part 1
    1856 Coup, Part 2
    Cesar/Disraeli 1856-1861
    1861 Candidates
    1861 Prime Ministerial Appointment
    Cesar/Disraeli 1861
    1861-1863 Civil War
    De Santa Rosa 1863-1865
    1866 Primary
    1866 Conventions
    1866 Candidates
    1866 Presidential Election
    De Santa Rosa 1866
    De Santa Rosa 1866-1870
    De Santa Rosa 1870
    1871 Primaries
    1871 Conventions
    1871 Candidates
    1871 Presidential Election
    Zepeda 1871-1873
    1873 Uprising
    Cortez 1873-1875
    1876 Primaries
    1876 Conventions
    1876 Candidates
    1876 Presidential Election
    1876 Coup
    Andonie 1876-1880
    1881 Primaries
    1881 Conventions
    1881 Candidates
    1881 Presidential Election
    1881 Coup
    Andonie 1881-1883
    Andonie 1883-1885
    1886 Primaries
    1886 Conventions
    1886 Candidates
    1886-1887 Civil War
    1886 Presidential Election
    Gogołów 1887-1888
    Gogołów 1888-1889
    Gogołów 1889-1890
    1891 Primaries
    1891 Conventions
    1891 Candidates
    1891 Presidential Election
    1891 Coup
    Rivera 1891-1892
    Rivera 1892-1894
    Rivera 1894-1895
    1896 Primaries
    1896 Coup
    1896 Conventions
    1896 Candidates
    1896 Presidential Election
    1896 Constitutional Crisis
    De Conti 1896-1898
    1898-1899 Civil War, Part 1
    1898-1899 Civil War, Part 2
    Fernandez 1899-1900
    1901 Candidates
    1901 Caudillo Election
    Fernandez 1901-1905
    1906 Candidates
    1906 Caudillo Election
    Sáez 1906-1908
    Sáez 1908-1910
    1911 Candidates
    1911 Caudillo Election
    Fuentes 1911
    1911-1913 Civil War, Part 1
    1911-1913 Civil War, Part 2
    Provisional Government, 1913-1915
    1916 Primary
    1916 Candidates
    1916 Presidential Election
    Bevan 1916-1918
    Bevan 1918-1920
    1921 Primary
    1921 Conventions
    1921 Candidates
    1921 Presidential Election
    Fuentes 1921-1923
    Fuentes 1923-1925
    1926 Primary
    1926 Conventions
    1926 Candidates
    1926-1928 Civil War, Part 1
    1926-1928 Civil War, Part 2
    1926 Presidential Election
    Palomino 1929-1930, Part 1
    Palomino 1929-1930, Part 2
    1931 Primary
    1931 Conventions
    1931 Candidates
    1931 Presidential Election
    Farìas 1931-1933
    1933 Coup
    Farìas 1933-1935
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBadBob View Post
    I don't have the time to run "The Presidents" and take part in this AAR too, so all I can do is wish you the best of luck in this endeavor.
    It's much appreciated, BBB. I hope you'll pop your head in whenever you can

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    Okay, rules are now finished. Character creation is open and you should all feel free to start making, or at least thinking about characters. You don't need a character to vote, but you need one to run for office or take command of an army.

    The first update is incoming to open the action of the AAR. It will have one bill to vote on.

    EDIT: I should mention that you don't need to know anything about Chile to participate.

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    1836: Prieto Stands Aside


    The 19th Century was a tumultuous time for Chile, but it began with a triumph. In 1821, the lengthy Spanish rule in South America finally came to an end as the continent was wracked by a series of revolutionary wars of independence. Together, Chilean and Argentinean nationalists broke the back of the Spanish army in South America in a stunning series of battles fought across the continent under the leadership of San Martin. From 1817 to 1823, the newly formed Chilean state was ruled by the dictator Bernardo O'Higgins. Civil unrest led to the collapse of his regime in 1824, after which Chile descended into a state of anarchy. The 1829 Chilean civil war, fought between the conservative aristocratic Pelucones and liberal populist Pipiolos resulted in a conservative victory and the establishment of the Chilean Republic in 1831 and the Chilean Constitution in 1833.

    The Republic, already wracked by civil war and internal conflict, was brought to order once again by the barrel of a gun. General José Joaquín Prieto, military leader of the conservatives, seized Santiago in 1831 and installed himself as 1st President of the Republic. Under the 1833 Constitution, politics in Chile would be dominated by a unitary oligarchy with a few key actors in the Chilean political scene controlling the political direction of the country.

    By far the most powerful of these figures was the power broker Diego Portales, a kingmaker in Chilean politics and an enormously popular minister "under" Prieto. Prieto, a nationalist Jingo, pursued the idea of war with Bolivia and Peru for lost Chilean land into 1835 - with disastrous effects. The rogue anti-war Colonel José Antonio Vidaurre, commander of the Maipo regiment, captured and executed Diego Portales, who became a martyr in the eyes of the Chilean people. Though the mutineers were quickly dealt with, the effect had been permanent: popular sentiment had taken a decisively anti-military bent and the public turned against Prieto as responsible for Portales' death. Worse still, without Portales' influence and wherewithal, Prieto no longer believed he had the support necessary to retain the presidency. Shortly before the 1836 elections, Prieto made a bombshell announcement to the electorate: he would not seek a second term as President of Chile.



    1. José Joaquín Prieto, 1st President of the Republic of Chile.


    The nation, despite sentiment against him, had assumed that Prieto would seek a second term. Without any obvious leaders, the major parties scrambled to form together and nominate new candidates.

    Other than the new election, Chile was also now facing a new budgetary crisis. Prieto had insisted on a heavily pro-military policy, maintaining six brigades of well trained and supplied infantry. Though obviously necessary more than a decade ago, when the Spanish remnants in the Americas were still a threat, and five years ago when the civil war still raged, Chile now strained under the weight of the maintenance of these troops. Keeping them trained and equipped occupied nearly 70% of the governmental budget, and even extraordinary tax measures would be unable to sustain them.

    In late 1835, the treasury finally informed the Congreso that either Chile would reduce its military spending or face bankruptcy.

    Before his departure in 1836, Prieto left a single bill on the docket for the consideration of the outgoing Congreso. The bill, which he simply named the "Peru-Bolivia Act," proposed crushing new 75% taxes on all income brackets, a huge tariff, and the upkeep of the existing Chilean army "until such time as the issue of Chilean territorial claims in Peru and Bolivia is settled." If the bill is not passed, budgetary reality will force a downgrade in the quality of the Chilean army from unitary infantry to regional standing militias.


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    Player Actions Needed:
    Vote on the Peru-Bolivia Act! If the bill succeeds, new tax measures will be implemented (though the government will still run a deficit). If it doesn't, the Chilean army will be changed from infantry to irregulars.

    Now is also the time to declare your candidacy. Create and introduce your character! If you are running, remember to say so in bold and specify (Liberales or Conservadores). Then vote on the Peru-Bolivia Act. Three candidates are the max for both parties.
    Last edited by ThunderHawk3; 01-10-2011 at 08:08.

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    OOC: Are characters required to be senators at this point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Cesar View Post
    OOC: Are characters required to be senators at this point?
    Not at all. It's assumed you vote by influencing your allies in the senate if you're not a senator.

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    Name: General Cesar Carlos Roseno.
    Date of Birth: 1796
    Occupation: General Within the Chilean armed forces.
    Background: Born to a middle classed family within Santiago, Cesar quickly rose through the military ranks upon fighting for the Conservative government in the period of Civil War, and was one of the few generals to oppose Prieto during his latter reign.

    YES to Peru-Bolivia act.

    OOC: Another question, how will coups by other types of government be...well...incorporated. Anarchists, Communists, Fascists, ect. Or even separatists for a matter of fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Cesar View Post
    OOC: Another question, how will coups by other types of government be...well...incorporated. Anarchists, Communists, Fascists, ect. Or even separatists for a matter of fact.
    If a coup occurs, your coup is assumed to institute a presidential dictatorship unless otherwise specified. If you do specify a different kind of coup, (ie: Communist), then your government enforces those demands and the government switches to that type. The electoral system will remain the same. You can't declare a coup for a type of government that hasn't been invented yet (in other words, you can't have a communist coup immediately, we haven't even invented socialism yet). The game will proceed as normal as you enact your policies. I'm not allowing separatist coups. Pan-nationalism isn't an issue for Chile.
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    Name: Francisco Rivera
    Born: 1798
    Position: Senator from Santiago
    Party: Conservadores
    Background: Born into an aristocratic family, Rivera was a strong supporter of Portales and Prieto and supports a strong military. Would like to have a strong government push to modernize the economy and increase industrialization especially in strategic military industries.
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    Name: Senator Michael Badajoz
    Date of Birth: 1805
    Occupation: Land owner in Central Chile, in the process of converting to textile (?) manufactury in the face of industrialization.
    Background: Long descendent of Jewish immigrants fleeing Spain after the inquisition to colonial Chile. Born to a middle- upper class family in Santiago, Michael has never lost his connection with the poor immigrants however. Michael Badajoz assisted in the fight for independence at a young age in 1821, and fought for the liberals during the Chilean Civil War. Michael Badajoz considers himself a staunch patriot to his nation, despite his liberal views in the face of conservative victory, and hopes to form the liberal block in the new Chilean democracy.
    Party: Liberales
    Views: Laissez Fair/ Interventionist economics, pro-Military/ Jingo (in regards to foreign held land), Full citizenship, yada yada yada

    Ney to Peru Bolivia Act

    Candidate for Liberals

    (You already planning socialist revolt, Cesar ;-)).
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    ((You know me all too well (;...but that's probably for a second character, I plan to RP this one more as a nationalistic General, who fights for the country and his jingoistic ambitions and not for politicians.))
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    Here's my candidate:

    Name: Emilio Hernández de Caviezel
    Date of Birth: 6 June, 1794
    Senator of: Bío-Bío Province (CICP)
    Origin: Born to Romansh immigrants from Switzerland, de Caviezel was a leading General during the Chilean War of Independence. In 1830, after seeing the chaos of the rest of the Southern Cone, and the order and stability of Imperial Russia, he founded the Chilean Intergrationist and Czarist Party, a party that seeks to turn Chile into a monarchy with a member of the House of Romanov as its Emperor, as well as annexing Argentina, Uruguay, Bolivia, and the Rio Grande do Sul. Being a Romansh-Chilean himself, de Caviezel is a pan-Rhaetoroman nationalist, who also supports having an independent Rhaetia (which would cover Graubünden, Ticino, Tyrol, Voralberg, Liechtenstein, and Friuli) under Chilean influence and leadership

    Positions:
    -Supports the Peru-Bolivia Act
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    ((I don't think you can make your own party like that without ThunderHawks permission...))

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    This is to ask ThunderHawk:
    "Can I form this party that I have proposed?"
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    Current Character:
    New Character: Carlos Arteaga
    Ideology: Moderate, leaning socialista or liberale
    Born: 1897, Santiago Chile

    Heir to a vast telegraph and telephone business, Carlos Arteaga had been managing its expansion into Colombia when news of the Communist Revolution broke out. When the war settled down several years later, and Ignacio Arteaga retiring from the stress of business in wartime, Carlos was recalled to Chile to manage the company - the unstable giant, Chilean Telephone.

    Chilean Telephone, as the company had been most recently renamed (as the telegraph and other communications industries it had been founded on became less and less relevant), was nearly bankrupted by the devastation of its infrastructure. Between the bombardments and military sabotages, Carlos estimated that there were more telephone lines surviving in Colombia - where Chilean Telephone had just started an ambitious expansion plan before the fighting - than in all of Chile. While the devastation was costly for the Arteaga's, their business continued to survive as many smaller telephone service providers went under. With new markets, and the ability to build much of the country's telephone infrastructure up from scratch with the newest technologies, the opportunities for Chilean Telephone in the post revolution era were limitless.

    As he returned to Chile, Carlos began to meet with local and federal politicians in Chile as they worked to rebuild Chilean infrastructure.

    Former characters:
    Senator from Buenos Aires, Agustin Serrano
    Born: 1890

    Agustin's father Antonio had been a militia leader - some suggest he was a deserter from one of the coups in Chile - of a far rightist anti-Germánist militia in the crumbling state of Argentina. When Chilean forces marched into Buenos Aires in 1903, Mariano marched with them and gained a relatively obscure military post in the newly annexed territories. With his new power and money, Mariano sent Agustin to a Spanish university to further his education.

    This was a mistake. Agustin had never had a good relationship with his father and in Spain he learned about the Communist cause. After a series of incredibly vitriolic letters, the two parted ways for several years. Agustin returned in 1906 to flee his debts in Spain (as his father's rejection included a severance of all financial support), and joined the Red Guard of Chile. Revolution followed soon afterwards, and Agustin's regiment stormed the offices of the local nationalist leaders. Mariano was killed during the firefight and the city was temporarily in the hands of the Red Guard.

    After the return of democracy, however, Agustin became less enthused with the idealistic and revolutionary Communist organizations in Chile. "The Socialistas at least get something done." he often said to his friends. He left the Red Guard and ran for office, following the lead of the socialists (and the communists to some degree) in taking power by the newly reinstated elections.

    Later Events:
    - Became Minister of the Interior under the Fuentes Administration.
    - Declared the government void and began a communist revolution.
    - Lead the western front of the People's Army until, surrounded and besieged, he committed suicide
    Governor of the Canal Zone, Eduardo Alvarez
    Born: 1844
    At the tender age of 12, Eduardo was on the run. During the imperialist coup his grandfather, Admiral Gabriel Alvarez, had taken the family to the Galapagos along with other Republicano leadership. In the years that followed, Eduardo would help the government in exile with various tasks. As he grew older, his brilliance in arithmetic and mathematics lead him to jobs managing the always stretched supplies and logistics of the so called Free Chilean Navy.

    When the Republicano's returned to power, Eduardo continued this line of work in the ministry of the navy. Although he never took command in a military position like his father and grandfather had, many say that he is younger version of them - traditional, reserved, and always focused on efficiency. His strong feelings for the republic, perhaps caused by his early memories of exile during the imperial era, lead to his loyalty to democracy against the great amount of coups that occurred during his service.

    -Later Events-
    - Appointed Admiral of the Navy for a mostly unbroken period of time, although many claimed secretly that this was more due to the lack of power in the Navy than anything else (its weakness caused the job to be less political than the often replaced generalships)
    1896: Worked fairly unhampered during the Constitutional Crisis over army appointments, as both the Chief of Staff and President assigned him to his post.
    1898: Aided in the flight of the Chilean Government to the Canal Zone during the Dual Coup.
    1899: Appointed as Commissioner to the Navy for the Chilean Free State, a leading voice in the triumvirate of the Provisional Government.
    - Continued to serve in this position as the Free State was driven out of the Canal Zone into (formerly French) Martinique.
    1911: Returned with a greatly reduced (although technologically advanced) navy to aid in a general rebellion in the Chilean Mainland.
    - Reassigned as admiral after the overthrow of the Nationalist dictatorship.
    1916: Retired from his military office and died from complications in surgery.
    Captain Gabriel Alvarez
    Born: 1796, day and month unconfirmed
    Gabriel's detractors call him a bean counter, obsessed with statistics and costs and altogether too cautious. Despite this lack of excitement, he rose from a poor life in a fishing village to a high position in his young nation's similarly young navy.
    - Later events -
    Promoted to Admiral by Badajoz.
    Promoted to Minister of War and Navy by Badajoz.
    Called on troops to stand down and not resist the coup effort of Zepeda. Arrested as a result by victorious anti-coup proponents.
    Declared innocent of treason in a trial before the Senate, reinstated as Admiral by Romano's administration.
    Recruited as Rear Guard for the Grand Army of the North by Romano.
    Removed from command by the Zepeda administration until Minister of War Santandera declared him admiral in opposition to the Zepeda coup.
    Admiral of the Free Chilean Navy during the Imperial rule of Chile, engaging in slightly justified piracy in resistance of the Roseno regime.
    Admiral and commander of the Chilean Navy (and Minister of Navy at one time) in subsequent administrations until his death, October 15, 1875. He was 79 years old. The hull was just set for the first Chilean ironclad (and first real development of a modern Chilean Navy), the Gabriel Alvarez.
    Nay to the Peru-Bolivia Act.

    ((I'm very interested in how this will work out as I am vaguely considering an interactive AAR which could really use such coup rules and all))
    Last edited by Gloa; 10-05-2012 at 05:24.
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    Forward the Revolution(s)!: A Federation of "Equals" : Naval Officer Klemens Haas

  19. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by atomicsoda View Post
    ((How do coups occur? ))
    Coups are declared by players (it's all up there in the rules post), but they can only be declared by players who are currently generals or admirals in control of brigades or ships. If you were a general with some brigades and you wanted to start a coup, you'd just post declaring that you were couping. You'd also say who you were trying to install as the new leader. No one has any brigades under their control until the first election, when command will be chosen by El Presidente.

    Quote Originally Posted by hoi2geek View Post
    This is to ask ThunderHawk:
    "Can I form this party that I have proposed?"
    No, not now. I feel that we need more people before we can start creating new parties.

    Since it's just you four, so far, I think we ought to wait a little.

    So far:

    Liberales Candidates:
    Michael Badajoz

    Conservadores Candidates:
    Francisco Rivera

    I'll start running the primaries when we get 3 of each plus some more voters. I'm aim for ten people overall to start with. Hopefully, we'll hit that target in the next few hours or by tomorrow at the latest.

    Meanwhile, the Peru-Bolivia Act's current count
    Yes: 3
    No: 2

    EDIT: Gloa slipped in there while I wasn't looking, making the vote on the Peru-Bolivia Act closer.
    Last edited by ThunderHawk3; 01-10-2011 at 00:49.
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  20. #20
    Name: Alvarez Ana, Senator for Antofagasta
    Born: 1782
    Party: Conservadores
    Background: Alvarez Ana was born to an aristocratic family located within the proximity of Santiago. A neutral family, they served to gain everything from watching as domestic rivals and Spanish officials squander their wealth and power tearing at each other and encouraged the culmination of conflict while ensuring their mines were spared. Alvarez Ana derives most of his income from the Ana family mines in Antofagasta, extracting nitrate and selling it to American industry. He encourages modernity and technological extravagance, but is disturbed by the possibility of a disruption of the social order.
    Nay to Peru-Bolivia Act
    Senator John C. Brockman of North Carolina (b. 1818) in The Presidents, Republican
    Senator Alvarez Ana (Conservadore) of Antofagasta in Shadow of the Andes
    Peru in World in Revolution: 1861

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