They're fighting for one muslim county. The battle has been raging back and forth for years by now. Every time, Genoa (now controlling a large swathe of Italy) and the HRE land 20-60k troops and lose at least half to attrition. I suspect the death count has exceeded 100k.
And now I'm just waiting for them to be done, so I can take it.
Edit: France decided to join the fray.
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