Yes , we should not loose the momentum created when you took control per deputy speaker. I sense a major power shift soon due to vacant offices and believe that if we act too quickly here , we would loose that momentum.
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"I am saying our present discussion should be brought to a conclusion and voting on it should begin before we move on to haggling over who gets the gavel next."
I agree. Unless there is last minute discusstion WETS will be tabled for a vote.
Also note that nominations for the new speaker are now being accepted in the Speaker's office.
Also note that nominations for the new speaker are now being accepted in the Speaker's office.
I would like to make a motion that we stay any further debate on the final version of the NBRA and move to vote on the final version of that legislation at this time.
Here is a copy of the final version as of now
*Rev. Pollos hands Per. Sykes a copy of the NBRA as amended*
*Rev. Pollos hands Per. Sykes a copy of the NBRA as amended*
Thank you Per Pollos.
Voting is now open on the NBRA Act
Voting will start tomorrow on the new speaker. We currently have two candidates.
Voting is now open on the NBRA Act
Voting will start tomorrow on the new speaker. We currently have two candidates.
"And the WETS? Admiral Tulp seems to have abandoned his attempt to make a case against the bill and debate has come to a standstill.
You've earlier said you plan to move it to a vote, Per Pollos has supported doing so, when will voting open?"
You've earlier said you plan to move it to a vote, Per Pollos has supported doing so, when will voting open?"
Nominations for speaker is now closed.
Per Cain and myself, Per Sykes, are the candidates.
Voting will start shortly.
Per Cain and myself, Per Sykes, are the candidates.
Voting will start shortly.
Thank you Major Braxton. Because you just signed up I can't allow you to vote on any of the current Bills. But you will be able to vote in the speaker election.
"Do the candidates plan to tell us why we should vote for them? I'd like to think we can continue this streak of non-partisan politics by letting the two candidates tell us why we should choose them then electing the best man for the job."
Sure. Of course.
Per Cain is invited to plead his case.
I'll simply say that I've been doing this for half the term now, and it might be best for the sake of continuity to let me continue, rather than have a third speaker this term.
I got off to a slow start, but that's mostly cause I hadn't been following all that was going on before I got saddled with this position. But I think I'm just getting the hang of it now.
So, for continuity for the remainder of the term, I ask all MGAs to vote for me as your speaker.
thankyou
Per Cain is invited to plead his case.
I'll simply say that I've been doing this for half the term now, and it might be best for the sake of continuity to let me continue, rather than have a third speaker this term.
I got off to a slow start, but that's mostly cause I hadn't been following all that was going on before I got saddled with this position. But I think I'm just getting the hang of it now.
So, for continuity for the remainder of the term, I ask all MGAs to vote for me as your speaker.
thankyou
Here, here!!!
*Rev. Pollos turns toward the backbenchers hopeing for a bit of applause*
*Rev. Pollos turns toward the backbenchers hopeing for a bit of applause*
There is a moment's uncomfortable silence, before an ELP backbencher rises and speaks. "Be that as it may, Per Sykes, we all know that we're not actually voting for the next speaker. We're voting for the next President here. As soon as we have a new official Speaker, President Vandelft will be removed due to the fact that he has yet to appear, and the Speaker will be elevated to the Presidency. Then we'll have another Speaker election.
Doesn't your argument indicate that we should in fact, NOT vote for you in this election, but instead vote for Per Cain and then vote for you in the second speaker election? For the sake of continuity and keeping you in the position you are in now."
Doesn't your argument indicate that we should in fact, NOT vote for you in this election, but instead vote for Per Cain and then vote for you in the second speaker election? For the sake of continuity and keeping you in the position you are in now."
"Indeed, as my fellow Party member stated, we are, in all likely hood, voting for the next President of Eutopia. And so I will speak to you, my fellow members of the General Assembly.
My resume is not one that exites, nor one that has a series of famous speeches or events. But it is one of dilligence and hard work. I began my career as a Minister of the government, however, shortly after my appointment General Levarge had me arrested along with other ministers.
I was freed by Levarge in order to work with emergency aid and medical institutions during what I feared would be a violent crisis. After the end of the Levarge era, I cofounded the Labour Party. I had not intended for the Labour party to make the impact that it did. In fact, we planned on being the party devoted to keeping the government honest.
However, things took off. And, as I led the ELP into the first campaign, we became one of the strongest party's in the government. My cooporation with Labor and the Monarchists helped bridge parts of this country into the first cohesive government after the Levarge coup. Together, with other parties here, we led the government to this point.
I did leave the public life for some time. During the riots outside AAH headquarters, I was injured. Due to my injuries, I was forced to leave the public eye. Upon my return I have taken up the reigns of my party and am once again helping the people of Eutopia in these halls.
I think the most important part of this election will be the stability our president can provide. That is what I offer. Stability in the form of a moderate stance. I will ensure that the government stays running untill election time. I will continue to encourage economic and social growth, while at the same time making sure that the country continues down a smooth, peacefull, and stable path. I hope that together, I, the ministers, and this noble congress, can make sure Eutopia stays on the right path. We will continue our friendly relations with the rest of the world, and improve our stance in the eyes of our neighbors. A maintained stability will improve our economy, our confidence and our nation. That is what I will offer, stability and confidence, if I am elected.
My resume is not one that exites, nor one that has a series of famous speeches or events. But it is one of dilligence and hard work. I began my career as a Minister of the government, however, shortly after my appointment General Levarge had me arrested along with other ministers.
I was freed by Levarge in order to work with emergency aid and medical institutions during what I feared would be a violent crisis. After the end of the Levarge era, I cofounded the Labour Party. I had not intended for the Labour party to make the impact that it did. In fact, we planned on being the party devoted to keeping the government honest.
However, things took off. And, as I led the ELP into the first campaign, we became one of the strongest party's in the government. My cooporation with Labor and the Monarchists helped bridge parts of this country into the first cohesive government after the Levarge coup. Together, with other parties here, we led the government to this point.
I did leave the public life for some time. During the riots outside AAH headquarters, I was injured. Due to my injuries, I was forced to leave the public eye. Upon my return I have taken up the reigns of my party and am once again helping the people of Eutopia in these halls.
I think the most important part of this election will be the stability our president can provide. That is what I offer. Stability in the form of a moderate stance. I will ensure that the government stays running untill election time. I will continue to encourage economic and social growth, while at the same time making sure that the country continues down a smooth, peacefull, and stable path. I hope that together, I, the ministers, and this noble congress, can make sure Eutopia stays on the right path. We will continue our friendly relations with the rest of the world, and improve our stance in the eyes of our neighbors. A maintained stability will improve our economy, our confidence and our nation. That is what I will offer, stability and confidence, if I am elected.
Jim Sykes shrugs.
"Be that as it may. We are technically voting for speaker and as such I don't think this should be turned into a presidential campaign.
However, since Per Cain has said his bit, I'll do mine.
I admit I am young, relatively new to politics, and have very little experience. However, we all know that this term is on its last legs, so to speak. What better way for one to gain the experience then through a short stint as presidency?
First and foremost, I think, as Per CAin said, we need to have stability in our leadership. I think both Per Cain and myself, can vow to be here until the end of term. I'm not going anywhere.
I see one major issue that needs to be dealt with. The ongoing situation with our neighbours. Historically we've tried many things. We've tried to bring us all together, and that has failed. We've also tried some form of military cooperation, and that has failed.
I will try to push for a full military understanding with our neighbours. If not a full alliance, at least one where our military leaders share information. We need to head off situations like what happened in New Bengal and deal with the new issues in WET.
In short, whereas in the past, domestic issues have been in the forefront, it is crucial that we now followup on foreign policy issues.
Another thing I would look into is our constitutional succession format. I believe that if the president disappears, the VP should succeed. If the VP disappears before he names a sucessor, then new elections should be called. The current system, I believe, is undemocratic. Neither myself, nor Per Cain, would have the DIRECT mandate from the people.
And third, we really should examine the Black Hole and find out just where all our veteran politicos disappear to.
"Be that as it may. We are technically voting for speaker and as such I don't think this should be turned into a presidential campaign.
However, since Per Cain has said his bit, I'll do mine.
I admit I am young, relatively new to politics, and have very little experience. However, we all know that this term is on its last legs, so to speak. What better way for one to gain the experience then through a short stint as presidency?
First and foremost, I think, as Per CAin said, we need to have stability in our leadership. I think both Per Cain and myself, can vow to be here until the end of term. I'm not going anywhere.
I see one major issue that needs to be dealt with. The ongoing situation with our neighbours. Historically we've tried many things. We've tried to bring us all together, and that has failed. We've also tried some form of military cooperation, and that has failed.
I will try to push for a full military understanding with our neighbours. If not a full alliance, at least one where our military leaders share information. We need to head off situations like what happened in New Bengal and deal with the new issues in WET.
In short, whereas in the past, domestic issues have been in the forefront, it is crucial that we now followup on foreign policy issues.
Another thing I would look into is our constitutional succession format. I believe that if the president disappears, the VP should succeed. If the VP disappears before he names a sucessor, then new elections should be called. The current system, I believe, is undemocratic. Neither myself, nor Per Cain, would have the DIRECT mandate from the people.
And third, we really should examine the Black Hole and find out just where all our veteran politicos disappear to.
"Per Speaker, should the President be removed, the Vice President *does* take over. Per Vandelft, as the actual Speaker and Vice President, is our new President. However, as precedent established earlier in this eventful term, should the Speaker cum President not say a public word before his replacement at Speaker is named, he is promptly removed and the new Speaker is President. Vandelft has not been seen since you took over here. This *is* a Presidential election, Per Sykes...your denial will not change that or help your candidacy.
Per Sykes, not counting the man we elect today, we have had FIVE Presidents this term. Would you, CAN you, in good conscience demand that the business of government halt entirely FIVE times in one term to elect new Presidents in popular elections when the parties here represent a valid percentage of the voting public? Can you say our results here would be so different from a popular election that they would justify not just huge inefficiency but the complete shutdown of government for a drawn out Presidential election?
The Vice President, who we elect as Speaker, would ascend in your system, and he would have no more direct a mandate than the current system. And if I understand your proposal correctly, the Vice President would name a successor that would ascend if he could not...correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't one man choosing a successor even less democratic than the current system of 100 men and women who form a representative sample of the voting public? Doesn't this make your system both less efficient AND less democratic?" There is some general muttering of approval, much of it from the ELP section of the Assembly. Sykes can't be sure, but he thinks that the backbencher may be attempting to bait him into a corner where he can really put him down for the count.
Per Sykes, not counting the man we elect today, we have had FIVE Presidents this term. Would you, CAN you, in good conscience demand that the business of government halt entirely FIVE times in one term to elect new Presidents in popular elections when the parties here represent a valid percentage of the voting public? Can you say our results here would be so different from a popular election that they would justify not just huge inefficiency but the complete shutdown of government for a drawn out Presidential election?
The Vice President, who we elect as Speaker, would ascend in your system, and he would have no more direct a mandate than the current system. And if I understand your proposal correctly, the Vice President would name a successor that would ascend if he could not...correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't one man choosing a successor even less democratic than the current system of 100 men and women who form a representative sample of the voting public? Doesn't this make your system both less efficient AND less democratic?" There is some general muttering of approval, much of it from the ELP section of the Assembly. Sykes can't be sure, but he thinks that the backbencher may be attempting to bait him into a corner where he can really put him down for the count.
Jim makes a mental note that if he does become president, he will have this ELP backbencher executed. Nay, rather than a mental note, he pauses to write it down.
"So per backbencher. You are telling me that our system, where, in your own admittance, we've had five presidents, is a good system?
Whatever, I'm not here to debate the constitutional inefficiency of our system. But the People are certainly tired of this unstable mess we find ourselves in. Since the untimely death of Gen. Levarge, we've been in a governmental decline. And NO, I'm not calling for a return to a dictatorship, but certainly I think the people will agree that we need some form of accountability.
Our current system, wisely accepted by this Assembly, did not forsee the farce of our disappearing presidents. We need to stop this madness. And yes, I believe that if both the elected president and the vice-president disappear, it is time to call a new government election.
Once we fall down two or three rungs down the ladder, the whole notion of the elected president and cabinet becomes a farce......
....now, if there is no other issue, perhaps we can move to vote."
"So per backbencher. You are telling me that our system, where, in your own admittance, we've had five presidents, is a good system?
Whatever, I'm not here to debate the constitutional inefficiency of our system. But the People are certainly tired of this unstable mess we find ourselves in. Since the untimely death of Gen. Levarge, we've been in a governmental decline. And NO, I'm not calling for a return to a dictatorship, but certainly I think the people will agree that we need some form of accountability.
Our current system, wisely accepted by this Assembly, did not forsee the farce of our disappearing presidents. We need to stop this madness. And yes, I believe that if both the elected president and the vice-president disappear, it is time to call a new government election.
Once we fall down two or three rungs down the ladder, the whole notion of the elected president and cabinet becomes a farce......
....now, if there is no other issue, perhaps we can move to vote."