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Serpent said:
Don't be a Grammar Naci (National-Communist), it's bad enough that you're a pseudo-anarchist. You know what I meant. That the soldiers of the capitalist states are slaves, enslaved by the evils inherent in the system.


But capitalism runs on blood, my brother! How can you fail to understand that? Capitalism by its very nature makes war inevitable. Capitalism fuels greed, hate and envy. Capitalism makes all men into enemies, the winners into masters and the losers into slaves. Capitalism is in fact a state of war of all men against each other. We can not coexist with capitalism. And though in time it will fall by the weight of its own corruption it will inflict so much suffering and degradation upon the world before that time that it will make the wars I seek seem mild and loving by comparison.
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We do not know the future. Capitalism shall one day be overcome, but it is not for us to rip it apart until no more blood flows. We do not have the right to kill these innocent 'slave-soldiers'.

Does our state not fuel its machinery with cash, just like the capitalists do? If capitalism makes war inevitable, so does Trotsky, who sees that the only way to solve the issues of humankind is bloodshed.
How do they differ, they shed blood for different ideals, yet everywhere the poor and ignorant suffer due to their misrule! Trotskyism fuels bloodshed, hatred and violence!

Wars are never mild to those who suffer for them. We have no rights, the state has no rights to inflict more inhuman casualties upon the mankind!
Stop the violence, stop wars!

Do not vote for Trotsky's wars!
VOTE FOR DEMOCRATIC ANARCHISTS!
 
In all of the revolutions around the world, were the capitalist armys not slave-soldiers as well? Just because its the Red Army doing the battle and not the local proletarians, does not mean its somehow tyrannical and inhumane.

If war means global socialism, then it is justified.
 
Lenin Cat said:
In all of the revolutions around the world, were the capitalist armys not slave-soldiers as well? Just because its the Red Army doing the battle and not the local proletarians, does not mean its somehow tyrannical and inhumane.

If war means global socialism, then it is justified.
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Nothing ever justifies a war. Nothing. There is no such thing as a just war. Proletarians dying, so that our magnificent politicians may bask in glory? Farmers forced into arms, so that arms industry gets more subsidies?
Try better.

Secure peace, vote for Democratic Anarchists!
 
Enewald said:
Nothing ever justifies a war. Nothing. There is no such thing as a just war. Proletarians dying, so that our magnificent politicians may bask in glory? Farmers forced into arms, so that arms industry gets more subsidies?
Try better.

Secure peace, vote for Democratic Anarchists!
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Yes there is, its called world wide socialism.

What makes you think that revolutions done by the local proletarian do less bloodshed then the Red Army? Were did you learn this? Both revolution and war are bloody.
 
Lenin Cat said:
Yes there is, its called world wide socialism.

What makes you think that revolutions done by the local proletarian do less bloodshed then the Red Army? Were did you learn this? Both revolution and war are bloody.
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Indeed. It could even be said that a short, swift attack by the Red Army is much more preferable to a long, protracted and bloody civil war. One must look at the long history of civil war in China to see that mere rebellions there cost millions of lives, never mind a revolution that will completely annihilate the establishment.
 
By your thinking, comrade Enewald, nothing is worth dying and killing for. If nothing justifies war then nothing justifies revolution. If people like you had their way there wouldn't be a VSVR and no hope for the suffering masses of the world.
 
Serpent said:
By your thinking, comrade Enewald, nothing is worth dying and killing for. If nothing justifies war then nothing justifies revolution. If people like you had their way there wouldn't be a VSVR and no hope for the suffering masses of the world.
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Moderate pace and sane reforms that avoid bloodshed?
Revolution can be achieved without war. We just need to be less hasty and accept that a new world order is not build within a day.

The purpose of life is not to die for international revolution. We live to prosper and enjoy our existance, not to kill and die.
Therefore the state has no rights to order violence in the name of the revolution.

Revolution is justified just as it is immanent, war is not required in order to achieve peace.
If people like me had our way, there would be less belligerent fools crying out for war.

We can spread the truth and we can help the world, we not need guns and blood to achieve a better future.

Vote for Democratic Anarchists!
A vote not fur us is a vote for Trotsky!
 
Although Comrade Enewald makes a strong case for the D-A's as anti-Trotskyist, they don't go far enough. The state allowed the butcher Trotsky to come to power; the state must come down.
Anarcho-Kadonists
 
Marxist-Leninists

The world must be made safe for Socialism.
 
Red Cesar said:
Maybe since Trotsky is in power, a little Trotsky-Stalin role reversal would be in order for this timeline...
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Or maybe it wouldn't. That's a terrible idea.
 
Enewald said:
Moderate pace and sane reforms that avoid bloodshed?
Revolution can be achieved without war. We just need to be less hasty and accept that a new world order is not build within a day.

The purpose of life is not to die for international revolution. We live to prosper and enjoy our existance, not to kill and die.
Therefore the state has no rights to order violence in the name of the revolution.

Revolution is justified just as it is immanent, war is not required in order to achieve peace.
If people like me had our way, there would be less belligerent fools crying out for war.

We can spread the truth and we can help the world, we not need guns and blood to achieve a better future.

Vote for Democratic Anarchists!
A vote not fur us is a vote for Trotsky!
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Why do you think civil war revolutions are less bloody then war! For gods sake!

Socialism cannot be won at a ballot box, for the bourgeois will sabotage there chances, and if they do win they will start the civil war.
 
Lenin Cat said:
Why do you think civil war revolutions are less bloody then war! For gods sake!

Socialism cannot be won at a ballot box, for the bourgeois will sabotage there chances, and if they do win they will start the civil war.
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Then what about Krakow? Or Bavaria? The communists in both of these places won power without violence, and they both petitioned to join us, again without violence.

I'm sick and tired of hearing people say "socialism requires blood" when there have been good examples, such as these, that prove that socialism can be won through the democratic principles that they are ment to be following.
 
What makes you all so sure that the Democratic Anarchists won't be forced into a war? Their victory could be viewed in the Anglo countries (or Asian empires, for that matter!) as a sign of weakness, leading to a... humbling experience for the would-be pacifists.


Actually, that sounds like quite a good idea.
 
Seek75 said:
Then what about Krakow? Or Bavaria? The communists in both of these places won power without violence, and they both petitioned to join us, again without violence.

I'm sick and tired of hearing people say "socialism requires blood" when there have been good examples, such as these, that prove that socialism can be won through the democratic principles that they are ment to be following.
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Perhaps it was because they were scared of the violence.


The issue is, bourgeosi democracy isnt democracy.
 
So, any guesses on who's gonna win? :D
I'm thinking the Drunk Anarchists (DAs).

Serpent said:
Don't be a Grammar Naci (National-Communist).
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I'm gonna be picky here and point out that Communist is spelled with a K as its first letter in german.
So, yeah, me being the above.
 
I vote for the National Communists.

((And let me just note here for the record that voting for f*****g Hitler's f*****g mentor is the most hardcore example of role-playing I ever had to deliver.))
 
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