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Machiavellian said:
Best Character in an AAR: Umm.. Umm.. I liked the recent characterization of Pavel Skiedweza in "Fire Warms the Northern Lands" -- A Prussian AAR by Rensslaer
Wow! Only an hour old (postwise) and Pavel is already someone's hero! :D

Thank you, Machiavellian! I rather enjoyed writing for him. I can guarantee he will show up at least once more. Probably more. He may even become a recurring character for the next couple of decades... we shall have to see!

Renss
 
Very nice Renss. A nice picture of the state of the Poles while also letting us know that Prussia is allowing voting rights. I think both men, in the end, will be disappointed as neither will see a free Poland anytime soon.
 
A very interesting pair, and the different perspective is quite fresh. I do not quite remember, but the business with Vicky notwithstanding is this actually the first time you have narratively portrayed some of Prussia's opponents, even of such a lowly (yet very representative) sort?
 
stnylan said:
A very interesting pair, and the different perspective is quite fresh. I do not quite remember, but the business with Vicky notwithstanding is this actually the first time you have narratively portrayed some of Prussia's opponents, even of such a lowly (yet very representative) sort?
A very good question. Mine is a rather atypical AAR, and I have actually done this before. The first, I think, was Sergeant Chapelle, one of the invading French soldiers, who has become a recurring character. There have been a couple others, I think. Like General Sheridan (USA), etc.

Skiedweza will be our second recurring Polish character. The first being a Prussian cavalry officer, Franzsiske Grzybowski, who became Friedrich Wilhelm's first aide-de-camp.

BBBD, not sure about Krakow. I suspect so, but I cannot say for sure. I seem to recall someone tried that in an AAR.

Thanks everybody!

Rensslaer
 
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Well Rens, this is a great update. Definitely one of my favourite now. It always amaze me how your stories run so smoothly like the river flows(Vistula river :D ). I think i should read it again......
 
Chapelle of course! stupid me. Mind you, I have completely forgotten about Sheridan.
 
From The Eagle Rising: The Story of Prussia's Arrival On the World Stage, pub. 1989 by Professor Reinicke Herz

In August and September of 1884, there were seen several weeks of what we would now call “trial balloons” in the German press. It should have been obvious, and was to most, that these stories were at the behest of the Kaiser, because the Prussian press had always been controlled by the government.

The Kaiser made an announcement from the steps of the Honenzeilern Schloss (the Kaiser’s palace), before a crowd of tens of carefully guarded thousands of German citizens on the Unter den Linden, stretching its entire length to the Brandenburg Gate. Criers and pamphlets were provided for those who were too far away to hear. That soon meant virtually everybody, as the cheering drowned out even the Kaiser’s strong voice.

The Prussian Kings and Kaisers had always ruled by decree, so it was of some irony that Kaiser Friedrich III decreed that he would adopt a constitution, and that the people of Germany – all of them, by universal suffrage – would be allowed to vote.

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Also of irony was that the decision was not forced upon the Kaiser. It, in fact, was an initiative of his own. To some – republicans and conservatives alike – it was simply a confirmation of his liberal ideals for which he had been known since he was a young man. To others – some who had been led astray by some of his more typically Prussian behaviors, and some who simply could not conceive of a Kaiser, or even a Prussian, having anything to do with liberal ideals – the Kaiser’s move toward democracy was a shock.

It should be noted that many of Germany’s provinces were already accustomed to elections, and had chafed under the resumption of autocratic rule when they came to be under Prussian dominion. Oldenburg, Frankfurt, Denmark, the French provinces, and several others of the smaller German states had developed a tradition, however short, of democratic rule at some times earlier in the 19th Century.

In truth, while Friedrich’s political reforms were as far reaching in impact as had been his social reforms earlier in the decade, they did not instantly remake Prussia into an avatar of freedom. All German newspapers remained subject to censorship and other government controls. Only about five political parties were allowed to exist, and the Socialist Party and other parties of more leftist leanings were strictly banned. Friedrich also expressed vehement opposition to trade unions, as they were normally associated in some manner with the socialists.

Nevertheless, the mere act of allowing popular opinion into the halls of government instantly improved Prussia’s relations with the more liberal powers of Europe. At the same time, the act was viewed with consternation in authoritarian countries, most particularly Tsar Alexander III’s Russia, and Emperor Franz Josef’s Austria.
 
Power to the People....

Would this minor shift to the liberal side affect the 'Holy Alliance'? The story is for you, Rens to tell.
 
prussiablue said:
Power to the People....

Would this minor shift to the liberal side affect the 'Holy Alliance'? The story is for you, Rens to tell.
I actually think it would have shattered any serious alliance Prussia could have made...

But, considering that Prussia's badboy has been so high, there haven't been any allies for some time! :rofl: Except, of course, for the satellite powers, which remain under the Prussian thumb no matter what.

Thanks for asking!

Renss
 
Wait, doesn't allowing Universal Suffrage make the country a democracy? Or do you have to free the press too?

Anyway, I always do that with Germany after I unify. Go ConMon, I mean. A Democratic Germany? How absurd! :p

By the way, sent that telegram to Munich yet? :D
 
Rocketman said:
Wait, doesn't allowing Universal Suffrage make the country a democracy? Or do you have to free the press too?

Anyway, I always do that with Germany after I unify. Go ConMon, I mean. A Democratic Germany? How absurd! :p
Hmm... Most constitutional monarchies in real life have universal suffrage, so I'd think not.

However, since the game doesn't really model kings and queens and all that -- it's assumed instead -- then I guess I assumed that the Kaiser was still in power, though potentially subject to the whim of the legislature.

In any case, this AAR assumes Prussia remains a Constitutional Monarchy.

Renss
 
I wonder if the move isn't also a little Bismarckian in strategic terms - give it to them before they start asking, thus looking strong rather than weak. It may not assist with relations to other nations, but as you say - that matters little at this point. Shoot, if the debt wasn't so high - I'd say take it to the BWB!
 
Is that forshadowing a war with those two autocratic powers I wonder though? That would not be a pleasant war that is for sure. As for democracy, will the Kaiser rue this generosity? If he doesn't then his descendents assuredly will do so.
 
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For the past three days, reports had been reaching Vienna – the seat of Habsburg power – that demonstrations, riots and revolts were occurring here and there throughout the far-flung Austro-Hungarian Empire. The news of democratic reforms in Germany had set all of Austria’s constituent ethnicities to demanding the same. It wasn’t just the usual places. Poles had risen up in Przemyst and Tarnow, Ukrainians in Lemberg, and Slovenes in Laibach. There were violent protests not just in Budapest, but in Vienna and Graz. The news had stirred a long-dormant movement for independence in Croatia. And there were similar reports coming in from more remote locations. The people of Austria were abuzz. And all at once, this time – not as in the past. Not, at least, since 1867 when unrest had resulted in the weakening compromise that empowered the Hungarians at Austria’s expense.

“Father,” Archduke Rudolf addressed Emperor Franz Josef. “Kaiser Friedrich is recognizing the mood of his country. We must recognize our citizens’ mood. We…” His father was studiously ignoring him. Rudolf sighed. “At least we can offer more independence to satisfy the ethnic lands.”

“Why are you here?!” the Emperor asked his son, his moustache and sideburns shaking with vehemence. The 26-year-old archduke had every right, by protocol, to attend at court. But Franz Josef really had no interest in hearing his son’s liberal ideas. And his age didn’t lend much gravity to his opinions. How dare he! “There was no ‘mood’ to recognize until this happened!” On the other hand, Rudolf was the heir to the throne, and needed to be present at these difficult discussions. Franz Josef visibly halted his temper. “Forgive me, son.” He looked into the distance for a few counts. “You know I have tried to do so – to come to accommodation with our minorities – but the Hungarians will not allow it!”

“We could actively engage the Hungarians in helping us restore order,” War Minister Agaszy suggested. “It would strengthen our strongest link of empire while suppressing the weakest.”

Foreign Minister Thaunberg contested, “They would ask a price – yet another – and our empire would be weaker in the long run.”

Franz Josef sighed with frustration and shook his head. “Our government is a Frankenstein.”

The archduke nodded agreement. “And, if I don’t miss my guess, we may see the same end.” He ignored his father’s admonishing glance.

“All the more reason to use our military advantage and establish our authority, Mein Emperor.” Seeing his emperor unmoved, Agaszy struck off on a new tack. “If we can threaten an anti-socialist war against the Prussians – demand that they return to an absolute monarchy – then we could use the environment to stabilize and reform the Empire. Otherwise, I fear we are lost.”

“Minister, is that even realistic?” Thaunberg was accustomed to political battles with the War Minister. It was nice to have the Archduke’s support – such as it was – but he was not yet strong enough to take Agaszy on. “How would it be practical to demand of the Germans that they take back such a move? Moreover, how would we justify that to our own people? It would be impossible!”

“We could approach Tsar Alexander, and see if he would join us!”

“He would more likely take advantage of our weakness and try to rip our Slavic provinces from us.”

“Emperor,” Agaszy returned to the most pliable man in the room. “I must emphasize the importance of having a ready martial force. We must mobilize.”

“Father, I must express my extreme reservations about this.”

Agaszy had nothing more to say. All of the ministers awaited the Emperor’s response.

“I am not comfortable with this!” Franz Josef had rarely had the strength or inclination to make the hard decisions. “There are too many questions.”

“Emperor! If we do nothing, we are lost!”

“Do it!” Franz Josef stormed. “Mobilize the Army. If we can’t make a war, then perhaps they will save us from a civil war.”
 
Silly Big White Blobians...they know not what they do. I was all ready to suggest that Prussia take advantage of their weakened state (perhaps another reason for the reforms - to assist in the Austrian collapse) but it seems the Emperor is willing to do that for Prussia. Really...how kind of them. :D
 
Kinda like standing up and waving for the sniper's attention, this is. I never knew the BWB had this kind of deathwish. Well, now that they do, who better to serve them their wish than Prussia, eh? ;)
 
Rensslaer said:
...Also of irony was that the decision was not forced upon the Kaiser. It, in fact, was an initiative of his own...

...“Do it!” Franz Josef stormed. “Mobilize the Army. If we can’t make a war, then perhaps they will save us from a civil war.”
YES! ConMon is the way to go! :D

what is to happen to Austria-Hungry? guess we will have to stay tuned... :D but, i look forward to it! :cool:

excellent! ! ! ! :)
 
Open mouth, insert foot I think pretty much sums it up - though if Austria and Russia do go offering a war I think it could still be a pretty tough fight - and I wonder if France might not try to reclaim her honour at the other end of Europe.

A very good discussion, especially the way it slowly expands outwards from the Emperor and Archduke so as not to swamp us.