Ok, let's analyze your remarks and complaints in detail, Nats.
I have been trying this mod along with SKIF graphics mod and have found a few problems with the compatibility.
First off, it's rather clear that if you use two different mods you'll find some differencies between them, i.e. the first mod will have its features while the second will have its own. The problem is, rather, historical plausibility. Let's see it:
It seems that the Tripartite mod has included with it a redundant models.csv file that changes the names of seversal units - the ones I have noticed are the Desert Fox Hurricane interceptors being replaced with Spitfires, and German 1944 FW190s being changed to ME109s for some reason. Anyway it radically affects the realsim of the game in my opinion. I would imagine the Hurricanes are correct for this time period as I rmember seeing them have aboukir filters fitted for use in deserts whereas desert spit mark 5s came along later. I cant imagine Germany used ME109s much in 1944 either compare to its much better FW190s.
I'll quote myself from another thread, where you wrote almost the same thing:
Sorry to contradict you, but I did that on purpose.
In vanilla AoD, Eng interceptors are the Hurricane, Tempest and Typhoon, while Spitfires are regarded as multi-role fighters. Now, if we bear in mind that multi-role fighters, in RL as well as in game, were/are much more suited for ground attack missions (i.e. carrying bombs and rockets) then the Tempest and Typhoon make much more sense; considering them interceptors (i.e., more than the Spitfire) is wrong, IMO.
So, it's the Tripartite Pack airplanes which are correctly identified, not SKIF's.
The fact that you saw Hurricanes in Africa means little to nothing: the game, unfortunately, has only a limited number of aircraft models represented for each country and there is a choice to be done. As written above, though, Tempests and Typhoons aren't surely to be considered bomber interceptors more than Spitfires were - hence my moving them to the Fighters cathegory while making Spitfires the "primary" Interceptors.
About the Fw190/Bf 109 issue: just as NiL_FisK|Urd wrote, Bf 109 has been in production until the very end of the war with its final version, the
Bf 109K (Kurfürst), being an exceptional airplane (just think that its rate of climb was superior to all Allied adversaries including the P-51D Mustang, Spitfire Mk.XIV and Hawker Tempest Mk.V). Again, as for the Spifires, the matter is the same: the Bf 109K fits better in the Int cathegory. In any case, Germany's Fig III in the Tripartite Pack is the Fw190D, so in 1944 you'll see both Messerschmitts and Focke-Wulfs roaring over Europe.
(Later edit: I've checked the list of aircraft I've changed from vanilla and, while British fighters and interceptors are partially swapped, I've made no changes to the first tiers of German int/fig. So I don't know where you got the impression that I changed Germany's 1944 aircraft from).
It also messes up all the unit b&w photo pictures as well it seems. So I have removed this CSV file from my Tripartite mod and the mod seems to now work well with SKIF and the revised coloured unit pictures that SKIF includes. I dont know why all these names have been changed but I dont think the Spit was ever classed as an bomber interceptor - this was always the job of the Hurricanes. The CSv file doesnt seem relevant to AoD now anyway so it is relatively safe to remove as far as I know.
It doesn't "mess up" anything, on the contrary: I've matched all the model names I've changed with the corresponding pictures, so this must be a result of your overwriting one mod with the other. As for the Spitfire "
not ever being classed as a bomber interceptor":
Wiki said:
The Spitfire was designed as a short-range, high-performance interceptor aircraft by R. J. Mitchell, chief designer at Supermarine Aviation Works (which operated as a subsidiary of Vickers-Armstrong since 1928). The Spitfire's elliptical wing had a thin cross-section, allowing a higher top speed than several contemporary fighters, including the Hawker Hurricane. Speed was seen as essential to carry out the mission of home defence against enemy bombers.
In addition: have you ever noticed that the
perfectly matching SKIF icons do display Stukas as
biplanes...?
Just thought you would want to know. I havent looked into this matter fully yet so it could be only those two instances that were changed and the rest of the countries are fine. I only really notice England and Germany I dont know much about anyone elses planes.
Thank you for your remarks! I already knew this, however. I spent much time on this mod and, while there can be (and surely are) some inconsistencies (
although, apart from graphics and audio, those few airplanes are almost the only thing I've changed from vanilla AoD), the Fig/Int issue is not one of them, at least when keeping in mind that one has to deal with the limited choices the game offers. I hope you'll be able to appreciate all the other features contained in my mod, apart from airplanes which you obviously don't like
Titan79 maybe you could make pictures for the straits of Gibraltar, Marmara, Suez channel and panama channel.
Sure - send me some good pictures, or links to them, and I'll do it!
