Re: Re: Yugoslav leaders file????
I'll probably get sacked next week so I'll have a lot of free time.
I wouldn't go so far as calling him a fascist, only a war criminal.
Point is he was nobody, hardly a person for ministry, if communist Yugoslavia really wanted him they would succeeded in extradition like they got Andrija Artukovic.
There was much more hard evidence for Dujic extradition (including order signed by his alleged arch enemy Ante Pavelic of safe passage of Dinara division through NDH to Italian border) then for Andrija Artukovic, only Dujic was smart enough not to mess with Jews (not many lived in Knin area anyway) and limit himself to Croats and communist of all nations - last one was very popular in post war US.
There were several more both ustasha and chetnik leaders who managed to get to US, some even joined US armed forces and fought in Korea.
Andrija Stampar
"Professor Andrija Stampar (1888-1958) was our leading authority in the field of epidemiology and a pioneer in preventive medicine. As an expert of the League of Nations he spent three years (1933-1936) in China eek: event idea China get Penecilin?), developing the health service there. During the WW2 he was arrested by the German Nazis and kept in custody in Graz in Austria. He was one of the founders of the World Health Organization (WHO) and very active in promoting the health service in Afghanistan, Egypt, Sudan and Ethiopia. He wrote the introductory declaration of the Statute of the WHO and was the first president of this organization. In 1955 he was awarded the medal of Leon Bernard, which is the most prestigeous international acknowledgement in the field of social medicine. For more details see his book The first ten years of the World Helth Organization, Geneva, 1958."
Edo Bogdan Markovitch
nothing on the net... I'll let you know if the old fashion way of digging through book get me anything
Michel Yovanovitch (his first hame is probably Mihail instead)
or more likely Mihailo or Mihajlo Jovanovic, unfortunately very common name in Serbia...
Momchilo Nintchitch / dr. Momcilo Nincic alredy in my mod Foreign Minister
"Ph.d. Momcilo NINCIC, University Professor, politician. Born in Jagodina on 10 June 1876. Died in Lausanne in 1949. Went to school in Belgrade. Studied law and took a doctor's degree in Paris (1899). Secretary in the Ministry of Finance from 1899. Professor at the Faculty of Law of the Grande Ecole (University) in Belgrade from 1902. Minister of Finance, with a short interval, from 1915 to 16 August 1919. Minister of Justice from 19 February to 31 March 1920. Minister of Trade and Industry from 31 March 1920 to 1 January 1921. Minister for Foreign Affairs from 1 January 1922 to 27 July 1924 and from 6 November 1924 to 6 December 1926. Chairman of the Financial Commission of the League of Nations (1923 - 4th Session). At the 6th Session, nominated Chairman of the Disarmament Commission (1925); in 1926 elected President of the 7th Session of the League of Nations. Minister for Foreign Affairs from 27 March 1941 to 1 January 1943 (Yugoslav Government in London).
Active supporter of alliances between European States, such as the Little Entente, and of the idea of a united Europe ("Pan-Europa").
Leading member of the Radical Party. Elected Member of Parliament several times. From 1921 edited the review "New Life".
Author of a large number of works. Books: Method of Direct Taxation in Serbia (1903); Agreement on Customs between Serbia and Bulgaria (1904); The Monetary Question (1920); The Foreign Policy of the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes, 2 vols.; La Crise Bosniaque (1908-1909) et les Puissances Europeennes, Paris, 1937, etc."
Hopefully my mod will be done soon, but I got dozens of open events yet to be finish.
Originally posted by birch23
I admit that Yugoslavija is one of the nations along with Croatia which needs a lot of help..so I'm glad you have surfaced.
I'll probably get sacked next week so I'll have a lot of free time.
Originally posted by birch23
Unfortunately it isn't much we have done with that file,and we do not have the luxury of establishing a Chetnik Gov etc.so we will have to do with what we have.In my notes I have written that perhaps we should change Yugoslavia to a mixture of LC/PC and the introduce a real fascist gov.replac instead...this one should have Dujic in it,,but this is only on the thinking stadium.
I wouldn't go so far as calling him a fascist, only a war criminal.
Originally posted by birch23
I'm afraid that if we applied to harsh a moral view none of those who was in the Yugoslav Theatre would ever be admitted in..it was quite a bloody mess with atrocities on all sides.
Point is he was nobody, hardly a person for ministry, if communist Yugoslavia really wanted him they would succeeded in extradition like they got Andrija Artukovic.
Originally posted by birch23
As for Dujic himself (no I do not particularly like him...incontrast actually) but again I have applied the golden rule,that the US refused to extradite him.I believe the main reasons was. 1/ He would not get a fair trial, and 2/The US did not find proof enough for his "crimes" (Personally I disagree a lot with the last point)And since he was not convicted of anything it is not up to us to be the moral judges.(I think we should stick to the other Golden Rule...that this is only a game..and a good and fun game so let us keep it there.).
There was much more hard evidence for Dujic extradition (including order signed by his alleged arch enemy Ante Pavelic of safe passage of Dinara division through NDH to Italian border) then for Andrija Artukovic, only Dujic was smart enough not to mess with Jews (not many lived in Knin area anyway) and limit himself to Croats and communist of all nations - last one was very popular in post war US.
There were several more both ustasha and chetnik leaders who managed to get to US, some even joined US armed forces and fought in Korea.
Originally posted by birch23
But since you are here now... I have found these Yugoslavian politicians:
Andrija Stampar
"Professor Andrija Stampar (1888-1958) was our leading authority in the field of epidemiology and a pioneer in preventive medicine. As an expert of the League of Nations he spent three years (1933-1936) in China eek: event idea China get Penecilin?), developing the health service there. During the WW2 he was arrested by the German Nazis and kept in custody in Graz in Austria. He was one of the founders of the World Health Organization (WHO) and very active in promoting the health service in Afghanistan, Egypt, Sudan and Ethiopia. He wrote the introductory declaration of the Statute of the WHO and was the first president of this organization. In 1955 he was awarded the medal of Leon Bernard, which is the most prestigeous international acknowledgement in the field of social medicine. For more details see his book The first ten years of the World Helth Organization, Geneva, 1958."
Edo Bogdan Markovitch
nothing on the net... I'll let you know if the old fashion way of digging through book get me anything
Michel Yovanovitch (his first hame is probably Mihail instead)
or more likely Mihailo or Mihajlo Jovanovic, unfortunately very common name in Serbia...
Momchilo Nintchitch / dr. Momcilo Nincic alredy in my mod Foreign Minister
"Ph.d. Momcilo NINCIC, University Professor, politician. Born in Jagodina on 10 June 1876. Died in Lausanne in 1949. Went to school in Belgrade. Studied law and took a doctor's degree in Paris (1899). Secretary in the Ministry of Finance from 1899. Professor at the Faculty of Law of the Grande Ecole (University) in Belgrade from 1902. Minister of Finance, with a short interval, from 1915 to 16 August 1919. Minister of Justice from 19 February to 31 March 1920. Minister of Trade and Industry from 31 March 1920 to 1 January 1921. Minister for Foreign Affairs from 1 January 1922 to 27 July 1924 and from 6 November 1924 to 6 December 1926. Chairman of the Financial Commission of the League of Nations (1923 - 4th Session). At the 6th Session, nominated Chairman of the Disarmament Commission (1925); in 1926 elected President of the 7th Session of the League of Nations. Minister for Foreign Affairs from 27 March 1941 to 1 January 1943 (Yugoslav Government in London).
Active supporter of alliances between European States, such as the Little Entente, and of the idea of a united Europe ("Pan-Europa").
Leading member of the Radical Party. Elected Member of Parliament several times. From 1921 edited the review "New Life".
Author of a large number of works. Books: Method of Direct Taxation in Serbia (1903); Agreement on Customs between Serbia and Bulgaria (1904); The Monetary Question (1920); The Foreign Policy of the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes, 2 vols.; La Crise Bosniaque (1908-1909) et les Puissances Europeennes, Paris, 1937, etc."
Hopefully my mod will be done soon, but I got dozens of open events yet to be finish.