((Rapop101 Doesn't it seem unlikely that a courtier can fund an entire printing press? The printing press that Chancellor Huntingdon wants to build costs 200 ducats... How can a courtier afford such a high sum?))
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((my many thanks to @delpiero1234 and @TheM for being great co judges (sorry we finished without you M, we didn't want the case dragging on forever), and to @ThePatriotOfDreumel for Henry Walpole and first Witness, @Luftwafer for Alexander Mordaunt and @SpKampfer for being witnesses 2 and 3))
It was a sunny day in the capital of England, but not so much for Alexander Mordaunt, the Count of Gloucestershire. He was on trial for the assassination attempt on Henry Walpole, the Count of Meath. Present were Judge Clifford and Judge Bourchier who were later on joined by Judge Matthew Lancaster, Crown Prince of England.
Judge Bourchier: Alexander Mordaunt, Count of Gloucestershire, you are here before the court under the charge of attempted murder, by the hiring of assassins, to kill Henry Walpole, Count of Meath, how do you plead?
Alexander Mordaunt: I plead not guilty, Your Honour! These accusations are false!
Judge Clifford: Sir Walpole, would you please tell us your account of what happened to you?
Count Walpole: I just came back from the trial about Christian Morgan’s forgery, when I found 3 assassins in my bedroom. Two of them were too scared to attack me, and one stabbed me but fell out of a window after only stabbing me in the leg. 4 more were apparently hunted down by the guards. Later that same week I hired some investigators to find whoever tried to assassinate me, while I went on a holiday in Portugal after a terrible month.
Judge Clifford: And how about you finding out that Count Mordaunt hired the assassins to kill you? Can you provide us with any provide linking him to the hiring of the assassins?
Count Walpole: The investigators found out the owner of a mercenary company and got him to talk about who hired him to do the assassinations, and got this paper with everyone who hired assassins there. The latest hirer was Count Alexander Mordaunt. We wanted the assassin to be a witness, but due to trying to stab an investigator he was killed.
Henry hands over the paper with the hirers details
Judge Bourchier: Very well, Count Walpole, you may be seated, unless you have anything else that may further confirm what you have said.
Henry Walpole: I do, but I won’t use them if not necessary. I’m busy and want this trial to go fast.
Judge Clifford: If you have other accounts of this story, it might be better for this case if you would inform the court of this. Otherwise you would be holding back information from this court, which is surely not something you wish to do.
Henry Walpole: I will call forward one of my witnesses, the lead investigator of the case.
Judge Bourchier: Please bring forth the first witness, may you state your name and occupation
Richard Curius: I am Richard Curius, and I am an investigator.
Judge Bourchier: please recount to the court what happened to yourself at the time in question.
Richard Curius: I was send with 2 guards to go investigate in the city of Gloucestershire. We went into a local tavern where a man we do not know was kind enough to tell us about the company. At the company the man seemed friendly to us, but when we started asking questions he started to respond aggressively. Using some of our tricks to get him talking about whoever hired him, he said that count Alexander Mordaunt was the hirer. After that he gave us the papers with all hirers of his company of assassins, after which we wanted to take him to Dublin where he would stay until this trial. In response, he violently swung a sword towards me, barely missing, after which he got killed by the guards. The papers were already handed to you by count Walpole, I assume.
Judge Clifford: So, mister Curius, you were hired by Count Walpole to investigate this issue, is it not?
Richard Curius: Yes, I was.
Judge Clifford: And the only person who would be able to confirm your story got killed when he attacked you and your men?
Richard Curius: Yes, he did, but my men would be able to confirm the story too.
Judge Clifford: Mister Curius, I am afraid I am not aware of your status and whether your story can be validated. As you said yourself, you have been hired by the accuser to investigate this incident. The papers presented to us by Count Walpole could have easily been created or falisfied and there is no way for us to find out if that is true or not. Or could you provide us with someone or something independent of this story?
Richard Curius: I could show you the place where the company used to be, but it’s hard to find someone independent of the case in a closed room in an alley. About being hired, this is the job that I do for a living, and not asking money for this case would be bad for my family. You could also ask the peoples of Gloucestershire about the company, some would be able to show where it was, and it would be the same as the one I would show, unless there are more of these kinds of companies in Gloucestershire, which I doubt.
Judge Bourchier: That won’t be necessary, but I thank you for your assistance to the progression of the case, that will be all. I hereby ask Count Mordaunt to come to the stand. How to you plead?
Count Mordaunt: well I pled innocent, and that still stands, these accusations are baseless and cruel
Judge Bourchier: how do you respond to such accusations about your person, what is your version of events?
Count Mordaunt:Well the first I heard about these accusations were when I was arrested while playing with my infant son. I was not aware that I was being accused of anything until my servant told me there were men at the door and they wanted me to go with them.
Judge Bourchier: You plead innocence, and a legitimate reasoning to be above this claim, but please tell the court why you are upon the list of the clientele of these would be assassins?
Count Mordaunt: Well I feel that the Count's evidence is faulty to say the best, the one independent witness is currently dead. That sheet of paper could be easily forged, as the Honourable Clifford said. I believe that the Note is forged, and either the Investigator or more likely the Count is attempting to frame me for this crime. I would like to question the likelihood of entering a bar and immediately meeting somebody who knew the Assassin. Also why was Gloucestershire the natural first place to look? I feel this is a character assassination, and I am being framed. That is all.
Judge Bourchier: As Judge Clifford has distanced himself from proceedings for now, I called upon Crown Prince Matthew to preside as a substitute Judge in his place.
Judge Lancaster: I believe it is time to call the other two guards who were with the investigator as witnesses, to see if the gentleman indeed speaks true. Aaron Fry, please step forward.
Aaron Fry: Good Day your Honour, My name is Aaron Fry and I work as a guard of Richard Curius
Judge Lancaster: Mr Fry, what can you tell us about the incident?
Aaron Fry: Well, Our boss Mr Richard told us that we had some business to do in Gloucestershire and that they may be some problems so we needed to stay alert. We went to some tavern and the boss started to talk with one guy, I can say he was very nervous at that moment...almost scared. He gave the boss some paper and while he was reading it, the guy tried to attack the boss but we intervened on time.
Judge Bourchier: What did you do exactly?
Aaron Fry: He almost killed the boss, so we had to kill him instead (
Judge Bourchier: Would it have not been better, do you think now looking back on it, if you had merely incapacitated the gentleman, rather than kill him outright?
Aaron Fry: You may think that, but that place was full of shady people, we didn’t know what he could have done to the boss, he could have had some hidden blade or something.
Judge Lancaster: Can you confirm that the assassin you had slain was involved on the attack on Count Walpole?
Aaron Fry: I remember that the boss asked him about some assassination, he looked nervous as I said before and started to talk about a plot or something, but I don’t remember hearing any names.
Judge Bourchier: Thank you for your time Mr Fry. Please may the third, and final, witness be called to the stand. May you state your name and your occupation.
Allistair Suggit: Yes your Honour, My name is Allistair Suggit and I am just a guard at the service of Richard Curius.
Judge Lancaster: Were you present during the incident at the compound of the assassin?
Allistair Suggit: I was your honour, me and my partner Aaron saved Mr Curius of a certain death
Judge Lancaster: What happened at the compound? Why was the assassin not taken prisoner?
Allistair Suggit: Well, i remember that we went to Gloucestershire to escort Mr Curius, we followed him to some building, where he started to talk with one guy, i can tell you he was very nervous. While he was interrogating him, the guy drew out his blade and attacked him, there was not time to subdue him without putting in risk the life of Mr Curius, which is what i was paid for.Judge Bourchier: I see, can you recall any details from the interrogation?
Allistair Suggit: I cannot say I do, that place gave me the creeps and i was just focussed on getting out off there.
Judge Bourchier: Thank you Mr Suggit. I see, I will now discuss with my fellow judges to see if you this seems plausible.
Judge Lancaster: How do you plead, James?
Judge Bourchier: I must say my Prince, that with the indecision of the case presented by the prosecution, I personally can not bring myself to see their arguments as valid, so I would suggest a ruling of not guilty to Count Mordaunt.
Judge Lancaster: I agree, James. The chief-investigator is the only witness that can confirm what Count Walpole is claiming and given that the investigator has been hired by the count I see a potential conflict of interest. Therefore, I plead not guilty also.
Judge Bourchier: Very well my Prince, but before I announce this verdict, I would recommend your mother to detain Count Walpole until further notice for a slander towards the good Count here, I hope that I can pass eventually an Act that can allow the monarch to directly charge a subject, should the charges be immediately obvious, thereby avoiding this hassle, should something like a slander case come up again.
Judge Lancaster: I do not believe that Count Walpole is to be accused of slander. On top of that, the court has been busy enough lately.
Judge Bourchier: Very well, my Prince,I shall now announce the verdict of this trial now then.
Judge Bourchier: We have decided. Count Mordaunt, and so we hereby charge you as Not Guilty, you are hereby acquitted of any charges hereby outlined in this case, and you may walk from this courtroom as a free man. Good bye, good sir.
It was a sunny day in the capital of England, but not so much for Alexander Mordaunt, the Count of Gloucestershire. He was on trial for the assassination attempt on Henry Walpole, the Count of Meath. Present were Judge Clifford and Judge Bourchier who were later on joined by Judge Matthew Lancaster, Crown Prince of England.
Judge Bourchier: Alexander Mordaunt, Count of Gloucestershire, you are here before the court under the charge of attempted murder, by the hiring of assassins, to kill Henry Walpole, Count of Meath, how do you plead?
Alexander Mordaunt: I plead not guilty, Your Honour! These accusations are false!
Judge Clifford: Sir Walpole, would you please tell us your account of what happened to you?
Count Walpole: I just came back from the trial about Christian Morgan’s forgery, when I found 3 assassins in my bedroom. Two of them were too scared to attack me, and one stabbed me but fell out of a window after only stabbing me in the leg. 4 more were apparently hunted down by the guards. Later that same week I hired some investigators to find whoever tried to assassinate me, while I went on a holiday in Portugal after a terrible month.
Judge Clifford: And how about you finding out that Count Mordaunt hired the assassins to kill you? Can you provide us with any provide linking him to the hiring of the assassins?
Count Walpole: The investigators found out the owner of a mercenary company and got him to talk about who hired him to do the assassinations, and got this paper with everyone who hired assassins there. The latest hirer was Count Alexander Mordaunt. We wanted the assassin to be a witness, but due to trying to stab an investigator he was killed.
Henry hands over the paper with the hirers details
Judge Bourchier: Very well, Count Walpole, you may be seated, unless you have anything else that may further confirm what you have said.
Henry Walpole: I do, but I won’t use them if not necessary. I’m busy and want this trial to go fast.
Judge Clifford: If you have other accounts of this story, it might be better for this case if you would inform the court of this. Otherwise you would be holding back information from this court, which is surely not something you wish to do.
Henry Walpole: I will call forward one of my witnesses, the lead investigator of the case.
Judge Bourchier: Please bring forth the first witness, may you state your name and occupation
Richard Curius: I am Richard Curius, and I am an investigator.
Judge Bourchier: please recount to the court what happened to yourself at the time in question.
Richard Curius: I was send with 2 guards to go investigate in the city of Gloucestershire. We went into a local tavern where a man we do not know was kind enough to tell us about the company. At the company the man seemed friendly to us, but when we started asking questions he started to respond aggressively. Using some of our tricks to get him talking about whoever hired him, he said that count Alexander Mordaunt was the hirer. After that he gave us the papers with all hirers of his company of assassins, after which we wanted to take him to Dublin where he would stay until this trial. In response, he violently swung a sword towards me, barely missing, after which he got killed by the guards. The papers were already handed to you by count Walpole, I assume.
Judge Clifford: So, mister Curius, you were hired by Count Walpole to investigate this issue, is it not?
Richard Curius: Yes, I was.
Judge Clifford: And the only person who would be able to confirm your story got killed when he attacked you and your men?
Richard Curius: Yes, he did, but my men would be able to confirm the story too.
Judge Clifford: Mister Curius, I am afraid I am not aware of your status and whether your story can be validated. As you said yourself, you have been hired by the accuser to investigate this incident. The papers presented to us by Count Walpole could have easily been created or falisfied and there is no way for us to find out if that is true or not. Or could you provide us with someone or something independent of this story?
Richard Curius: I could show you the place where the company used to be, but it’s hard to find someone independent of the case in a closed room in an alley. About being hired, this is the job that I do for a living, and not asking money for this case would be bad for my family. You could also ask the peoples of Gloucestershire about the company, some would be able to show where it was, and it would be the same as the one I would show, unless there are more of these kinds of companies in Gloucestershire, which I doubt.
Judge Bourchier: That won’t be necessary, but I thank you for your assistance to the progression of the case, that will be all. I hereby ask Count Mordaunt to come to the stand. How to you plead?
Count Mordaunt: well I pled innocent, and that still stands, these accusations are baseless and cruel
Judge Bourchier: how do you respond to such accusations about your person, what is your version of events?
Count Mordaunt:Well the first I heard about these accusations were when I was arrested while playing with my infant son. I was not aware that I was being accused of anything until my servant told me there were men at the door and they wanted me to go with them.
Judge Bourchier: You plead innocence, and a legitimate reasoning to be above this claim, but please tell the court why you are upon the list of the clientele of these would be assassins?
Count Mordaunt: Well I feel that the Count's evidence is faulty to say the best, the one independent witness is currently dead. That sheet of paper could be easily forged, as the Honourable Clifford said. I believe that the Note is forged, and either the Investigator or more likely the Count is attempting to frame me for this crime. I would like to question the likelihood of entering a bar and immediately meeting somebody who knew the Assassin. Also why was Gloucestershire the natural first place to look? I feel this is a character assassination, and I am being framed. That is all.
Judge Bourchier: As Judge Clifford has distanced himself from proceedings for now, I called upon Crown Prince Matthew to preside as a substitute Judge in his place.
Judge Lancaster: I believe it is time to call the other two guards who were with the investigator as witnesses, to see if the gentleman indeed speaks true. Aaron Fry, please step forward.
Aaron Fry: Good Day your Honour, My name is Aaron Fry and I work as a guard of Richard Curius
Judge Lancaster: Mr Fry, what can you tell us about the incident?
Aaron Fry: Well, Our boss Mr Richard told us that we had some business to do in Gloucestershire and that they may be some problems so we needed to stay alert. We went to some tavern and the boss started to talk with one guy, I can say he was very nervous at that moment...almost scared. He gave the boss some paper and while he was reading it, the guy tried to attack the boss but we intervened on time.
Judge Bourchier: What did you do exactly?
Aaron Fry: He almost killed the boss, so we had to kill him instead (
Judge Bourchier: Would it have not been better, do you think now looking back on it, if you had merely incapacitated the gentleman, rather than kill him outright?
Aaron Fry: You may think that, but that place was full of shady people, we didn’t know what he could have done to the boss, he could have had some hidden blade or something.
Judge Lancaster: Can you confirm that the assassin you had slain was involved on the attack on Count Walpole?
Aaron Fry: I remember that the boss asked him about some assassination, he looked nervous as I said before and started to talk about a plot or something, but I don’t remember hearing any names.
Judge Bourchier: Thank you for your time Mr Fry. Please may the third, and final, witness be called to the stand. May you state your name and your occupation.
Allistair Suggit: Yes your Honour, My name is Allistair Suggit and I am just a guard at the service of Richard Curius.
Judge Lancaster: Were you present during the incident at the compound of the assassin?
Allistair Suggit: I was your honour, me and my partner Aaron saved Mr Curius of a certain death
Judge Lancaster: What happened at the compound? Why was the assassin not taken prisoner?
Allistair Suggit: Well, i remember that we went to Gloucestershire to escort Mr Curius, we followed him to some building, where he started to talk with one guy, i can tell you he was very nervous. While he was interrogating him, the guy drew out his blade and attacked him, there was not time to subdue him without putting in risk the life of Mr Curius, which is what i was paid for.Judge Bourchier: I see, can you recall any details from the interrogation?
Allistair Suggit: I cannot say I do, that place gave me the creeps and i was just focussed on getting out off there.
Judge Bourchier: Thank you Mr Suggit. I see, I will now discuss with my fellow judges to see if you this seems plausible.
Judge Lancaster: How do you plead, James?
Judge Bourchier: I must say my Prince, that with the indecision of the case presented by the prosecution, I personally can not bring myself to see their arguments as valid, so I would suggest a ruling of not guilty to Count Mordaunt.
Judge Lancaster: I agree, James. The chief-investigator is the only witness that can confirm what Count Walpole is claiming and given that the investigator has been hired by the count I see a potential conflict of interest. Therefore, I plead not guilty also.
Judge Bourchier: Very well my Prince, but before I announce this verdict, I would recommend your mother to detain Count Walpole until further notice for a slander towards the good Count here, I hope that I can pass eventually an Act that can allow the monarch to directly charge a subject, should the charges be immediately obvious, thereby avoiding this hassle, should something like a slander case come up again.
Judge Lancaster: I do not believe that Count Walpole is to be accused of slander. On top of that, the court has been busy enough lately.
Judge Bourchier: Very well, my Prince,I shall now announce the verdict of this trial now then.
Judge Bourchier: We have decided. Count Mordaunt, and so we hereby charge you as Not Guilty, you are hereby acquitted of any charges hereby outlined in this case, and you may walk from this courtroom as a free man. Good bye, good sir.
((Unfortunate that Walpole was not accused of slander. I'm sure Christian would have loved a new cellmate))
Following an intensive investigation, without being caught, Graham Hudson, son of Count Hudson, had failed to find any information regarding "Gilbert St. Gilbert".
Through bribery and eavesdropping, it was almost as if he never existed.
He did, however, come across something even better.
Documents linking Morgan to the assassination attempts on Crown Prince Matthew, letters between him and Count Lloyd, connecting him as well.
And, although bribery revealed Morgan's displeasure with Count Walpole, nothing linking him to the attempts on Walpole's life.
((Approved by del))
Through bribery and eavesdropping, it was almost as if he never existed.
He did, however, come across something even better.
Documents linking Morgan to the assassination attempts on Crown Prince Matthew, letters between him and Count Lloyd, connecting him as well.
And, although bribery revealed Morgan's displeasure with Count Walpole, nothing linking him to the attempts on Walpole's life.
My queen,
I have found descive evidence linking Count Morgan to the attempt on Prince Matthews life! It seems he was plotting with Count Lloyd to end the life of Prince Matthew! We must arrest Lloyd and prepare for another trial!
I have included the documents in question in this letter, as well as some noting his displeasure with Count Walpole, Although nothing linking him the Walpole attempts.
Graham Hudson.
I have found descive evidence linking Count Morgan to the attempt on Prince Matthews life! It seems he was plotting with Count Lloyd to end the life of Prince Matthew! We must arrest Lloyd and prepare for another trial!
I have included the documents in question in this letter, as well as some noting his displeasure with Count Walpole, Although nothing linking him the Walpole attempts.
Graham Hudson.
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((If you wanted us to help you shouldn't have done it at like 3:00 CET. Also, is the letter that @themoomaster send public knowledge?))
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After the meeting of the former STC, I believe that it may be in the interest of the crown if there was a legal basis for confiscating the property of criminals.
Confiscation of Criminal Property Act
1. In the event that someone commits a crime in the medium property or above or two crimes in the low category, the crown will have the right to confiscate their assets (excluding land).
2. In the event that someone is legally executed by the crown, the crown will have the right to confiscate all assets in stead of standard inheritance.
3. This shall not affect criminals who have already been sentenced as prior legislation to a crime should be required in a just society.
Confiscation of Criminal Property Act
1. In the event that someone commits a crime in the medium property or above or two crimes in the low category, the crown will have the right to confiscate their assets (excluding land).
2. In the event that someone is legally executed by the crown, the crown will have the right to confiscate all assets in stead of standard inheritance.
3. This shall not affect criminals who have already been sentenced as prior legislation to a crime should be required in a just society.
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Mister Arantxex,
I would like to buy the remaining 4% shares of the Royal English Trading Company.
Trade is of utmost importance for our nation and being able to contribute to that would support my ideals towards this country.
Awaiting your response,
William Clifford, Count of Cumbria, Lord of Mann and Judge of the Court of England
I would like to buy the remaining 4% shares of the Royal English Trading Company.
Trade is of utmost importance for our nation and being able to contribute to that would support my ideals towards this country.
Awaiting your response,
William Clifford, Count of Cumbria, Lord of Mann and Judge of the Court of England
Mister Arantxex,
I would like to buy 15% of shares of the Euskal Biscayan Company.
I feel trading with our Iberian friends is of big importance to our country.
Awaiting your response,
William Clifford, Count of Cumbria, Lord of Mann and Judge of the Court of England
I would like to buy 15% of shares of the Euskal Biscayan Company.
I feel trading with our Iberian friends is of big importance to our country.
Awaiting your response,
William Clifford, Count of Cumbria, Lord of Mann and Judge of the Court of England
((I've made it into two letters to make the distinction clear. If my first letter is better directed towards the Crown, then it should be considered as such.))
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((private))
To the Queen,
I would like to purchase 4% of the shares in this new company, I am a diplomat and I would like to be able to branch out into Trade Company
~Count Alexander
To the EBC
I would like to purchase 10% of he shares of this company, I would like to branch out to trade Companies. As a diplomat I think trade can help foster good relations with other nations.
~Count Alexander
To Count Walpole
You have caused me a lot of emotional distress with your unfounded claims. I request 5% of your shares in every trading company you hold shares. I feel this is fair for the slanderous claims you have Laid at my door.
~Count Alexander
To the Queen,
I would like to purchase 4% of the shares in this new company, I am a diplomat and I would like to be able to branch out into Trade Company
~Count Alexander
To the EBC
I would like to purchase 10% of he shares of this company, I would like to branch out to trade Companies. As a diplomat I think trade can help foster good relations with other nations.
~Count Alexander
To Count Walpole
You have caused me a lot of emotional distress with your unfounded claims. I request 5% of your shares in every trading company you hold shares. I feel this is fair for the slanderous claims you have Laid at my door.
~Count Alexander
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To the dishonourable count Mordaunt,
I won't give you anything, you pathetic criminal scum. You probably feel how it hurts now!
- Henry Walpole, earl of Dublin and the Pale.
That man must be absolutely crazy! Walpole couldn't believe it. He would just ignore him from now on.
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((No. Why would it be? He sent it to the Queen!. This brings me to this post:
((Thanks))
((We will start a new voting round later today.))
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((To Graham Hudson))
((To Count Mordaunt))
((To CoF Talbot))
((Public))
Oliver Talbot, Count of Caux, Commander of the Forces, General of the English Royal Army, is hereby declared as Duke of Normandy, a hereditary title that was previously held by Queen Elizabeth Talbot.
~ Francis Thompson, Royal Advisor
((Public))
Arthur Lloyd and Christian Morgan are hereby declared as as enemies of the state for having committed treason. They have the right to a fair trial which is to be held in London within a fortnight.
~ Francis Thompson, Royal Advisor
((@Stingrex please let me know if Arthur Lloyd wishes to escape so I do a RNG roll))
Morgan and Lloyd?! These are some shocking news that you bring to my attention, Graham Hudson. For that you have my gratitude. Count Morgan will be interrogated shortly given that is already imprisoned for a different crime. I have CoF Talbot tos seize Arthur Lloyd for treason.
Make sure to stop by the royal palace the next time you visit the capital because you shall receive 13 ducats for sending me these documentations.
~ Elizabeth Talbot, Queen of England, Archduchess of Austria, Duchess of Normandy
Make sure to stop by the royal palace the next time you visit the capital because you shall receive 13 ducats for sending me these documentations.
~ Elizabeth Talbot, Queen of England, Archduchess of Austria, Duchess of Normandy
((To Count Mordaunt))
Please contact the Master of Coin for the acquisition of any potential stocks as I currently am too busy to deal with this matter my self. Something unexpected has popped up which now requires my full attention.
~ Elizabeth Talbot, Queen of England, Archduchess of Austria, Duchess of Aquitaine and Duchess of Normandy
~ Elizabeth Talbot, Queen of England, Archduchess of Austria, Duchess of Aquitaine and Duchess of Normandy
((To CoF Talbot))
Oliver,
I order you to seize Arthur Lloyd for treason. Bring him to the capital were he shall be given a short trial prior to his execution. Should he prove to be uncooperative then your men may kill the traitor.
Furthermore, you are hereby appointed as Duke of Normandy as a reward for you continuous loyalty towards the Crown and service as CoF and general. I also have not forgotten that you gave up your STC shares to make the founding of the ERTC possible.
~ Elizabeth Talbot, Queen of England, Archduchess of Austria, Duchess of Aquitaine and Duchess of Normandy
I order you to seize Arthur Lloyd for treason. Bring him to the capital were he shall be given a short trial prior to his execution. Should he prove to be uncooperative then your men may kill the traitor.
Furthermore, you are hereby appointed as Duke of Normandy as a reward for you continuous loyalty towards the Crown and service as CoF and general. I also have not forgotten that you gave up your STC shares to make the founding of the ERTC possible.
~ Elizabeth Talbot, Queen of England, Archduchess of Austria, Duchess of Aquitaine and Duchess of Normandy
((Public))
Oliver Talbot, Count of Caux, Commander of the Forces, General of the English Royal Army, is hereby declared as Duke of Normandy, a hereditary title that was previously held by Queen Elizabeth Talbot.
~ Francis Thompson, Royal Advisor
((Public))
Arthur Lloyd and Christian Morgan are hereby declared as as enemies of the state for having committed treason. They have the right to a fair trial which is to be held in London within a fortnight.
~ Francis Thompson, Royal Advisor
((@Stingrex please let me know if Arthur Lloyd wishes to escape so I do a RNG roll))
((At The Royal Assembly))
Shortly after Queen Elizabeth had been handed the documents that denounce Christian Morgan and Thomas Lloyd of committing treason, she left Westminster Palace to attend the assembly. This time there were eight acts to vote on, two of these acts had been proposed by the young and ambitious Alexander of Huntingdon. Both of his acts concerned the clergy, one came with an amendment.
Explorer Wilhelm Hayk was concerned with the stability of the realm and hence he presented a so-called Sheriff's Act.
General Hudson was concerned that the establishment of the Grand College in London was not enough to make non-Englishmen learn English.
Henry Walpole, Count of Dublin, must have believed that the royal treasury has money to waste when he proposed the founding of a security agency.
Duke Oliver Talbot proposed multiple acts:
Elizabeth was looking forward to what could be an interesting discussion among the delegates. She believed that some of these acts could cause controversy.
((
Moral Standards Act: Yes / No / Abstain
Second Moral Standards Act: Yes / No / Abstain
Sheriff Act: Yes / No / Abstain
Cultural and Lingual Integration Act: Yes / No / Abstain
BSA: Yes / No / Abstain
Honourable Correspondance Act: Yes / No / Abstain
Confiscation of Criminal Property Act: Yes / No / Abstain
False Accusation Act: Yes / No / Abstain
The deadline for this vote is: Saturday at 19:00 CET))
Shortly after Queen Elizabeth had been handed the documents that denounce Christian Morgan and Thomas Lloyd of committing treason, she left Westminster Palace to attend the assembly. This time there were eight acts to vote on, two of these acts had been proposed by the young and ambitious Alexander of Huntingdon. Both of his acts concerned the clergy, one came with an amendment.
Explorer Wilhelm Hayk was concerned with the stability of the realm and hence he presented a so-called Sheriff's Act.
General Hudson was concerned that the establishment of the Grand College in London was not enough to make non-Englishmen learn English.
Henry Walpole, Count of Dublin, must have believed that the royal treasury has money to waste when he proposed the founding of a security agency.
Duke Oliver Talbot proposed multiple acts:
Elizabeth was looking forward to what could be an interesting discussion among the delegates. She believed that some of these acts could cause controversy.
((
Moral Standards Act: Yes / No / Abstain
Second Moral Standards Act: Yes / No / Abstain
Sheriff Act: Yes / No / Abstain
Cultural and Lingual Integration Act: Yes / No / Abstain
BSA: Yes / No / Abstain
Honourable Correspondance Act: Yes / No / Abstain
Confiscation of Criminal Property Act: Yes / No / Abstain
False Accusation Act: Yes / No / Abstain
The deadline for this vote is: Saturday at 19:00 CET))
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((Well, looks like I came online just after Del's post. Here's to my vote
Moral Standards Act: Yes
Second Moral Standards Act : Yes
Sheriff Act: Yes (Sidenote: is Sheriff an appropriate title for this? I get a very American feel, but I could be mistaken
)
Cultural and Linguistic Integration Act: No
The British Security Agency (BSA): Yes (while a waste of money, I think it will open a bunch of fun narrative possibilities, MI6/Scotland Yard style)
Honourable Correspondence Act: Yes
Confiscation of Criminal Property Act: Yes (I do hope that the right to take assets doesn't mean we always take everything. But for example enough to cover damages and return stolen wares and such. Fully stripping would needlessly harm their relatives and offspring that may have nothing to do with it.
False Accusation Act: No (there's a reason you can try for slander separately. Same punishment makes no sense to me, especially if someone would be tried based on something not true.)
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As per usual, a huge number of matters were to be decided upon. As the last couple of times, Renato did not have much trouble with the votes, it was clear to him what he should vote. While a devout man, he had seen the damning influence of the human element in the church and any proposal limiting individual power of bishops and introducing more oversight he welcomed with open arms. A stout defender of the rights to education, the second act had his support two. Additionally there were three proposals involving law enforcement and seeing the recent conspiracies and heinous acts of men with power, Renato could get behind more morale oversight. He only hoped that the institutions themselves would stay from corruption. The only proposal that really ruffled his feathers was the Cultural and Linguistic Integration Act. While the title of the act made a poor attempt at hiding its intentions, the wording left nothing to the imagination. This was a proposal for state
sanctioned assimilation and genocide for those that do not conform. The fact that the text did mentioned that people are things you conquer was enough in his eyes to see the dark path this would set any country upon. Renato only made his home here because he believed England to potentially be a progressive state. Not a fascistic regime that looks to mold the people into mindless drones.
And with that he sent out his votes. For the benefit of the Queen and the country.
Moral Standards Act: Yes
Second Moral Standards Act : Yes
Sheriff Act: Yes (Sidenote: is Sheriff an appropriate title for this? I get a very American feel, but I could be mistaken
)Cultural and Linguistic Integration Act: No
The British Security Agency (BSA): Yes (while a waste of money, I think it will open a bunch of fun narrative possibilities, MI6/Scotland Yard style)
Honourable Correspondence Act: Yes
Confiscation of Criminal Property Act: Yes (I do hope that the right to take assets doesn't mean we always take everything. But for example enough to cover damages and return stolen wares and such. Fully stripping would needlessly harm their relatives and offspring that may have nothing to do with it.
False Accusation Act: No (there's a reason you can try for slander separately. Same punishment makes no sense to me, especially if someone would be tried based on something not true.)
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As per usual, a huge number of matters were to be decided upon. As the last couple of times, Renato did not have much trouble with the votes, it was clear to him what he should vote. While a devout man, he had seen the damning influence of the human element in the church and any proposal limiting individual power of bishops and introducing more oversight he welcomed with open arms. A stout defender of the rights to education, the second act had his support two. Additionally there were three proposals involving law enforcement and seeing the recent conspiracies and heinous acts of men with power, Renato could get behind more morale oversight. He only hoped that the institutions themselves would stay from corruption. The only proposal that really ruffled his feathers was the Cultural and Linguistic Integration Act. While the title of the act made a poor attempt at hiding its intentions, the wording left nothing to the imagination. This was a proposal for state
sanctioned assimilation and genocide for those that do not conform. The fact that the text did mentioned that people are things you conquer was enough in his eyes to see the dark path this would set any country upon. Renato only made his home here because he believed England to potentially be a progressive state. Not a fascistic regime that looks to mold the people into mindless drones.
And with that he sent out his votes. For the benefit of the Queen and the country.
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- May 6, 2015
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Moral Standards Act: Yes
Second Moral Standards Act : Yes
Sheriff Act: Yes
Cultural and Linguistic Integration Act: No
The British Security Agency (BSA): Yes
Honourable Correspondence Act: Yes
Confiscation of Criminal Property Act: Yes
False Accusation Act: Yes
- Henry Walpole, participated in 9 votes.
Letter to Arthur Lloyd,
I do not talk to you as fellow count, I talk to you as a cousin. I have heard of the claims that you would assasinate the queen, and work together with the same man that tried to have me executed. Although I can forgive you for that. You must have been treathened into doing it by the Morgans. I shall do anything I can to stop this injustice, and shall help you. Not because I want a strong ally across the Irish sea, but to save my cousin.
- Henry
Second Moral Standards Act : Yes
Sheriff Act: Yes
Cultural and Linguistic Integration Act: No
The British Security Agency (BSA): Yes
Honourable Correspondence Act: Yes
Confiscation of Criminal Property Act: Yes
False Accusation Act: Yes
- Henry Walpole, participated in 9 votes.
Letter to Arthur Lloyd,
I do not talk to you as fellow count, I talk to you as a cousin. I have heard of the claims that you would assasinate the queen, and work together with the same man that tried to have me executed. Although I can forgive you for that. You must have been treathened into doing it by the Morgans. I shall do anything I can to stop this injustice, and shall help you. Not because I want a strong ally across the Irish sea, but to save my cousin.
- Henry
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Ah the newest vote in the assembly, finally something familiar where it doesn't look like everyone is trying to kill everyone.
For the first the Moral standards act, he would vote yes. There were no where near enough Clergy and the important ones were either Drunk or accused of serious crimes. The nobles could defiantly help them with the administration.
For the Sheriff act, he voted yes. It would cost not a lot and would catch any hiding traitors. With them being able to be removed, there was no foreseeable downside.
The CLI, Edward once again voted yes. If people learned English then the realm would not be divided between a lot of small cutlers all trying to gain dominance, though it may be harmful at the begining it will surely improve.
For the BSA, Edward could not vote yes. It would cost far too much and England's economic situation could not support this. While it may be good, Edward would abstain not wanting to make enemies.
For the HCA, Edward thought that it was good but had some downsides. While a national post service would speed up the delivery of letters. Would it really find traitors content. Surely they wouldn't send it by courier and pigeon, not in the post. Well it would catch the dumb ones and corruption could cause some gaps to appear.
The confiscation of property act, Edward did not need to think about. He would of course vote yes, traitors did not deserve there land.
Both Moral standards act: Yes
Sheriff act: Yes
Cultural linguistic integration act: Yes
British security agency: Abstain
Honorable Correspondence act: Yes
Confiscation of property act: Yes
False Accusation act: No
((It really means how much is a ducat and how rich the country is. Though if it looks like i am god modding, I may change))
For the first the Moral standards act, he would vote yes. There were no where near enough Clergy and the important ones were either Drunk or accused of serious crimes. The nobles could defiantly help them with the administration.
For the Sheriff act, he voted yes. It would cost not a lot and would catch any hiding traitors. With them being able to be removed, there was no foreseeable downside.
The CLI, Edward once again voted yes. If people learned English then the realm would not be divided between a lot of small cutlers all trying to gain dominance, though it may be harmful at the begining it will surely improve.
For the BSA, Edward could not vote yes. It would cost far too much and England's economic situation could not support this. While it may be good, Edward would abstain not wanting to make enemies.
For the HCA, Edward thought that it was good but had some downsides. While a national post service would speed up the delivery of letters. Would it really find traitors content. Surely they wouldn't send it by courier and pigeon, not in the post. Well it would catch the dumb ones and corruption could cause some gaps to appear.
The confiscation of property act, Edward did not need to think about. He would of course vote yes, traitors did not deserve there land.
Both Moral standards act: Yes
Sheriff act: Yes
Cultural linguistic integration act: Yes
British security agency: Abstain
Honorable Correspondence act: Yes
Confiscation of property act: Yes
False Accusation act: No
((I'm calling it all or nothing, every piece of wealth that was gained on the trip to Africa has been spent, this was gold and Ivory. also I do get money from the ship building and shipping business that I own.))
((It really means how much is a ducat and how rich the country is. Though if it looks like i am god modding, I may change))
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((It seems I had forgotten to add the False Accusation Act to the poll. Therefore, I have updated the original voting thread. Players who already voted may edit their post to include their vote on the False Accusation Act by Oliver Talbot.))
((@Rapop101
200 ducats is a lot of money for a courtier. If you and others feel it makes sense RP-wise then I won't intervene as GM. Just pointing out that 200 ducats is much more than a fortune.
We had a trial in which Cardinal Bedford had been sentenced to pay 5 ducats for example and 5 ducats is a lot of money already.))
((@Rapop101
200 ducats is a lot of money for a courtier. If you and others feel it makes sense RP-wise then I won't intervene as GM. Just pointing out that 200 ducats is much more than a fortune.
We had a trial in which Cardinal Bedford had been sentenced to pay 5 ducats for example and 5 ducats is a lot of money already.))
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((For example, Dublin has a basetax of 6 duckats yearly. That would be almost 35 years of income from Dublin before you'll reach 200 duckats. Just pointing out how insane it is.))
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Duke Talbot,
May I congratulate you with your new position as Duke of Normandy.
Your activities to our country are of big value, for which I would also like to thank you.
May God be with you on this new journey,
William Clifford, Count of Cumbria, Lord of Mann and Judge of the Count of England
May I congratulate you with your new position as Duke of Normandy.
Your activities to our country are of big value, for which I would also like to thank you.
May God be with you on this new journey,
William Clifford, Count of Cumbria, Lord of Mann and Judge of the Count of England
Your Majesty,
by the time this letter reaches you, my men will already be on their way to seizing him as they departed almost immediately after I received your letter.
Also, I cannot thank you enough in mere words for your great generosity in granting me the title of Duke. I shall use it to serve you in any way possible.
Oliver Talbot, Commander of the Forces and Duke of Normandy
by the time this letter reaches you, my men will already be on their way to seizing him as they departed almost immediately after I received your letter.
Also, I cannot thank you enough in mere words for your great generosity in granting me the title of Duke. I shall use it to serve you in any way possible.
Oliver Talbot, Commander of the Forces and Duke of Normandy
Although the Moral Standards Act before its amendment could grant too much power to individual counts, the clarification provided by the amendment assured Oliver that this would in fact be beneficial for the country so he decided to vote Yes.
The Second Moral Standards Act seemed to be a good benefit for the English people with little drawbacks aside from requiring the local nobles to fund a good cause so Oliver again voted Yes.
In regards to the Sheriff Act, Oliver believed that anything that ensures the honourable conduct of Englishmen would be wise to implement, even if it had a very small economic cost. ((Yes))
One language, one country. It was a simple Yes to the Cultural and Lingual Integration Act.
Although the British Security Agency would be very expensive, it would protect England against traitors within and dishonourable aggressors without and it could be funded by loyal nobles. Although it would require renaming at a later date to the English Security Agency, Oliver could bring that matter up at a later point. After a great deal of internal debate, Oliver decided to vote Yes.
The other three acts were all his so he voted Yes to all of them.
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Moral Standards Act: Yes
Second Moral Standards Act: Yes
Sheriff Act: Yes
Cultural and Lingual Integration Act: Yes ((Later changed to No))
BSA: Yes
Honourable Correspondance Act: Yes
Confiscation of Criminal Property Act: Yes
False Accusation Act: Yes ))
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