GO GO ARGENTINA GO GO! Argentina must defeat the decadent Brazilian goverment that is trying to flood her! :rofl:
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You will make it... a mountain fortress will surely keep the AI at bay, wouldn't it?
Are there any scripted events in HSR for a victory of any side against the other (Arg or Brazil)??
Are there any scripted events in HSR for a victory of any side against the other (Arg or Brazil)??
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LM+: ..And you were so optimistic just a little while ago! Cheer up - it's all come right in the end (not sayin' for who, though.)
i may be old and senile but i am not blind and stupid (i hope)! ! :rofl: :rofl:
with numbers like you got and numbers like Argentina has, you ain't too far from needing to grab your ankles. that mountain pass that you just put 9 garrisons into may save your bacon, but what if the Argentineans dump three of those 1939 inf divisions somewhere on your very long coastline? ?
oh, excellent update! !
i may be old and senile but i am not blind and stupid (i hope)! ! :rofl: :rofl:
with numbers like you got and numbers like Argentina has, you ain't too far from needing to grab your ankles. that mountain pass that you just put 9 garrisons into may save your bacon, but what if the Argentineans dump three of those 1939 inf divisions somewhere on your very long coastline? ?
oh, excellent update! !
I sure hope Argentina doesn't make use of her transport as landing ships, or else you are in big trouble (like you were not already ).
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*waves his little Argentine flag and then runs off*
You know if everything else fails they can just drown the Brazilian soldiers in their otherwise worthless currency!
You know if everything else fails they can just drown the Brazilian soldiers in their otherwise worthless currency!
Ouch. Never had a DoW from Argentina in my Brazil games. Would seriously crimp my plans (and cause an early exit for me). Good luck!
Vann
Vann
Congo:
elbasto: I certainly hope it will. There are no scripted events in HSR for a victory of either Brazil or Argentina.
GhostWriter, GrimReaper: You are so right about the problems a landing would cause me. Happily, cavalry make good patrollers.
Iron-Chef: Come back! I need conscript labour to dig trenches!
Vann the Red: Well, I did join the Allies, so Argentina gets the Axis. At that point, a war is inevitable (unless we jump ship, which wasn't in the cards).
Alexus: Brazil isn't going to be socialist (quasi or otherwise) for very long.
lifeless: I'll take all the luck I can get!
elbasto: I certainly hope it will. There are no scripted events in HSR for a victory of either Brazil or Argentina.
GhostWriter, GrimReaper: You are so right about the problems a landing would cause me. Happily, cavalry make good patrollers.
Iron-Chef: Come back! I need conscript labour to dig trenches!
Vann the Red: Well, I did join the Allies, so Argentina gets the Axis. At that point, a war is inevitable (unless we jump ship, which wasn't in the cards).
Alexus: Brazil isn't going to be socialist (quasi or otherwise) for very long.
lifeless: I'll take all the luck I can get!
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1939, September 28th:
- Stalin gets his ill-deserved reward; a third of Poland. Five times has Poland been carved up between Germany and the Soviet Union; three times wiped entirely from the map of Europe.
1939, September:
- German subs and Argentinean cruisers choke off our trade with Europe, which leaves us dependant on our allies to provide resources. Just as they did earlier with coal, the Americans reroute their oil to higher bidders, which in turn makes it impossible to support the Brazilian Army off Japanese supplies.
- Itamaraty has gone semi-dormant, its formerly world-spanning web of connections crippled by war and sporadic blockade, its funds diverted to the expanding Army, its energies consumed by the urgent need to stop the resource outflow from getting out of hand, and its best talent eagerly taken up by the fighting services and top research centers. However, the old gang still has a nose for market opportunities, mutual backscratching, and frenzied financing. Somehow, despite Argentinean control of the South Atlantic, our commodities traders have retained a grip on American-Japanese cash flows. We're not sure if we're actually making any profit -- the ships keep getting sunk -- but it does keep our hand in. Itamaraty is quietly supporting Navy expansion...
1939, October 1st:
- The British land troops in Brazil in the form of the Tanganyikan Colonials, militia with artillery support. We're grateful for the assistance of course, but think they would do better in either France or North Africa.
1939, October 12th:
- Vargas attempts to use the outbreak of war as an excuse to put off the elections he promised two years ago. Riots ensue, and he is forced to back down. Humiliated over this and under attack by a hostile Congress, Vargas was unable to stop Eduardo Gomes from winning, first the leadership of the National Democratic Union (the one well-established political party Vargas did not control), then a face-to-face debate broadcast over radio, then the election and the Presidency.
(note: this event replaces the 1939 election event in standard HOI2)
- For almost the first time in Brazilian history, the major parties commanded, not merely regional, but broad national, support, a change important enough that some commentators are calling the era now begun the "New Republic".
- Eduardo Gomes was born in 1896. He has served in military and official positions for the last several decades. In his younger years, he participated in a number of military uprisings, the most important of which in 1930 ended the thoroughly corrupt rule of the coffee elite in favour of Getulio Vargas, who, whatever his faults, at least commanded more-than-regional support. During Vargas' years in office, Gomes switched gears to become a well-respected airforce commander (the best Brazil has, actually). With growing maturity, he is ready to take on larger responsibilities. His background and life experiences have rendered him a Stern Imperialist, skilled at building national strength, but poor at reducing unrest. The election and horse-trading over prime Cabinet positions has incurred a fair amount of this, which, given the pressing need to field the second muster of static infantry divisions, will take time to cure. Gomes takes an early political risk by backing Resource Industrialist Americo de Almeida throughout a series of rather difficult Congressional confirmation hearings, noting that "Almeida will in office mass-produce the tools of victory."
- The loss of skilled Jose de Macedo Soares (and wider political representation) means that Brazil must devote about 40% more production to consumer goods. However, so crippling had Vargas been to our industrial efficiency that Brazil can, despite this, still devote more efforts to winning the war.
- The big win is in production speed. We can immediately build units for about 19% fewer IC/days, and factories and other provincial improvements in 10% less time. Slowly, but surely, Brazil is gearing up.
1939, October 19th:
- Argentinean attempts to rally Integralist support oblige Congress to jail some of our home-grown fascists. Our government shifts leftwards (but is still Market Liberal).
--- discontinuity. universe being rebooted. ---
- The British have been sending an excessive number of men (in unescorted transports!) to Brazil, a front that is already fairly well-protected and the loss of which would not be so serious to Britain as that of France, North Africa, or her homeland itself, all of which stand in need of reinforcement. We tweak British strategic thinking to ignore Brazil and teleport men and ships back to Southampton.
--- end discontinuity. ---
1939, early November:
- The Organizacao Henrique Lage develops Production Planning and immediately begins work on Assembly Line Experimentation. Researching without blueprints like this is costly but mass-production is something we have to have.
- Another 14 garrison divisions assemble in now well-defended Curitiba. With almost all our army (36 divisions, less three for coastal defence) and a growing system of fortifications on mountain terrain, Argentina will think twice and thrice before daring an attack! It has been a frightening early war, but now we have bought ourselves security. It is time to consider larger plans. President Gomes orders the top Brazilian civilian and military security personnel to assemble in his office. Their discussion lasts all morning:
1939, November 17th:
- Stalin, anxious at Hitler's waxing strength and more than willing to expand his own country's borders, has grabbed eastern Poland, then forced Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia to surrender their independence, and now has just declared war on Finland. Between them, Russia and Germany look to dominate everything in Europe east of the Rhine.
1939, December 1st:
- Both our battleships escort all three Brazilian transport flotillas out into the Atlantic, bound for Plymouth. On board are half our available expeditionary troops: Two cavalry-artillery divisions commanded by General Mascarenhas de Morais. Our naval patrol planes report no enemy activity near the coast, but this is still a fairly risky move.
- Stalin gets his ill-deserved reward; a third of Poland. Five times has Poland been carved up between Germany and the Soviet Union; three times wiped entirely from the map of Europe.
1939, September:
- German subs and Argentinean cruisers choke off our trade with Europe, which leaves us dependant on our allies to provide resources. Just as they did earlier with coal, the Americans reroute their oil to higher bidders, which in turn makes it impossible to support the Brazilian Army off Japanese supplies.
- Itamaraty has gone semi-dormant, its formerly world-spanning web of connections crippled by war and sporadic blockade, its funds diverted to the expanding Army, its energies consumed by the urgent need to stop the resource outflow from getting out of hand, and its best talent eagerly taken up by the fighting services and top research centers. However, the old gang still has a nose for market opportunities, mutual backscratching, and frenzied financing. Somehow, despite Argentinean control of the South Atlantic, our commodities traders have retained a grip on American-Japanese cash flows. We're not sure if we're actually making any profit -- the ships keep getting sunk -- but it does keep our hand in. Itamaraty is quietly supporting Navy expansion...
1939, October 1st:
- The British land troops in Brazil in the form of the Tanganyikan Colonials, militia with artillery support. We're grateful for the assistance of course, but think they would do better in either France or North Africa.
1939, October 12th:
- Vargas attempts to use the outbreak of war as an excuse to put off the elections he promised two years ago. Riots ensue, and he is forced to back down. Humiliated over this and under attack by a hostile Congress, Vargas was unable to stop Eduardo Gomes from winning, first the leadership of the National Democratic Union (the one well-established political party Vargas did not control), then a face-to-face debate broadcast over radio, then the election and the Presidency.
(note: this event replaces the 1939 election event in standard HOI2)
- For almost the first time in Brazilian history, the major parties commanded, not merely regional, but broad national, support, a change important enough that some commentators are calling the era now begun the "New Republic".
- Eduardo Gomes was born in 1896. He has served in military and official positions for the last several decades. In his younger years, he participated in a number of military uprisings, the most important of which in 1930 ended the thoroughly corrupt rule of the coffee elite in favour of Getulio Vargas, who, whatever his faults, at least commanded more-than-regional support. During Vargas' years in office, Gomes switched gears to become a well-respected airforce commander (the best Brazil has, actually). With growing maturity, he is ready to take on larger responsibilities. His background and life experiences have rendered him a Stern Imperialist, skilled at building national strength, but poor at reducing unrest. The election and horse-trading over prime Cabinet positions has incurred a fair amount of this, which, given the pressing need to field the second muster of static infantry divisions, will take time to cure. Gomes takes an early political risk by backing Resource Industrialist Americo de Almeida throughout a series of rather difficult Congressional confirmation hearings, noting that "Almeida will in office mass-produce the tools of victory."
- The loss of skilled Jose de Macedo Soares (and wider political representation) means that Brazil must devote about 40% more production to consumer goods. However, so crippling had Vargas been to our industrial efficiency that Brazil can, despite this, still devote more efforts to winning the war.
- The big win is in production speed. We can immediately build units for about 19% fewer IC/days, and factories and other provincial improvements in 10% less time. Slowly, but surely, Brazil is gearing up.
1939, October 19th:
- Argentinean attempts to rally Integralist support oblige Congress to jail some of our home-grown fascists. Our government shifts leftwards (but is still Market Liberal).
--- discontinuity. universe being rebooted. ---
- The British have been sending an excessive number of men (in unescorted transports!) to Brazil, a front that is already fairly well-protected and the loss of which would not be so serious to Britain as that of France, North Africa, or her homeland itself, all of which stand in need of reinforcement. We tweak British strategic thinking to ignore Brazil and teleport men and ships back to Southampton.
--- end discontinuity. ---
1939, early November:
- The Organizacao Henrique Lage develops Production Planning and immediately begins work on Assembly Line Experimentation. Researching without blueprints like this is costly but mass-production is something we have to have.
- Another 14 garrison divisions assemble in now well-defended Curitiba. With almost all our army (36 divisions, less three for coastal defence) and a growing system of fortifications on mountain terrain, Argentina will think twice and thrice before daring an attack! It has been a frightening early war, but now we have bought ourselves security. It is time to consider larger plans. President Gomes orders the top Brazilian civilian and military security personnel to assemble in his office. Their discussion lasts all morning:
1939, November 17th:
- Stalin, anxious at Hitler's waxing strength and more than willing to expand his own country's borders, has grabbed eastern Poland, then forced Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia to surrender their independence, and now has just declared war on Finland. Between them, Russia and Germany look to dominate everything in Europe east of the Rhine.
1939, December 1st:
- Both our battleships escort all three Brazilian transport flotillas out into the Atlantic, bound for Plymouth. On board are half our available expeditionary troops: Two cavalry-artillery divisions commanded by General Mascarenhas de Morais. Our naval patrol planes report no enemy activity near the coast, but this is still a fairly risky move.
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1939, December 10th:
- Just how risky is revealed off the coast of Morocco as a very powerful German surface force finishes off another British convoy and turns its guns on us. In the darkness, German pocket battleships, battlecruisers, heavy cruisers, light cruisers, and destroyers pump explosive iron into our elderly battleships and defenceless transports.
- Four hours of shelling detonate our ammunition transport and cripple the battleship Sao Paulo. As passing Nationalist Spain sailors laugh, we flee south like the guppies we are. Back to Brazil!
1939, December 16th - 20th:
- The German grand fleet is lurking off our coastline; they have moved almost twice as fast as us, clearly informed of our moves either by superior cryptographical skill or old-fashioned educated guessing. In contrast, we found them with airpower: long-range naval patrol craft. Although we get a report of their attacking, naval patrol craft are not designed to actually fight, just spot. And that's what we need! Our transports head, not across the Atlantic to Dakar, but west towards Vancouver, Canada, by way of the Panama Canal.
- ... right into the arms of Argentina.
- Admiral Videla (a better commander than any we have) orders his battleships and cruisers to the kill, closing to point-blank range just before midnight. Lack of Argentinean experience in night fighting rather than any Brazilian skill saves us, but only just barely. Vieja gets word that the Germans have moved offshore and orders flank speed south to Sao Paulo.
- We kiss the sweet earth! No more expeditionary forces from us until the British and French clear the seas!
- Just how risky is revealed off the coast of Morocco as a very powerful German surface force finishes off another British convoy and turns its guns on us. In the darkness, German pocket battleships, battlecruisers, heavy cruisers, light cruisers, and destroyers pump explosive iron into our elderly battleships and defenceless transports.
- Four hours of shelling detonate our ammunition transport and cripple the battleship Sao Paulo. As passing Nationalist Spain sailors laugh, we flee south like the guppies we are. Back to Brazil!
1939, December 16th - 20th:
- The German grand fleet is lurking off our coastline; they have moved almost twice as fast as us, clearly informed of our moves either by superior cryptographical skill or old-fashioned educated guessing. In contrast, we found them with airpower: long-range naval patrol craft. Although we get a report of their attacking, naval patrol craft are not designed to actually fight, just spot. And that's what we need! Our transports head, not across the Atlantic to Dakar, but west towards Vancouver, Canada, by way of the Panama Canal.
- ... right into the arms of Argentina.
- Admiral Videla (a better commander than any we have) orders his battleships and cruisers to the kill, closing to point-blank range just before midnight. Lack of Argentinean experience in night fighting rather than any Brazilian skill saves us, but only just barely. Vieja gets word that the Germans have moved offshore and orders flank speed south to Sao Paulo.
- We kiss the sweet earth! No more expeditionary forces from us until the British and French clear the seas!
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LM+: ... - We kiss the sweet earth! No more expeditionary forces from us until the British and French clear the seas!
what did you lose besides the BB? ?
even so, that was an exciting update! !
what did you lose besides the BB? ?
even so, that was an exciting update! !
Well the navel battles with Argentina, arent doing to good. But nonetheless good update, cant wait for the next.
Wow, I'm amazed. Top-notch, first-class, extremely high quality AAR you got going here. Keep it up!
*runs back in*
HA Argentine arms prove potent indeed!
*waves the flag*
That said, excellent AAR, my favorite at the moment, keep it up!
*leaves before the pro-Brazil mob can swamp him*
HA Argentine arms prove potent indeed!
*waves the flag*
That said, excellent AAR, my favorite at the moment, keep it up!
*leaves before the pro-Brazil mob can swamp him*
Iron-Chef: ..*leaves before the pro-Brazil mob can swamp him*
too late! *throws Iron-Chef into the Everglades, surrounded by alligators*
too late! *throws Iron-Chef into the Everglades, surrounded by alligators*
This must be galling after your experiences running the battlewagons of the British navy in past AARs... Lucky to get home without losing those troops.
Vann
Vann