For the MotAARland (Soviet WIF AAR)

[ozidnz]

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:just great and hilarious :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

 

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I will split the update to two parts. One before June 22, when the Germans attack and the other one after that. As you can probably guess, this is the first one.
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Stalin's movie theater, Spring 1941

Zhukov: Why do we have to come here almost every month to see your stupid plans?

Stalin: Because you're a Red Army General, act like it!

Zhukov: I'll be quiet if I can go and get some popcorn.


Zhukov goes to get some popcorn...


Stalin: Chuikov, your turn to go to the projector room.

Chuikov: Da.

Stalin: Konev, go make sure he doesn't break my expensive projector.

Konev: Very well, komrade.

Stalin: Anyway... everything in Europe was nice and peaceful. The Germans and British just fought in the air. Apparently the Germans got bored of this...

Stalin: First pic Chuikov!


Nothing happens...


Kulik: Press the red button, you caveman!

Stalin: ...So the Germans got really bored and this happened!

Kulik: They dare attack our Slavic brothers!

Stalin: I'm furious too. Once I have my 1000 divisions the Germans are going to pay for this.

Molotov: Next pic Chuikov!

Stalin: Stop hijacking my pic-sessions Molotov!

Molotov: At the same time the Allies kicked Italia out of Albania... Mussolini got humiliated again.

Zhukov: You always just talk about the Italians Molotov.

Molotov: Come on, I want to tell something too.

Konev: And Mussolini was humiliated yet again... the Aussies landed Sardinia!

Molotov: Hey that was my pic!

Zhukov: Hah Molotov, your Italians aren't doing so good!

Molotov: They aren't my Italians!

Stalin: You two fight later... this next pic is very important!


Again, nothing happens... Zhukov is just eating his popcorn...


Stalin: ...We're waiting Chuikov!

Chuikov: Projector thingy stuck... Chuikov kick it!

Everybody: Njjjeeet!!!

Projector: Boom!!!

Stalin: Koneev! You were supposed to watch him!

Konev: Sorry...

Zhukov: Hurray, we can all go home... Well done Chuikov!

 

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I changed the difficulty to the hardest level, so I wouldn't stop the Germans at Poland. So why did I play with normal first and then very hard? Because I want to have more IC than UK before the war, so I can build lots and lots of infantry. Soviet Union isn't anything without a nice, big mass of cheap & useless infantry... Enjoy the update!
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Russia, June 22, 1941

The Red army was spread all over Russia. Units were understrenght and disorganized. Stalin didn't expect the Germans to invade, without dealing with United Kingdom first... apparently he was wrong.

Russian airfields were quicky bombed to useless and the Red Army was caught unprepared. Commanders didn't get orders, so whole armies got encircled and destroyed. Among the first STAVKA orders was: "Do not return fire, avoid provocation!"

Zhukov: They are unstoppable, we are getting pushed back on all fronts!

Molotov: I warned you all, that they would invade, but you wouldn't listen!

Stalin: No you didn't... I always said that the Japanese would invade us someday!

Everybody: What?!?

Stalin: Don't just stand there, get our troops to Siberia!

Molotov: Errm... The Germans are invading us, not the Japanese.

Stalin: Whaaat?!?=##"!#%


Stalin jumps out of the window and runs to a nearby forest...


Voroshilov: It seems, that it's now up to us to stop da Germans.

Voroshilov: Our army is in a mess... da Germans seem to defeat us easily, even if we have three times more men.

Zhukov: We must also transfer our vodka-industry to Siberia, the Germans musn't capture our precious factories!

Molotov: Me and Voroshilov will have to take care of this mess... you Generals go and command your units! (The location of the best Generals is shown on the map )

When Konev arrives to his army, the Germans are already on the offensive!

Komrade Officer #22: I don't get it, even their machineguns pierce our tanks armor! But our AT-shells just bounce off their armor?!

Zhukov: I told Stalin, that we need tanks and airplanes. Many of our soldiers are rebelling and fighting for the Germans!

Restless Soldier #13: We want more vodka!

Zhukov: Shut up!

General Kulik's army is under attack too!

Kulik: What?! you Germans interrupted my army's day-nap!

Germans: Förwardz kameraden!


Kulik throws a Soviet tank at the Germans... it hits and blows up a German tank... BOOM!


Kulik: Kulik angry!!!

Soviet Officer #5: We're out of tanks Komrade General!

Kulik: Fall back, we'll sleep later!



After 10 days of hiding in a forest, Stalin finally returns to the Kreml...

Molotov: Finally you're here! You've been gone for 10 days!

Stalin: I must rally my people... I need a name for my speech!

Voroshilov: Hmm... da Great War, this war surely is a big thing.

Molotov: The people would mistake that for the 1. World War... we need an adjective!

Chuikov: Me bad at wordgames.

Molotov: What are we fighting this war for?

Zhukov: For vodka!

Konev: For Soviet tanks!

Stalin: Yes, for vodka!

Kulik: Zzzz...

Chuikov: Me Chuikov!


Stalin: ...That's two for vodka, I will proclaim the Great Vodka War!

Molotov: You're going to tell the people, that they are fighting for vodka?!

Zhukov: There is nothing more noble than to fight for vodka ...sniff.

Molotov: How about the Great Patriotic War?

Stalin: You just always have to ruin our fun Molotov... fine! But you write the whole speech for me.

Molotov: Very well, Komrade Stalin...


Stalin proclaims the Great Patriotic War and the people start fighting again... 'urraa!!!


Soldier #65: For Mother Russia, komrades!


Meanwhile around Kiev...

Zhukov: We need a victory... we need to prove that the Germans can be beaten, so our komrades see some hope!


Zhukov's army attacks at dawn with air-support...

Zhukov: Boom! There goes another tank... this is the turning point of the Great vod..Patriotic War!

German Panzer IV tanks arrive... Zhukov's tank columm is decimated!

Zhukov: Fall back komrades, we will win someday!



Back at Kreml...

Voroshilov: Da situation is critical! What are your orders Komrade Stalin?

Stalin: I'm having way too much pressure at work... I need a vacation!

Molotov: Our nation is facing the greatest military invasion in history and you want a vacation?!

Stalin: See, that's what I mean by too much pressure!

Molotov: You can't leave the country, the army would collapse!

Stalin: I won't leave my country. I'm just going to have a relaxing, little beach holiday in the warm & excotic city of Smolensk! ...I'll be there for a month.

Molotov: Smolensk doesn't have a b...

Stalin: As I said, I'm going to have a nice beach holiday in Smolensk. Don't try to ruin my vacation, before it even begins!

Molotov: What about your safety?

Stalin: You are responsible for my protection.

Molotov: What?!


Stalin goes to pack his swimwear and sunlotion...

...Zhukov is smiling


Molotov: Whipe that smile off your face Zhukov... this isn't funny!

Molotov: ...You leave me no choice!

Molotov tapes Zhukov's mouth shut!

Zhukov: Mmvvff... Momlotv!

Zhukov tries to tear the tape off...

Zhukov: Aarrgh! It hurts!

The tape stays in place... for now.


Zhukov: I fas m..gonna helf yuh... fut yug can forrfet it nauww!

Molotov: Chuikov, you will help me to protect Stalin, right?

Chuikov: Here some soldier... you their leader.

Molotov tries to command the soldiers

Molotov: Please, don't drink vodka and be silent... you aren't organized enough.

Restless Soldiers: Hahaha... little minister try to command us!


18. July, Zhlobin...

Chuikov: Germans attack with everything... this time we won't run away! Komrades... today we fight!


Can the Soviet army achieve their desperately needed first victory, or will the whole nation collapse?

Will the Germans ruin Stalin's beach holiday?

Can Molotov command his troops?

Will Kulik get more tanks to throw ( literally throw ) at the Germans?

To be continued...

 

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Probably not the Germans cheat lol.

 

[Deus Eversor]

Nice one!
(but i think you could just go for the bring them socialism with finland...)

 

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Nice one!
(but i think you could just go for the bring them socialism with finland...)

It would have been possible, but without the Karelian front the whole Barbarossa thing would be too easy. I plan to play quite historically until I reach Berlin in -45. After that, this AAR will start to make some alternative history.

By historically I don't mean to just wait and advance at the pace as IRL.
Instead I will change difficulties based on my previous experience... for example in the winter -41 I will lower the difficulty to challenge or normal, so I can make some kind of a winter offensive (not easy on unfair ) . But in -43 when the org. of my troops has increased a lot, I will once again raise the difficulty to the hardest, coz at challenge-difficulty I would advance from Kursk to Berlin in 6 months. There might be some little exceptions, but at a large scale the Eastern Front will be pretty historical.

Maybe someday I will make another Soviet WIF AAR and try to beat the Germans as fast as possible, that would be pretty exciting...

 

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It would have been possible, but without the Karelian front the whole Barbarossa thing would be too easy. I plan to play quite historically until I reach Berlin in -45. After that, this AAR will start to make some alternative history.

By historically I don't mean to just wait and advance at the pace as IRL.
Instead I will change difficulties based on my previous experience... for example in the winter -41 I will lower the difficulty to challenge or normal, so I can make some kind of a winter offensive (not easy on unfair ) . But in -43 when the org. of my troops has increased a lot, I will once again raise the difficulty to the hardest, coz at challenge-difficulty I would advance from Kursk to Berlin in 6 months. There might be some little expections, but at a large scale the Eastern Front will be pretty historical.

Maybe someday I will make another Soviet WIF AAR and try to beat the Germans as fast as possible, that would be pretty exciting...

I would be really nice to see how you would achive that. Even with my skills playing as ussr and with a phoney war with finland, which lasted till the start of the war with the germans, before I annexd them and i fotifed with an army of 24 divisions per province with the Jospeh stalin line upgraded to maximum forts and i still could only take scandinavia (attacked sweden), before in the next year the germans attacked a part of the joseph stalin line and have somehow manged to breaktrough.

 

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I would be really nice to see how you would achive that. Even with my skills playing as ussr and with a phoney war with finland, which lasted till the start of the war with the germans, before I annexd them and i fotifed with an army of 24 divisions per province with the Jospeh stalin line upgraded to maximum forts and i still could only take scandinavia (attacked sweden), before in the next year the germans attacked a part of the joseph stalin line and have somehow manged to breaktrough.

You should try the WIF mod, because the fighting on the Eastern front is really different and the AI is better. For example big battles last for a longer time... I remember in my USSR games, that I had battles, that lasted for many months. But this isn't taken too far, as in some mods just 1 division can hold out against 40 for weeks.

In this AAR I have decided to focus more on the characters and story, which means, that I can't focus so much on the gameplay and small details. So another Soviet WIF AAR focused only on gameplay wouldn't be a bad idea.

 

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You should try the WIF mod, because the fighting on the Eastern front is really different and the AI is better. For example big battles last for a longer time... I remember in my USSR games, that I had battles, that lasted for many months. But this isn't taken too far, as in some mods just 1 division can hold out against 40 for weeks.

In this AAR I have decided to focus more on the characters and story, which means, that I can't focus so much on the game play and small details. So another Soviet WIF AAR focused only on game play wouldn't be a bad idea.

Actually the game I talked about is WIF. I don't like the mod because the elastic defense is just too effective and the battles least too long. And the only real way to defeat USSR is by extremely successfully encirclements or "flooding".

 

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Actually the game I talked about is WIF. I don't like the mod because the elastic defense is just too effective and the battles least too long. And the only real way to defeat USSR is by extremely successfully encirclements or "flooding".

I've learned the hard way, that the key to break the enemy lines is to use lots of airsupport, envelopment (when possible) and flanking attacks, when the enemy attacks your provinces. Sometimes it can just be too difficult to advance in any way, so that can happen too.

Defeating USSR is another thing. If you play on challenge, they will spawn a lot of infantry-artillery behind their lines in -41. , As for the encirclements, of course you must do them. Historically I recall, that the Germans encircled 50 divisions just in Kiev. And in total didn't they encircle about 1 million Soviet troops ( about 100 divisions? ).

 

[Deus Eversor]

that happened somewere in belarusia/western ukraine because kiev was the first place where red army actually menaged to do an organized withdraw

 

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that happened somewere in belarusia/western ukraine because kiev was the first place where red army actually menaged to do an organized withdraw

I checked from wikipedia, not the most reliable source, but here it is anyway...

Nearly the entire Southwestern Front of the Red Army was encircled with the Germans claiming 665,000 captured. However, the Kiev encirclement was not complete, and small groups of Red Army troops managed to escape the cauldron days after the German pincers met east of the city, including head quarters of Marshall Semyon Budyonny, Marshall Semyon Timoshenko and Commissar Nikita Khrushchev. Nevertheless, the Kiev disaster was an unprecedented defeat for the Red Army, exceeding even the Minsk tragedy of June-July 1941. On 1st September the Southwestern Front numbered 752-760,000 troops (850,000 including reserves and rear service organs), 3,923 guns & mortars, 114 tanks and 167 combat aircraft.

The encirclement trapped 452,700 troops, 2,642 guns & mortars and 64 tanks, of which scarcely 15,000 escaped from the encirclement by 2nd October. Overall, the Southwestern Front suffered 700,544 casualties, including 616,304 killed, captured, or missing during the month-long Battle for Kiev. As a result, four Soviet field armies (5th, 37th, 26th, & 21st) consisting of 43 divisions virtually ceased to exist. The 40th Army was badly affected as well. Like the Western Front before it, the Southwestern Front had to be recreated almost from scratch.

Sorry, but I wouldn't call that an organized withdrawal, when 43 divisions were destroyed. But anyway I just wanted to make sure that I didn't mistake the Kiev encirclement for something else.

 

[Deus Eversor]

well i am basind on the knowlegde i possesed in discovery channel but it did not sa the numbers
well the major thing that was said there was that it was the first place stalin finaly gave up to his commanders and accepted the withdraw before it was too late...
so i thought that such massive up o 3 million captures where conducted north of kiev

 

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well i am basind on the knowlegde i possesed in discovery channel but it did not sa the numbers
well the major thing that was said there was that it was the first place stalin finaly gave up to his commanders and accepted the withdraw before it was too late...

Yeah, that's true... Stalin began to take his commanders advices more seriously, which helped the Soviet Union a lot in the coming battles.

 

[jonlucero]

Hilarious! :rofl: This thread is keeping me awake! :rofl:

 

[Nathan Madien]

Will Kulik get more tanks to throw ( literally throw ) at the Germans?

Yes! We must move the factories eastward and mass produce tanks! For Kulik! Onwards!

Yeah, that's true... Stalin began to take his commanders advices more seriously, which helped the Soviet Union a lot in the coming battles.

It also helped Stalin that Hitler was inflexible in his military strategy and refused to adjust to changing battle conditions.

 

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In hoi 2 one division is normaly 10 manpower. But in real life, a soviet division at full strenght is bigger than 10k.

 

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Hilarious! :rofl: This thread is keeping me awake! :rofl:

Yes! We must move the factories eastward and mass produce tanks! For Kulik! Onwards!

I'm glad, you like the AAR. The story will continue tomorrow...

It also helped Stalin that Hitler was inflexible in his military strategy and refused to adjust to changing battle conditions.

Indeed, he didn't allow his commanders to do tactical withdrawals, which gave the Germans very little room to manouvre.

In hoi 2 one division is normaly 10 manpower. But in real life, a soviet division at full strenght is bigger than 10k.

If I remember correctly, at least during the Winter War a Soviet division had about 14K men. But on the other hand in -43 and -44, even the Soviets started to have shortages of manpower, so their divisions were understrenght.

 

[jonlucero]

Maybe if they had no Retreat-you-die policy they would have been 1 Battalion stronger during the the -43's thru the -44's. :rofl:

 

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Zhlobin, July 19...

Chuikov: More German keep coming.

Soviet Officer #8: We're low on ammo General and the troops are worn out!

Chuikov: We have to retreat. Hopefully Stalin's beach holiday won't be ruined...


Both sides reorganize their troops, when suddenly the Germans attack the capital of Ukraine, Kiev!

Voroshilov: Kiev is fortified well. This time we must put up a real fight against da Germans!

Molotov: I believe that our troops there won't be enough...

Zhukov: I will go!

Everybody: What?


Zhukov is already gone

Soldiers: Look, it's komrade Zhukov, the hero of the glorious Soviet Union!

Zhukov: My secret vodka stash is here and you Facists won't get it!

Soldiers: For Zhukov and his vodka stash!


The Soviets fight for every house and lots of German tanks get stuck in the Urban enviroment.

The Germans call the attack off after a few hours... it is a small victory, because the Soviets only defeated a small recon force... The Germans are furious about their first minor setback.


German Officer #3: Ach, Ich ist so angry... I wanted Zhukov's vodka ztash zoo bad!

Other Officers: Ja... ja. Our men are angry zoo, zhey needed zhe vodka!
But Ich know! Let'z ask a favor from our gut friend Luft-Marshal Göring!


An hour later...

Göring: Hahaha, this is for Kiev! Yay, I love my job!

T34: Boom!

Soviet tank commander #3: Noouuuu! My customized super-T34!!!

The tank commander had some powerful komrades in the airforce...

Air-General Khudyakov: Komrades, we're going to get Göring, because he wrecked my good komrade's tank!

Soviet pilots: 'Urraa, Göring is going down!

But strangely enough, Göring chickened out and his bombers weren't seen in the air for many days?!

After many retreats Chuikov's armies are once again ready to fight. Every komrade soldier has a rifle and some ammo now...

Chuikov: This time we fight komrades!

Komrade Soldier #53: You said that a week ago!

Chuikov: This time it's for real, like our komrades in Kiev!

Soldiers: 'Urraa... fight for komrade Chuikov!

Chuikov gets support from the Soviet reserve airforce and he even has some tanks now.

'Urraa, the first real victory of the Red Army, Soviet morale rises high!

A second victory is achieved at Roslav, the Germans can be beaten afterall!

But at the same time the Red Army is finally pushed out of Kiev.

Luckily Zhukov managed to get his vodka safe to Siberia though.

German Officer #7: Nein! We can't find ze vodka!

German Soldier #12: Zhat schweinhund Zhukov took ze vodka away from us!

German Officer #3: Get me Herr Göring, schnell!

NKVD Officer #6: Komrade Air-General Khudyakov, Göring's bombers are going to bomb Smolensk and ruin komrade Stalin's beach holiday!

Khudyakov: We cannot allow that to happen!!!

Soviet pilot #2: Njeet, our guns can't pierce their superduper-armor... we are going down like flies!

Göring: Neeiin! We're out of prezious fuel becauze of zhis battle! Return to ze base, schnell!

Khudyakov: Hurray, Stalin's holiday can continue! Well done komrades! ...wait, why are there so few of us left?

General Shaposhnikov: What is this? German tanks blow up on mines and they keep sending more tanks?!

Officer #94: Oh no, they are copying our tactics... this isn't good komrades!


September 1st, Molotov's Top Secret Planning room...

Molotov: Here is the situation on 1st of September. Generals, please report your current situation.

Kulik (Smolensk): I am making sure that those Teutons won't ruin komrade Stalin's holiday!

Chuikov (Klintsy): I hold the line in a big province!

Zhukov (Konotop): I'm in a bad position, waiting for the Germans to attack...

Konev (Kursk): My tanks hold Kursk!

Shaposhnikov (Pskov): Can I join your club too?

Everybody: Get out of here!