EU4 - 1.12 - Idea Changes and New National Ideas
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Yeah, clearly no love to England in this patch.No love for England or Berbers I see
Oh wait ...
Edit : Wiz, can you tell us about Aragonese and Neapolitan Ideas ? We already know about Bavaria though.
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Sad to see that forming Italy still changed Ideas which are in several cases worse than your original one.
Now with IA gone can you at least stay a republic when you form Italy or is it still impossible for catholic Italian republics to claim Rome without penalty?
Now with IA gone can you at least stay a republic when you form Italy or is it still impossible for catholic Italian republics to claim Rome without penalty?
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Well saying 'completely failed to develop its economy' is a bit too much even from an Italian-skeptic for a country which expanded its industrial base significantly in the late 19th, early 20th century, was nearly overrun by Socialists after WW1 and had a quite solid economic development thereafter, not to count the economic boom of post WW2 period.
Absolutely. I for one don't like the the Italian idea set at all, since I dont find it historically plausible nor very immersive when i see things about ancient Rome. However, one must also find a replacement for the set, since merely criticising is quite cheap.
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Aragon
Traditions
Galley Combat Ability: +20.0%
National Trade Income Modifier: +10.0%
- Mercenary Princes: Mercenary Cost: -20.0%
- Protection of the Coastlines: Naval Force Limit Modifier: +25.0%
- Mediterranean Trade: Trade Steering: +20.0%
- Consolidation of the Estates: Stability Cost Modifier: -10.0%
- Chartered Merchant Companies: Global Trade Power: +20.0%
- Reforming the Administration: Monthly Autonomy Change: -0.05
- Protect the Little Folk: Morale of Armies: +10.0%
Culture Conversion Cost: -10.0%
Naples
Traditions
National Spy Defense: +25.0%
Recover Army Morale Speed: +5.0%
- Found the Academy of Naples: Yearly Prestige: +1.00
- Consolidate the Royal Domain: Development Cost: -10.0%
- Encourage City Living: Stability Cost Modifier: -10.0%
- Expand the Arsenale : Naval Force Limit Modifier: +25.0%
- City of Artists: Yearly Legitimacy: +1.00
- Suppress Banditry: Trade Efficiency: +10.0%
- Refurbish the University of Royal Studies: Technology Cost: -5.0%
Yearly Navy Tradition Decay: -1.0%
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Absolutely. I for one don't like the the Italian idea set at all, since I dont find it historically plausible nor very immersive when i see things about ancient Rome. However, one must also find a replacement for the set, since merely criticising is quite cheap.
How about simply keeping the ideas of the founder like when Germany is formed?
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Parliament is not exclusive to England, they just start with it where others have to unlock it with later government forms.
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What Ideas do people without the Expansion get instead of the -Development Cost?
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Are there changes to the Innovative group?
It seems more of an all-rounder group with no special appeal, and compared to most other admin groups who have important niche roles, it can not really compete.
(A shame, because the word innovative sounds so promising.)
It seems more of an all-rounder group with no special appeal, and compared to most other admin groups who have important niche roles, it can not really compete.
(A shame, because the word innovative sounds so promising.)
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My favourites:
Buff to Quality and Naval - yay
Buff to Economic - powerful as hell (and i already thought this is good idea group)
Scotland can be finally bigger challenge for England
Neapolitan ideas buff, finally
Finally alternate way of getting army tradition
HOSTILE CORE CREATION NERFED YESSS
thanks
Semien, Laotian and Pagarruyung NIs are mine
Buff to Quality and Naval - yay
Buff to Economic - powerful as hell (and i already thought this is good idea group)
Scotland can be finally bigger challenge for England
Neapolitan ideas buff, finally
Finally alternate way of getting army tradition
HOSTILE CORE CREATION NERFED YESSS
thanksSemien, Laotian and Pagarruyung NIs are mine
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Looks all very nice.
Has there been any changes to the Dutch nations? I remember for example that Brabant and Flanders had German ideas, is that still the case or did they get their own ideas as well? (If it's still the same, I could post some suggestions in the suggestion forum )
Has there been any changes to the Dutch nations? I remember for example that Brabant and Flanders had German ideas, is that still the case or did they get their own ideas as well? (If it's still the same, I could post some suggestions in the suggestion forum
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Nice to see more ideas for (South) East Asian and East African countries, those areas definitely needed idea attention the most.
Yes and for this patch they have been prioritized because of that. South East Asia in particular will no longer have many countries with generic ideas in 1444.
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Can we hope for spy ideas overhaul sometime in the future? Nobody uses them at the moment because every single idea group is better then this.
Also since theocracies are a focus of this patch - monarchies get Aristocratic republics get Plutocratic, but what about theocracies? Aristocratic as well? Both? Brand new Theocratic idea group?
Also since theocracies are a focus of this patch - monarchies get Aristocratic republics get Plutocratic, but what about theocracies? Aristocratic as well? Both? Brand new Theocratic idea group?
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