Developer Diary 13 – Upper House and Reform

[RedRalphWiggum]

2. Plurality and Revanchism

 

[King]

but shoundn't a socialist upperhouse support political reforms? trade unions and voting rights was perhaps THE most important reforms for the socialists.

No, socialist support social reforms. If you want trade unions and voting rights then you will support the liberals. Once you have done this, if you want social refrom you switch to the socialists.

 

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Depends entirely on your upperhouse. If you get a load of reactionaries and/or communists in your upperhouse then you can roll back those nasty reforms and become a good old fashioned dictatorship.

Reactionaries and communists working together to form dictatorship is an impossible situation. They were the arch enemies at the time Beside, the first ones were orthodox monarchists, like Karlists in Spain or Miguelists in Portugal, wanting to ressurect traditional catholic monarchy, so dictatorship wasn't really their goal.

First question, will there be a possibility that those two groups will really work together or the "or" word in "reactionaries and/or communists" part is more significant than "and" ?

Second one, Will reactionaires after they conquer the Upper House, in for example a republic, be able to form monarchy, not the constitutional one, but the traditional ?

 

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Thanks for an answer. One more question: does ruling party policy affect somehow POPs decisions? For example, if one of the ruling party issues is "pacifism", shall we expect less POPs become soldiers?

 

[King]

Reactionaries and communists working together to form dictatorship is an impossible situation. They were the arch enemies at the time Beside, the first ones were orthodox monarchists, like Karlists in Spain or Miguelists in Portugal, wanting to ressurect traditional catholic monarchy, so dictatorship wasn't really their goal.

First question, will there be a possibility that those two groups will really work together or the "or" word in "reactionaries and/or communists" part is more significant than "and" ?

Second one, Will reactionaires after they conquer the Upper House, in for example a republic, be able to form monarchy, not the constitutional one, but the traditional ?

It is up to you to guide your social and political reforms based on the upper house your people give you. So you can of course use the unholy alliance of Communists and Reationaries to give yourself the country you want.

Under the right conditions you can get back to an old school absolute monarchy.

 

[King]

Thanks for an answer. One more question: does ruling party policy affect somehow POPs decisions? For example, if one of the ruling party issues is "pacifism", shall we expect less POPs become soldiers?

No but pascifism as a party policy caps maximum military spending making soldiering less attractive to POPs.

 

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Ok, so now just tell me where I can pre-order

 

[Subcomandante]

No, socialist support social reforms. If you want trade unions and voting rights then you will support the liberals. Once you have done this, if you want social refrom you switch to the socialists.

And let me guess, unions increase militancy, which allows to push through policies that are normally not permitted with the current upper house.

 

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It is up to you to guide your social and political reforms based on the upper house your people give you. So you can of course use the unholy alliance of Communists and Reationaries to give yourself the country you want.

Under the right conditions you can get back to an old school absolute monarchy.

Great V2 is already the best game created by PI

 

[King]

And let me guess, unions increase militancy, which allows to push through policies that are normally not permitted with the current upper house.

No, I mean why give people the option of press this button and see your country get worse? This isn't good game play. Unions increase the wieght that a given social reform demand gets from a POP. So if a POP wants a shorter worker day then trade unions will ablify that demand. We will talk about this in more detail in a leter developer diary.

 

[Sute]{h]

No but pascifism as a party policy caps maximum military spending making soldiering less attractive to POPs.

I assume jingoist and pro-military party has a minimum military spending which indirectly ties pops into being soldiers rather than making money?

 

[King]

I assume jingoist and pro-military party has a minimum military spending which indirectly ties pops into being soldiers rather than making money?

No, money will not simply disappear if we can help it.

 

[Colon]

Will the political parties reforms have a tangible effect on parties or your governing, or will it just be a matter of militancy? (same thing with press rights, trade unions and public meetings) And how exactly are the different voting systems going to work?

 

[telesien]

1. It means that under this form of government you can override the election result and pick from the list of valid parties.

2. Plurality and Revanchism

3. Your current upperhouse composition does not allow the extension of social reform but does allow the extension of political refrom

4. Second on the list of political refroms, between Slavery and Vote Franchise.

Thanks, you're the best and I really need to learn how to read properly...

I expect high revanchism to increase militancy, when you don't have some of your previously owned provinces in your hands anymore, right?

And just one question regarding something which will be part of later dev diary... That voting system suggests, that the we can have more than one ruling party and coalitions will exist or does it have something to do with the way how the upper house composition is chosen?

 

[Taylor]

Good dev diary, King. Thanks, it sounds really interesting!

 

[Cyclone231]

Does Ruling Party Only allow for the ruling party to change, or does it mean the country is stuck with one party?

 

[Sute]{h]

No, money will not simply disappear if we can help it.

...I think you misunderstood my point. If jingoist and pro-militarists have a minimum slider setting for military spending then more pops will convert to soldiers because the pay is better. If your craftmen becomes soldiers they wont produce goods anymore lowering the income of the factory. Lower production should indirectly mean a lower state income if I'm not mistaken. I know you still tax the soldiers, but with anything less than a 100% tax the military spending will drain the state coffers.

 

[Valentin the II]

Could some one explain to me the concept of Plurality and Revanchism. And how it would effect game play.
Also, I would agree with any one that says: Best dev diary yet!

 

[King]

Will the political parties reforms have a tangible effect on parties or your governing, or will it just be a matter of militancy? (same thing with press rights, trade unions and public meetings) And how exactly are the different voting systems going to work?

Yes, we will talk about this in a later developer diary. Reforms never give an intrinsic militancy decline.

 

[King]

Thanks, you're the best and I really need to learn how to read properly...

I expect high revanchism to increase militancy, when you don't have some of your previously owned provinces in your hands anymore, right?

And just one question regarding something which will be part of later dev diary... That voting system suggests, that the we can have more than one ruling party and coalitions will exist or does it have something to do with the way how the upper house composition is chosen?

Lower house and upperhouse as seperate animals. So the upperhouse compisition does not effect the lower house.