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EU4 - Development Diary - 28th January 2016

Hello everyone, today we’ll start talking about 1.16 and what it will contain. The development team is busy working on 1.15.1 at the same time, which we hope is out ASAP.

One of the fun part of working on the Europa Universalis series over the last decade has been the constant evolvement of the map. Today we’re proud to announce some of the map changes for 1.16, with a quick look of Europe.

Ireland in Crusader Kings II is known as tutorial island, as an entire game in itself. In EU so far, ireland have not been properly represented, and more been shown as poor as it became after a long time of english rule. Now Ireland is richer in 1444, and not just a quick conquest for England within 5 years. Ireland also have 9 provinces, where it had five before, and several new interesting nations to play.


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We’ve also tweaked the map to better borders and provinces in Hungary, and I hope you’ll enjoy this setup.
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We also made a complete overhaul of how cultures work to remove the ties to language, and tie them more together to similar cultures, to create more historically plausible countries and relations.

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Now, for some community fun, try to find as many changes on the map compared to 1.15 in this screenshot and list below!

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Next week I’m back talking about a new concept that is getting in the game for 1.15, which can be seen in the topbar on these screenshoys.
 
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Great stuff. I'm really excited about the changes!

@riadach might have some suggestions but Limerick and Cork should possibly be Thomond and maybe Desmond? That Cork province is a broad church where the dominant power might either be the McCarthy more or the Earls of Ormond.

Anyway, great changes.
 
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Ok, a move to a nice direction as far as the map is concerned, but I really hate the culture map.

It offers nothing new or interesting because the whole problem with ingame cultures is having sharp divides. You switched Welsh to "British" and re-added Highlander culture? How will that make up for interesting interactions etc. What about the divide between Bulgarian-Greek-Romanian, Byzantine-Venetian-S Italian, Levantine everything, Polish-Lithuanian-Ruthenian or Danish/Swedish-Low German? they're much closer than Basque and Andalusian, which are in the same group. Occitan/Catalan? Finnish/Karelian?? (like, for real?)

Game needs at least one more tier of culture groupings that can overlap with the existing one (like regions-areas-continents do for provinces). Only then tags can interact with and consolidate ethnographic and/or geographic regions better.
 
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GameG said:
So should I refrain from starting a campaign before the patch, and also... not sure what you meant with the culture map.
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1.15 is barely out, we haven't even gotten 1.15.1. It's safe to say that 1.16 is at least 1 month away. So you can probably start playing, if you don't mind reading new dev diaries with cool, new features.
 
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I'm glad to see Ireland finally getting some love. Should make for a much more enjoyable experience as England or an Irish tag. I'm definitely interested to learn more about the new icon on the top bar.
 
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Is there another culture in the Celtic group? Old English? "More Irish than the Irish themselves" :D

There seems to be a line across the "Irish group" from around the Pale down around Leinster.
 
spyroware1 said:
Ok, a move to a nice direction as far as the map is concerned, but I really hate the culture map.

It offers nothing new or interesting because the whole problem with ingame cultures is having sharp divides. You switched Welsh to "British" and re-added Highlander culture? How will that make up for interesting interactions etc. What about the divide between Bulgarian-Greek-Romanian, Polish-Lithuanian-Ruthenian or Danish/Swedish-Low German? they're much closer than Basque and Andalusian, which are in the same group. Occitan/Catalan? Finnish/Karelian?? (like, for real?)

Game needs at least one more tier of culture groupings that can overlap. Only then tags can interact with and consolidate ethnographic and/or geographic regions better.
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What you're asking is a huge change in EU mechanics. The current culture system affects tons of things. If they rework it then it's probably going to be the main selling point of a DLC, not a minor feature.

I, for one, am glad that they're at least improving the game within its current bounds. Of course, I'd love it if they reworked the culture system, but that's a huge undertaking.
 
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Lamahorse said:
Great stuff. I'm really excited about the changes!

@riadach might have some suggestions but Limerick and Cork should possibly be Thomond and maybe Desmond? That Cork province is a broad church where the dominant power might either be the McCarthy more or the Earls of Ormond.

Anyway, great changes.
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That would make sense for the start though those names would be meaningless in later start dates. A compromise could be the provinces being named cork and limerick and the factions being named something else.

It would make a lot of sense now to put the O'Connors in Sligo and give Connacht to the MacWilliam Burkes. I've seen nothing to suggest though that there's a Hiberno-Norman culture so they'll all be Irish anyway.
 
Afinati said:
Every province uses English names unless you're playing the game in a different language, right ... or at least the names commonly used by most English speakers?
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That used to be the case, but dynamic province names have been a thing for a long time.
 
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Lamahorse said:
Great stuff. I'm really excited about the changes!

@riadach might have some suggestions but Limerick and Cork should possibly be Thomond and maybe Desmond? That Cork province is a broad church where the dominant power might either be the McCarthy more or the Earls of Ormond.

Anyway, great changes.
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This is more accurate for the time period I think, because in my History class in school they we're never referenced as Thomond or Desmond but as they are here.
 
With the gap from Sligo to Hungary being only 25 or about a 10% increase, it seems like something where the base value contributes much more than the country. Maybe some kind of officer pool. Could it be a rework of how you recruit generals? Don't see a big need to shift away from using Military Points, but the Army and Navy traditions are tricky to manage, so maybe something moe simple?
 
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