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Ck2 Dev Diary #21: A Glimmer of Hope

Greetings! If you are reading this you have survived the outbreak launch of The Reaper’s Due. Perhaps you now feel a stirring of hope; can society rebuild? But no, the DLC was too virulent and has spread too far, it is now endemic to CK2 and cannot be cured, there is no hope.

Certain death aside, we are very happy with the reception of Reaper’s Due and the reactions it’s getting. We have had a few problems, but our Code Physicians have been working hard on a cure and if all goes well we’ll be releasing a hotfix today. It’ll cover the education bug non-Conclave owners have, the lack of music when the Context sensitive option is used, and various other things:
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- Fixes songs from the base game being disabled in contextual songs
- If the contextual song doesn't find a song to play, a song will now be chosen by ignoring the contextual song system
- Fixed children not getting their education trait upon becoming adults when you don't have Conclave
- Can no longer call ally into war against their own liege
- You can now get the achievement 'Papal Mache' by killing a Caliph, as implied by the description
- Epidemic diseases no longer stall if you are infected while you have a non-serious symptom
- The "desires a matrilineal marriage" AI modifier no longer happens when matrilineal marriages are disabled
- Horse doctors got a little better
- Incapable people no longer steal your food in seclusion
- characters will not accuse their liege during witch hunts since they have to approve them
- Vassals will no longer refuse their liege's marriage or betrothal offers to get a "better alliance"
- No longer will you get upset about your spouse/parent's grave getting robbed if you were the robber
- Removed the possibility to search for partial titles for performance reasons
- Eunuchs may only select the Groom an Heir ambition if they have a living child
- Fixed several cases of when a Christian Holy Order built a new castle, you would be notified that Beit Dejan was built, instead of the actual castle
- Court physicians now always ask their own liege for money.
- Generic reincarnation event requires your heir to be your child
- Added some more ai factors for when head of religion wants to blame Jews for the plague
- Fixed some broken text in reincarnation event
- The priest generated by event 3021 now has an education
- Murderers are now immune to prune (prevents the red skull from leading nowhere)
- Characters who are marked as special interest by the player, or immune to pruning are no longer killed by the court cleanser
- Fixed in issue with prisoners being able to complain to their liege that the chancellor was looking inappropriately at his wife
- Added the sayyid trait to al-Hadi (id 188648), son of Al-Mansur
- Crash fix that occurred in some mods using custom maps.
- Fixed an issue were you would be notified of eating your own close dynasty members
- Fixed 867 Sápmi setup
- Event WoL.6120 will now only trigger for adult characters
- Further reduced odds of under 16s getting cancer
- Rulers are now willing to negotiate non-aggression pacts with their vassals
- Fixed so infidel penalty is applied properly  for betrothal/marriage
- Modded game rules should now be loaded properly.
- Fixed so call ally alert no longer shows if it's a war against your ally's liege
- Fixed a crash when using custom maps

After this, we’ll be working on the 2.6.2 patch which will, as well as general fixing, add some more events and content we thought up too late to do for the release or that have been suggested on this and other forums post-release -and on that note, please continue to suggest new Game Rules. But 2.6.2 details are for future DDs, that’s all for now!
 
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@Darkrenown :Can no longer call ally into war against their own liege

This is a bad change........

I just took advantage of it in my current save. I was Prince of France(and a SuperDuke) who lost the Election for King, but my wife was Queen of Navarra, Castile, Leon, Galicia, and Aragon. I started a claim war against the new king.....and called her in because it made sense.

With this rule that wouldn't be allowed to happen......

A Married couple with good relations and allies should be allowed to be called in.

You will still be able to call your allies into wars like this, when you as the vassal start a war against your liege. The change we made only affects wars started by the third party. So if your ally declare a war against your liege, you cannot be called into that war.
 
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@Darkrenown :Can no longer call ally into war against their own liege

This is a bad change........

I just took advantage of it in my current save. I was Prince of France(and a SuperDuke) who lost the Election for King, but my wife was Queen of Navarra, Castile, Leon, Galicia, and Aragon. I started a claim war against the new king.....and called her in because it made sense.

With this rule that wouldn't be allowed to happen......

A Married couple with good relations and allies should be allowed to be called in.
 
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A couple of clarifications regarding character pruning:
- The "useless character pruning" system is not new. It's always been there.
- We have only reduced the court size it triggers at
- Since that first change, we've also added a bunch of test to avoid pruning characters that were actually not useles:
- Will not prune characters who have titles (either landed or minor)
- Will not prune immortal characters
- Will not prune characters who are married, have lovers, friends or rivals
- Will not prune special interest characters
- Will not prune murderers
- Will not prune prisoners
- Will not prune people who have parents
- Will not prune people with claims
- We also have added several defines to control that even more for people who want to do it, or for modders:
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    COURT_PRUNE_SIZE = 10,                 -- Courts larger than this will be checked for pruning each month
    PRUNE_MINIMAL_AGE = 40,                -- Minimum age for a courtier to be prunable if considered irrelevant
    HEALTH_IMMUNITY_TO_PRUNING = 7,        -- If a character has that much health, they won't be pruned
 
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Some game rules about technology would be welcome.

Technology at game start: low/standard/high
Technology growth: slower/standard/faster
Technology growth for counts: yes/no
 
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Can you do something with the marriage AI? When the rulers stress about not finding a good match they pick lowborns of a different culture outside their culture group and sometimes of different religions. I've seen the christian King of France marry two Andalusian muslim lowborn women after another.
 
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Does that also work for faction leaders?
To clarify once and for all; we've actually not changed any alliance rules with this particular change. We just fixed a bug where you got spammed by CtA's that you couldn't accept, as the target of the war was invalid for you. :)
 
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I don't know if this has been suggested already, but as an addition to the 'murderers don't get pruned' feature, can we please have characters who kill another character in battle escape the pruning too?
I misspoke (miswrote?). I should have written "Character who cause someone else's death" instead of "murderers."
So, your Varangian hero will indeed be sung about with this patch.
 
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Duels: Rivals (with war focus)/Rivals, traitors and much disliked characters (w/o war focus)

I've just played my 500th hour of CK2 this week and during this time I only dueled 3 or 4 times :(

By the way, congratulations on patch and DLC! I'm loving it!
 
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just curious but what do you consider " useless Character " Because I have noticed that it is a lot harder to find Female Courtiers to marry to my council than in 2.5. Since i tend to want to marry my council members because I like the idea of a family always being on the council if they are good and if you prune my court it makes it harder to do and I have to resort to paying for a " Peasant Debutante " A lot more

A couple of clarifications regarding character pruning:
- The "useless character pruning" system is not new. It's always been there.
- We have only reduced the court size it triggers at
- Since that first change, we've also added a bunch of test to avoid pruning characters that were actually not useles:
- Will not prune characters who have titles (either landed or minor)
- Will not prune immortal characters
- Will not prune characters who are married, have lovers, friends or rivals
- Will not prune special interest characters
- Will not prune murderers
- Will not prune prisoners
- Will not prune people who have parents
- Will not prune people with claims
- We also have added several defines to control that even more for people who want to do it, or for modders:
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    COURT_PRUNE_SIZE = 10,                 -- Courts larger than this will be checked for pruning each month
    PRUNE_MINIMAL_AGE = 40,                -- Minimum age for a courtier to be prunable if considered irrelevant
    HEALTH_IMMUNITY_TO_PRUNING = 7,        -- If a character has that much health, they won't be pruned

As an addition, I will also say this isn't used on the player's court.

However your specific issue has more to do with generating less random courtiers at the start of the game (or at the creation of a new court) than with the pruning.
 
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The DLC looks amazing, from the videos i see. A nice addition to the game i'd say. What i'd really like to see though is a new CK title (CK3) on an improved engine with many more capabilities both for the users who would like to mod the game and both for the devs so that they can deliver the needs and petitions of the community faster. Considering the hype the community has after the latest patch and DLC for the game, it's the best time to announce the development of a new CK title.

They said a while back ago they're still planning more DLC and are not prepared to retire the engine yet. It's still too soon for CK3.
 
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Force me to actually send forces to help ally!
Maybe having the penalty of refusing a call to arms if you haven't been part of at least one battle or siege?
 
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Even if you and your ally has the same liege?

You mean in situations were you and your ally have the same liege, and then you declare war on your liege? Currently yes.

Maybe still allow it for some CBs?

We made this change to fix a few other issues with calling allies in a scenario like this. We'll evaluate and see if we need to do any further changes.
 
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It is one thing to good dlc when everything is stable and another to do good dlc when community divided into pieces and people stops playing. It was very hard task but good ideas such as able to change rules, optimazation... and good "fun" dlc gathered all people into common ground topic: CK2 is still fun to play.

The dlc might be about death and despeir but this team revived the series.
 
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