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Nice progress!

A little sidenote. I would actually not use the word "modern" (as many mods indeed do) in technological terms as it either refers to what is currently present or the historical and cultural period that followed the middle ages and lasted til the beginning of the industrial revolution. That is of course unless for the very latest techs. I propose using a generation terminology instead, if a specific name does not make sense
 
Nice progress!

A little sidenote. I would actually not use the word "modern" (as many mods indeed do) in technological terms as it either refers to what is currently present or the historical and cultural period that followed the middle ages and lasted til the beginning of the industrial revolution. That is of course unless for the very latest techs. I propose using a generation terminology instead, if a specific name does not make sense

The problem is that not every ship has had a "generational measurement", that's why i understand the term "modern" as a ship suitable for fighting nowadays against other opponents.
 
Someone that played it. Any opinion?
 
I played it alright...the techs works ok(by ok i mean when research them they function).But some pictures and discriptions(quite a few) are mixed or lack signs etc...
Also the techs icons are bit small to me.
Or maybe its because the slight hexagon shape...if it would be straigth it might set better into it...

So far i played 5years to 1938 as Germany.I have no idea how AI is doing with those techs i will check on that...
 
Someone that played it. Any opinion?
Yea, its cool but only feels a bit incomplete for now in the early alpha stages.

The first ship considered to be a pocket battleship, was designed and layed down (started to be builded) in 1929 and she was commisioned in 1933, they had a CA/HC hull not a BC one. The Germans tagged them as heavy cruisers, not as BCs. That and their CA hull, i think it's enough reason to put them under CA category. Check this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_cruiser_Deutschland
But wasnt that classification just to trick the British and circumvent the Versailles treaty? Figures 'pocket battleship' would be stronger than just heavy cruisers.

I honestly think that a helicopter cruiser is half a cruiser half a carrier (designed in the late 50s or 60s) while a helo carrier is a CVL with a helicopter brigade (HMS Bulwark, HMS Albion), anyway, as i'm discarding light CAG brigs making it impossible to represent, i think that i may add another class for USS Iwo Jima and USS Tarawa.
Russia has cruiser heli carriers and litteral half cruiser half carrier heli carriers but how about these things made in the west? Were those both design types even made as early as the 60s anyway?

But, despite i searched, i couldn't find more cavalry tanks post 1935, it seemed a Franco-Russian idea, that's why i only made two models. About infantry tanks, you have to think that they were used only by UK and those countries following Sandhurst doctrine, that's why, unless you choose that land doctrine path, they are deactivated, (while, if you choose any other path, cavalry tanks are the active ones) and the tank research goes on normally.
Look check these things outs:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Cavalry_tanks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Light_tanks_of_the_interwar_period Some tanks are shared between the two above. So wiki kinda agrees with me earlier, on some cavalry tanks are the light tanks of the era. Also notice there are russian, french and german tanks in there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tank_classification#Light_tank
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tank_classification#Medium_tank
In there I like these quotes:
"The French World War II-era light tank (Char Léger) types differed from other nations' light tanks of the period. Since they were intended to be used for infantry support rather than scouting, they were slower than most light tanks, giving it the weaknesses of the type, but with heavier armour. The French intended the AMR scout tanks (Automitrailleuses de Reconnaissance) and armoured cars (Automitrailleuses de Combat) for scouting and light combat roles."
But AMRs are also listed as cavalry tanks!!
"The French cavalry tanks (Chars de Cavalerie) focused on speed in addition to power and protection of the other designs. They were similar to what other countries called medium tanks."
LOL French light tanks are comparatively as strong as other countries' medium tanks!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tank_classification#Infantry_tank
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infantry_tank#History
Above they first say infantry tanks are French and British inventions, but apparently also the Russians, Germans and US picked them up too according to the 2nd link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tank_classification#Cruiser_tank
Here in this link the cruiser tank class does appear to be indeed entirely British (not the infantry tanks tho), also its worth to notice how a Cromwell can be compared to a Panther.

So in conclusions:
Everyone has every kind of tanks apparently.
Cavalry tanks are light tanks powerful enough to be considered medium.
The cavalry and infantry/cruiser tanks, have been designed at the same time and died out to become the basis of the general medium tank class.
Cruiser tanks are British! God save the King/Queen!
 
I played it alright...the techs works ok(by ok i mean when research them they function).But some pictures and discriptions(quite a few) are mixed or lack signs etc...
Also the techs icons are bit small to me.
Or maybe its because the slight hexagon shape...if it would be straigth it might set better into it...

So far i played 5years to 1938 as Germany.I have no idea how AI is doing with those techs i will check on that...

I didn't touch AI so spect to find some weirdness...

Yea, its cool but only feels a bit incomplete for now in the early alpha stages.


But wasnt that classification just to trick the British and circumvent the Versailles treaty? Figures 'pocket battleship' would be stronger than just heavy cruisers.


Russia has cruiser heli carriers and litteral half cruiser half carrier heli carriers but how about these things made in the west? Were those both design types even made as early as the 60s anyway?


Look check these things outs:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Cavalry_tanks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Light_tanks_of_the_interwar_period Some tanks are shared between the two above. So wiki kinda agrees with me earlier, on some cavalry tanks are the light tanks of the era. Also notice there are russian, french and german tanks in there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tank_classification#Light_tank
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tank_classification#Medium_tank
In there I like these quotes:
"The French World War II-era light tank (Char Léger) types differed from other nations' light tanks of the period. Since they were intended to be used for infantry support rather than scouting, they were slower than most light tanks, giving it the weaknesses of the type, but with heavier armour. The French intended the AMR scout tanks (Automitrailleuses de Reconnaissance) and armoured cars (Automitrailleuses de Combat) for scouting and light combat roles."
But AMRs are also listed as cavalry tanks!!
"The French cavalry tanks (Chars de Cavalerie) focused on speed in addition to power and protection of the other designs. They were similar to what other countries called medium tanks."
LOL French light tanks are comparatively as strong as other countries' medium tanks!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tank_classification#Infantry_tank
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infantry_tank#History
Above they first say infantry tanks are French and British inventions, but apparently also the Russians, Germans and US picked them up too according to the 2nd link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tank_classification#Cruiser_tank
Here in this link the cruiser tank class does appear to be indeed entirely British (not the infantry tanks tho), also its worth to notice how a Cromwell can be compared to a Panther.

So in conclusions:
Everyone has every kind of tanks apparently.
Cavalry tanks are light tanks powerful enough to be considered medium.
The cavalry and infantry/cruiser tanks, have been designed at the same time and died out to become the basis of the general medium tank class.
Cruiser tanks are British! God save the King/Queen!

I'm with a heavy hangover and it hurts to think so i'm only answering this for now, does it really care if a pocket BB is, in game terms, considered as a CA or as a BC? I mean, if a BC with 10 seattack meet with another enemy CA with... 13 seattack the CA has an advantage despite being smalle, doesn't it? and besides, the CA and BCs does not receive any special bonuses in combat like CVs do.

EDIT: I'm accepting suggestions about tech teams!
 
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Ok then, i'll add some extra models for helicopter carriers!.

JRHINDO if i understood you correctly... you are proposing to make two tiers (infantry and cavalry tanks) both of them ending in MBTs right?

EDIT: In order to fulfill tech pics, i'm also acepting tech pics propositions.
 
Just to show you that, despite hangover, i've not been loosing the time...

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I know they aren't Francesco's models... but you have to think that my graphical modding experience is almost 0...
 
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I'm with a heavy hangover and it hurts to think so i'm only answering this for now, does it really care if a pocket BB is, in game terms, considered as a CA or as a BC? I mean, if a BC with 10 seattack meet with another enemy CA with... 13 seattack the CA has an advantage despite being smalle, doesn't it? and besides, the CA and BCs does not receive any special bonuses in combat like CVs do.
You are right.
JRHINDO if i understood you correctly... you are proposing to make two tiers (infantry and cavalry tanks) both of them ending in MBTs right?
Yep. Infantry-cruiser/cavalry tanks merge into the mediums and then the mediums become MBTs after the war. Those tanks didnt become MBTs overnight obviously, but their ideas and technological advances got passed on in further designs and are found in the modern MBTs. These types of tanks should be requirements for the mediums.

So the way I see it, cav tanks should need a 1928 light tank as requisite and the latest medium tank model. Then, the french cav tanks die out, but the British have the Cruiser tanks so those should continue the Cav tank line (wiki merge the cav and cruiser tanks in a single article, does make sense in a way). Infantry tanks should be researchable without the need of the cav tanks, they would need the latest medium tank model. That way the two lines are independent, until when you want to research the next unified medium tank model.


As for new tech teams, maybe you would be better off to get TTs from the NWO or Space mod. Those mods get a lot more attention than this one.
 
Ok, i'll see what i can do.

Yes, i don't know why other mods receive more attention than this one :-(
 
Yes, you're talking about mark IX, aren't you?, but they were not used in a battle taxi role IIRC, but to carry ammo and weapons. My idea of APC was a "combat APC".
 
Did i show you this screenshot?

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