Let the ruling classes tremble – an Interactive Revolutionary AAR

[LordTempest]

What he has done? You mean the man that rose up against the elected government of the republic? The man who seized power from that elected government through force of arms rather than waiting for an election? That man? I rather think I am judging him by his actions, don't you? Banqui rose against the elected government and lost. Lenin rose against the elected government and won. That is the only difference.

Blanqui, Kadon and Lenin all did what they thought needed to be done, the only difference was their reasons. The Independents betrayed those who voted for them and endangered our very republic with their "reforms" If not Lenin, then who? Tsar, Kaiser or Empereur?

Lenin's tyranny isn't as certain as you claim, just as how Kadon's tyranny wasn't when he rose against the government.

 

[Enewald]

What he has done? You mean the man that rose up against the elected government of the republic? The man who seized power from that elected government through force of arms rather than waiting for an election? That man? I rather think I am judging him by his actions, don't you? Banqui rose against the elected government and lost. Lenin rose against the elected government and won. That is the only difference.


Freedom, once relinquished, is seldom granted again. To get to a utopia through tyranny is a contradiction in terms. A tyrannical utopia is not one in which I would wish to live.

And that is why we need that constitution.
That no man, however strong his party be, shall rise against a government that rules justly.
When you kill an anarchist, two will take its place and rise again.
That is how the game mechanics work.

You cannot kill a dream. You cannot prevent prevent our longing for liberty.
Marxism shall die. Every Marxist shall die.
Free will shall not die. As long as one human is left alive, the idea of freedom lives on.

 

[LordTempest]

And that is why we need that constitution.
That no man, however strong his party be, shall rise against a government that rules justly.
When you kill an anarchist, two will take its place and rise again.
That is how the game mechanics work.

You cannot kill a dream. You cannot prevent prevent our longing for liberty.
Marxism shall die. Every Marxist shall die.
Free will shall not die. As long as one human is left alive, the idea of freedom lives on.

Oh go eat some babies!

 

[keynes2.0]

Everyone has lost focus of the true tragedy here.

The Unions shall rise again!

 

[Communard]

Blanqui, Kadon and Lenin all did what they thought needed to be done, the only difference was their reasons. The Independents betrayed those who voted for them and endangered our very republic with their "reforms" If not Lenin, then who? Tsar, Kaiser or Empereur?

Lenin's tyranny isn't as certain as you claim, just as how Kadon's tyranny wasn't when he rose against the government.

Any man who rises against the government is a would-be tyrant. We were a democracy, if they wanted to be a democratic leader then they could stand for election. I was fervently against the YA when they were rising against the elected government way back in the day, I was against Blanqui when he did the same, and I'm against Lenin now. Only when the democracy is subverted, only then can a revolution be justified, and it was not so.

Lenin could have waited two years, and I am sure that he would have won a landslide thanks to the sheer incompetence of the government. hell, they might even have been forced to call an early election. But instead he chose this path, killing so many. That is not the act of a man who wishes to preserve a democratic system. That is the act of a man who wishes to abolish it, or at least remove its teeth.

Everyone has lost focus of the true tragedy here.

The Unions shall rise again!

Oh, be gone with you, union shill. Your people caused this damn mess in the first place. I certainly regret my Independent vote. I mean, the economic collapse due to oversupply was overdue, and the political situation was unstable in the Assembly, but the unions basically took a medium-sized but manageable blaze and poured kerosene on it.

 

[LordTempest]

Any man who rises against the government is a would-be tyrant. We were a democracy, if they wanted to be a democratic leader then they could stand for election. I was fervently against the YA when they were rising against the elected government way back in the day, I was against Blanqui when he did the same, and I'm against Lenin now. Only when the democracy is subverted, only then can a revolution be justified, and it was not so.

And we still are! Lenin is no Caesar, and should he become one he shall end up like Caesar! I'll even plunge his heart with a dagger myself if I need to! Should Lenin enslave us and put us in chains, it will not be without resistance I assure you Comrade, another Spartacus will rise to defend socialism and I shall fight with him.

But all this is an assumption, Should Lenin do this or If Lenin did that. You may believe Lenin a tyrant and you may be right, but remember that it is an assumption which led to the demonisation of Blanqui and the young anarchists.

 

[Communard]

And we still are! Lenin is no Caesar, and should he become one he shall end up like Caesar! I'll even plunge his heart with a dagger myself if I need to! Should Lenin enslave us and put us in chains, it will not be without resistance I assure you Comrade, another Spartacus will rise to defend socialism and I shall fight with him.

But all this is an assumption, Should Lenin do this or If Lenin did that. You may believe Lenin a tyrant and you may be right, but remember that it is an assumption which led to the demonisation of Blanqui and the young anarchists.

What are his options? You think he will hold a free election with all party factions allowed? Allow me to doubt that. He will allow to stand for election 1) his own faction and 2) factions he finds agreeable enough to allow to exist, providing they do not get too much power compared to his. If he holds elections at all, that is. Let me say again: Lenin could have chosen democracy one year ago, and he did not. That is enough to convince me of his intent.

 

[Enewald]

And we still are! Lenin is no Caesar, and should he become one he shall end up like Caesar! I'll even plunge his heart with a dagger myself if I need to! Should Lenin enslave us and put us in chains, it will not be without resistance I assure you Comrade, another Spartacus will rise to defend socialism and I shall fight with him.

But all this is an assumption, Should Lenin do this or If Lenin did that. You may believe Lenin a tyrant and you may be right, but remember that it is an assumption which led to the demonisation of Blanqui and the young anarchists.

Lenin may not be everything, but he is the reason why so many died. Anarchists killed in thousands, unions slaughtered, economy torn down, Finnish intervention resulting in a bloodbath...
One cannot just start a civil war! Both parties must be punished for this. Fact being, no one is left with power to stop the Leninist menace.
The resistance lives on, Marxist blood will be shed as long as Lenin is left alive.
We anarchists will return, and blood will pour again like never before...

 

[scholar]

The Anarchists will rise again.

 

[winsingtonIII]

Nice update! I have to admit, I have no idea who to support anymore....

*hollow laugh* Oh, Enewald, you of all people, so naive? There will be no more elections. No real ones, anyway.

This AAR is defined by its interactive nature and is one of the reasons it has drawn the attention of so many people (I do not mean to cheapen the popularity of the AAR here, obviously it is also a great story). I somehow doubt Tommy4Ever will remove that aspect, considering what it has done to make this AAR stand out.

 

[Communard]

This AAR is defined by its interactive nature and is one of the reasons it has drawn the attention of so many people. I somehow doubt Tommy4Ever will remove that aspect, considering what it has done to make this AAR stand out.

At the start, he specifically mentioned the possibility of becoming a dictatorship, and said he'd still consult us on policy if that became the case, it just wouldn't be on such a formal basis. Plus, I think it is likely that Lenin will hold "show elections", which could determine which pro-Leninst faction has most support besides the M-L and influence policy that way.

EDIT:

You do not represent the entire populace of the Republic but instead you represent the party membership. You shall routinely be consulted on important decisions for the Republic through frequent votes. At the start of the AAR I will ask you to vote for one of the factions which will take power for a period of five years, after those five years you will be able to vote again.

- However this system is anything but rigid. One of the main things I hope to do with this AAR is to develop the Republic from an infant People’s Republic onwards into a mature state. Depending on both your votes and the actions of characters in the AAR your power may be weakened or strengthened. For example if, somehow, a Stalinesque figure of reactionary dictatorship takes power then your voting power will be significantly weakened but if the Party falls into the hands of unconfident and strongly democratic persons then you could end up directing me in almost everything I do from new factory building programs to where I should direct influence points if any.

- However to keep this an interactive AAR I promise that even if we do end up with a dictator I will consult you routinely.

 

[unmerged(140907)]

Nice update! I have to admit, I have no idea who to support anymore....



This AAR is defined by its interactive nature and is one of the reasons it has drawn the attention of so many people. I somehow doubt Tommy4Ever will remove that aspect, considering what it has done to make this AAR stand out.

Tommy did state earlier on that in the event of a dictatorship we would still retain some amount of power over the course of the Republic.

It'd be really cool if later on there was like a Stalinesque dictatorship and we became the competing thoughts in the mind of the dictator over how to rule haha.

 

[cpteveros]

Hahahahaha yes! The Anarchists are dead. Our republic is saved, the right party in place! Lenin will fix the wrongs of the Anarchists, you will all see. Tyrant he is not, and Dictator he is not. Lenin is but a man; an extraordinary man who can salvage the situation. I salute Ricainfier's noble sacrifice, and wish I had done the same. We will march on to greatness!

 

[Enewald]

Nice update! I have to admit, I have no idea who to support anymore....



This AAR is defined by its interactive nature and is one of the reasons it has drawn the attention of so many people (I do not mean to cheapen the popularity of the AAR here, obviously it is also a great story). I somehow doubt Tommy4Ever will remove that aspect, considering what it has done to make this AAR stand out.

Shh, let os keep the 'Blame Lenin of destrying potentially the democracy'-card.

Winsington, to keep Lenin and his Marxist wolfpack in check, you have to stay true to the liberal cause. Do you like your freedom?
Do you want to help us in defending your freedom?
Nothing is sweeter than vengeance. Lenin must die.

 

[Communard]

Hahahahaha yes! The Anarchists are dead. Our republic is saved, the right party in place! Lenin will fix the wrongs of the Anarchists, you will all see. Tyrant he is not, and Dictator he is not. Lenin is but a man; an extraordinary man who can salvage the situation. I salute Ricainfier's noble sacrifice, and wish I had done the same. We will march on to greatness!

If Lenin is such a democrat, why did he rise against the government and seek to rule by force of arms? The definition of tyranny.

 

[cpteveros]

Shh, let os keep the 'Blame Lenin of destrying potentially the democracy'-card.

Winsington, to keep Lenin and his Marxist wolfpack in check, you have to stay true to the liberal cause. Do you like your freedom?
Do you want to help us in defending your freedom?
Nothing is sweeter than vengeance. Lenin must die.

Consider yourself lucky that the Anarchists didn't kill you when they had the chance, Enewald. You are to thank for the Anarchist defeat as much as we are.

 

[cpteveros]

If Lenin is such a democrat, why did he rise against the government and seek to rule by force of arms? The definition of tyranny.

Because we needed it.

 

[Communard]

Because we needed it.

Why? He could have forced Kropotkin to hold an election, one which he would surely have won. But perhaps Lenin is not fond of elections.

 

[Enewald]

Consider yourself lucky that the Anarchists didn't kill you when they had the chance, Enewald. You are to thank for the Anarchist defeat as much as we are.

I shall return.
The next time it will be bloodier.
And more commies shall die.

This recent defeat purged the ranks of anarchists.
Those who were weak and incapable did die.
The survivors want retribution.

The longer you fight with anarchists, the more anarchist you will become.
Our cause cannot be defeated. We can have as many martyrs as we wish.

At least we got rid of Kropotkin and Lenin showed his claws.
It is time for the next round.

 

[unmerged(140907)]

I shall return. The next time it will be bloodier. The longer you fight with anarchists, the more anarchist you will become.

I got a serious Anarchist Zombie Armageddon vibe from this haha