We've played CK2plus, we've played the wonderful Game of Thrones mod, but we were unable to play both at the same time.
Not anymore. Basically, the mod is CK2plus with the Game of Thrones map.
The AGOT team did some great work, and must be commended for their dedication, but for my taste they are too deterministic, trying to recreate the situations in the books exactly, and too much in love with writing overly complex and sophisticated event based systems.
I don't know about you, but I prefer a simpler, more generic approach.
What that means is I don't need/like "widower" traits, or "secret bastard" chains, "Mega Wars", or "Personal Interaction Engines".
I am also more than happy with a generic "Valyrian Blade" trait and don't need a separate one for every named sword in the books.
If you like those things, that's great, but I just find them unnecessary.
Some of you are probably now getting worried about flavour, don't worry I did not remove everything.
In fact I added several things, like beloved characters that were missing from the books, more religious events, and culture specific buildings.
There's plenty of changes and I can't remember them all or list them here, so I refer to you to the spoiler below to get a rough idea.
Probably best is if you just jump right into a game and get surprised.
I only really tested the mod starting from 8297, the time of Jon Arryns death, so if the other starts are weird or crash, I, uh, will fix them later. Probably. Maybe. Honest.
Download Agotplus 0.2 here for patch 1.06b, size ~63mb.
Q: How do I use this?
A: Extract into y:\our\path\to\Crusader Kings 2\mods, then select it in the launcher
Q: No I mean how do I extract this?
A: Download 7-zip
Q: Why is the download smaller than the GOT mod?
A: Because I use 7-zip.
Q: Can I use my existing saves?
A: No, I am afraid not, too many changes from the main mod. Titles mostly. The game is really picky about that.
Q: So why can I see the proper GOT mod saves?
A: Because I forgot to change the user_dir entry in the .mod file. Remove it if you want to.
Q: In the beginning the game freezes for a few seconds but then runs normally. Is this supposed to happen?
A: Yes, that's the maintenance decision being initialised for the first time. It sets relations and gets rid of some traits.
Q: What version(s) is this based on?
A: Based originally on CK2plus 1.2 and AGOT 0.11, but updated to 1.25.2 and 0.2 respectively.
Q: Why do several countries lack proper flags?
A: Sorry, but because the AGOT mod currently does not have them, I don't either.
Q: Contrary to the books, R/S/T HAPPENED! THAT IS TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE U/V/W!
A: Not a question, but it's a game, deal with it.
Q: Why did you change X/Y/Z?
A: Because it sounded like a good idea at the time.
Q: When will you release the next version?
A: Depends on what happens in the main mods. But for awhile there will probably be no new version. Man deserves some rest.
changes to gotmod/ck2plus/general overview
version 0.2/public release:
Not anymore. Basically, the mod is CK2plus with the Game of Thrones map.
The AGOT team did some great work, and must be commended for their dedication, but for my taste they are too deterministic, trying to recreate the situations in the books exactly, and too much in love with writing overly complex and sophisticated event based systems.
I don't know about you, but I prefer a simpler, more generic approach.
What that means is I don't need/like "widower" traits, or "secret bastard" chains, "Mega Wars", or "Personal Interaction Engines".
I am also more than happy with a generic "Valyrian Blade" trait and don't need a separate one for every named sword in the books.
If you like those things, that's great, but I just find them unnecessary.
Some of you are probably now getting worried about flavour, don't worry I did not remove everything.
In fact I added several things, like beloved characters that were missing from the books, more religious events, and culture specific buildings.
There's plenty of changes and I can't remember them all or list them here, so I refer to you to the spoiler below to get a rough idea.
Probably best is if you just jump right into a game and get surprised.
I only really tested the mod starting from 8297, the time of Jon Arryns death, so if the other starts are weird or crash, I, uh, will fix them later. Probably. Maybe. Honest.
Download Agotplus 0.2 here for patch 1.06b, size ~63mb.
Q: How do I use this?
A: Extract into y:\our\path\to\Crusader Kings 2\mods, then select it in the launcher
Q: No I mean how do I extract this?
A: Download 7-zip
Q: Why is the download smaller than the GOT mod?
A: Because I use 7-zip.
Q: Can I use my existing saves?
A: No, I am afraid not, too many changes from the main mod. Titles mostly. The game is really picky about that.
Q: So why can I see the proper GOT mod saves?
A: Because I forgot to change the user_dir entry in the .mod file. Remove it if you want to.
Q: In the beginning the game freezes for a few seconds but then runs normally. Is this supposed to happen?
A: Yes, that's the maintenance decision being initialised for the first time. It sets relations and gets rid of some traits.
Q: What version(s) is this based on?
A: Based originally on CK2plus 1.2 and AGOT 0.11, but updated to 1.25.2 and 0.2 respectively.
Q: Why do several countries lack proper flags?
A: Sorry, but because the AGOT mod currently does not have them, I don't either.
Q: Contrary to the books, R/S/T HAPPENED! THAT IS TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE U/V/W!
A: Not a question, but it's a game, deal with it.
Q: Why did you change X/Y/Z?
A: Because it sounded like a good idea at the time.
Q: When will you release the next version?
A: Depends on what happens in the main mods. But for awhile there will probably be no new version. Man deserves some rest.
changes to gotmod/ck2plus/general overview
version 0.2/public release:
enabled diseases
childbearing ends age 40
characters
various changes
osha/bronn/davos +family/melisandre in game
parents of jon snow rhaegar/lyanna
traits
cavalry/infantry, aggressive/defensive are opposites
bracken/blackwood traits are passed down patrilineally like vanilla sayyid trait
(arch)maester is a lifestyle trait
new secular scientific education traits, mainly for maesters
dynastic stain only gives 1/2 the opinion effect
removed various (redundant) traits to remove clutter:
squire, knight, stubborn, rude, family person, fashionable, etc...
bookmarks:
removed crowned stag
added death of jon arryn, some war of five kings stuff
provinces
nightswatch more castles
beyond the wall has cultures and religion assigned
warriors sons castle in kings landing is now the city of flea bottom
buildings
added religious buildings
replaced various seperate forms of local forts that all looked and acted the same with a default model to
add new culture specific buildings, exception: nightwatch
added religious buildings
the twins give a garrison boost
halved gold mine income
court
removed castellan, redundant because of master of laws/hand of the king/chancellor
can only fire maesters as lord spiritual if not westerosi religion
educate children action removed, priests get inquisition, maesters charity
coat of arms
davos seaworth
8298+ joffrey/stannis have their own
littlefinger different
casus bellis
AI indep war restrictions:
not for stormlands, vale, westerlands, riverlands unless owns 2 or more king titles
inbreeding:
causes lunatic trait
targ dynasty has no restrictions on marriage
titles:
iron throne renamed seven kingdoms, titular
new empire title westeros for rhllor
titular empires req 2 kingdoms instead of 4
swapped provinces between stormlands/crownlands
nights watch now kingdom, duchy renamed to the wall, added new duchy "the gift"
mercenaries: fluff related where possible, incl sizes
religion
new added
rhllor/fire obsessed - burning options
drowned god - drowning options
concubines for drowned god/dothraki/dornish
drowned god part of westeros (else the marriage pool is too shallow)
non westeros religions can use priests instead of maesters
various religion events
my friend is a heretic shouldnt happen to old gods
cultures
ironborn part of andals group, free city cultures in valyrian group
localisation
valyrian steel now generic for blades, not only swords
iron throne now called seven kingdoms
added/changed loading tips
events
education system replaced, because you pay money to get a random unpredictable result
no "personal interaction engine" because at the moment it's rather useless
removed war system, household guard, various railroading fluff events
royal proclamations now happen properly after old ruler dies
removal of various deterministic events
fixed http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...4-1.06-Report-on-bugs-in-multiple-event-files
decisions
force sons to train only at the same location as you
minor titles
is now called decisions
allows to send daughter to silent sisters, legitimise bastards, assign concubine
grants independence to vassals
first stewart/ranger/builder now assignable at will
combat tactics
culture specifics
childbearing ends age 40
characters
various changes
osha/bronn/davos +family/melisandre in game
parents of jon snow rhaegar/lyanna
traits
cavalry/infantry, aggressive/defensive are opposites
bracken/blackwood traits are passed down patrilineally like vanilla sayyid trait
(arch)maester is a lifestyle trait
new secular scientific education traits, mainly for maesters
dynastic stain only gives 1/2 the opinion effect
removed various (redundant) traits to remove clutter:
squire, knight, stubborn, rude, family person, fashionable, etc...
bookmarks:
removed crowned stag
added death of jon arryn, some war of five kings stuff
provinces
nightswatch more castles
beyond the wall has cultures and religion assigned
warriors sons castle in kings landing is now the city of flea bottom
buildings
added religious buildings
replaced various seperate forms of local forts that all looked and acted the same with a default model to
add new culture specific buildings, exception: nightwatch
added religious buildings
the twins give a garrison boost
halved gold mine income
court
removed castellan, redundant because of master of laws/hand of the king/chancellor
can only fire maesters as lord spiritual if not westerosi religion
educate children action removed, priests get inquisition, maesters charity
coat of arms
davos seaworth
8298+ joffrey/stannis have their own
littlefinger different
casus bellis
AI indep war restrictions:
not for stormlands, vale, westerlands, riverlands unless owns 2 or more king titles
inbreeding:
causes lunatic trait
targ dynasty has no restrictions on marriage
titles:
iron throne renamed seven kingdoms, titular
new empire title westeros for rhllor
titular empires req 2 kingdoms instead of 4
swapped provinces between stormlands/crownlands
nights watch now kingdom, duchy renamed to the wall, added new duchy "the gift"
mercenaries: fluff related where possible, incl sizes
religion
new added
rhllor/fire obsessed - burning options
drowned god - drowning options
concubines for drowned god/dothraki/dornish
drowned god part of westeros (else the marriage pool is too shallow)
non westeros religions can use priests instead of maesters
various religion events
my friend is a heretic shouldnt happen to old gods
cultures
ironborn part of andals group, free city cultures in valyrian group
localisation
valyrian steel now generic for blades, not only swords
iron throne now called seven kingdoms
added/changed loading tips
events
education system replaced, because you pay money to get a random unpredictable result
no "personal interaction engine" because at the moment it's rather useless
removed war system, household guard, various railroading fluff events
royal proclamations now happen properly after old ruler dies
removal of various deterministic events
fixed http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...4-1.06-Report-on-bugs-in-multiple-event-files
decisions
force sons to train only at the same location as you
minor titles
is now called decisions
allows to send daughter to silent sisters, legitimise bastards, assign concubine
grants independence to vassals
first stewart/ranger/builder now assignable at will
combat tactics
culture specifics
