Should I not be doing it? All of the substates were fine, but every time I got the chinese empire in my sphere I started loosing a ton of money...is there any benefit to doing it then?
that explains it...I was Russia, and economy wasn't really my focus for the game...China has a ton of artisans. In AHD, if you sphere them too soon, those artisans will make YOUR economy the subordinate one simply by outproducing you.
If you are a major industrial power (we're probably talking close to 1000), then China proper might make a good sphere choice. You can out-compete those hordes of artisans via factory efficiency and economies of scale.
No, not really. They're all allied anyway. I do find it too easy to hold on to large Chinese territories though. Plus there's not much unequal trading going on, which is why sphering China isn't an economic I-win button. And why having places like Hong Kong means very little.Hi there,
Sorry to hijack the thread, I have a China-related question to ask.
Do any of you find that fighting China is too easy now in AHD after it had been sub-divided?
Does not seem too historical to me.
paulthebug
No, not really. They're all allied anyway. I do find it too easy to hold on to large Chinese territories though. Plus there's not much unequal trading going on, which is why sphering China isn't an economic I-win button. And why having places like Hong Kong means very little.
Hi Sakkura,
What I was trying to say is, that, I can fully conquer China in 2 wars. Then, it is just a matter of "establish protectorate" on the rest of sub-state, with that exception of Guangxi, that takes 2 wars also.
I mean, historically, even at its weakest moment, Western powers didn't dare to grab China totally, except getting a foot hold here and there, because of its vast size and because it was one united country. Unlike India, which was divided, and that's why the Brit could "divide and conqure."
Sorry for my bad English.
paulthebug
There was no reason to conquer vast swaths of Chinese territory. They got what they wanted with Hong Kong etc. and unequal treaties. Conquering large areas would just mean far greater costs for keeping order, without commensurate rewards.Hi Sakkura,
What I was trying to say is, that, I can fully conquer China in 2 wars. Then, it is just a matter of "establish protectorate" on the rest of sub-state, with that exception of Guangxi, that takes 2 wars also.
I mean, historically, even at its weakest moment, Western powers didn't dare to grab China totally, except getting a foot hold here and there, because of its vast size and because it was one united country. Unlike India, which was divided, and that's why the Brit could "divide and conqure."
Sorry for my bad English.
paulthebug