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21 Martial is fine and dandy, but if Alexandros gets an arrow in his gut before he can get a hold of a larger command than a city garrison, he might as well have 0 martial and a clubfoot, for all the good it'll do him. He's too cocky, I can see him getting his head lopped off in short order if he doesn't learn some temperance.

Andronikos might turn into a vengeful (or utterly crazed) Thomasine killer, he might turn into a Manueline webspinner from behind the gates of his palace, he might drown his sorrows in wine and women like Demetrios of old, or he might even withdraw and become a bookish & shy Nikolaid introvert, but he certainly won't be a Basil-esque family man now that he has no Sophie.

He hasn't done AMAZING with his wise and loving wife/counsel, now that he's lost her, the person closest to his ear is bloodthirsty Ioannis, and his mentor was Albrecht, student of Mehtar, and I fear he might turn into a very dark sort of ruler with these sorts of influences, and nothing to counter them.
 
A heart broken Andronikos with a cruel Ioannes by his side is a perfect recepy for a reign of terror akin to Ivan IV's and his Oprichnina in XVI century Russia. Andronikos the Terrible? I can only wish...
 
He can obviously always remarry, but Cecilia was the love of his life. The Megas had many women in his time, but he loved none of them like he loved Anastasia, and he became a very different man, and a much less competent ruler after her death. I, for one, am sad because of Cecilia's demise. I never liked her, and I loathed Andronikos because he drove the wisest man, and the most beautiful woman in Christendom away just for the sake of his love for her. But I don't like the fact that, now that she's dead so early, all that he's done for her seems to have been in vain. On another subject: Does anyone else feel like there's something wrong with Arghun's invasion? It seems successful enough, but I still think the Persians will somehow beat him. I predict a Minas Tirith-like scene with the elephants who get beaten by young Alexandros. And while we're talking about wise men; What's up with good ol' Albie?

Also, I think Andie's missing a chance here with the situation in Persia; He should wait until the Mongols reach Baghdad, and then march down to Persia with a grand army and repel the Mongol invasion for Gabriel; after that, he can do whatever he damn well pleases. He'll have an army in the very heart of Persia, Gabriel will have no choice but to agree with Andie's demands, no matter how ludicrous they might be.
 
Andronikos was a cold-hearted bastard already. With his wife dead, I can't imagine he'll get more civilized. His enemioes better watch their step.

Looking forward to see Alexandros "martial: 21" Komnenos perform in the next Prsian-Mongol brawl.
 
Say what you want about Andronikos, his brilliance or his flaws, but he is a truly tragic figure. Everything he touches, eventually dies. Or rather, everyone he loves die. His father, his uncle, now his wife. He is, indeed, cursed with bad luck.

By the way, what about his mother, Anastasia? We haven't seen her in a while. Is she up to something, as the emperors' mothers úsually have had some behind-the-scenes plotting to do?

A bit unrelated to the current story, what is going on in Russia at this time? We know that the mongols have been kicked back across the Volga, and that the Danes control much of modern Ukraine, but what about the rest, Novgorod, Moscow etc?
 
I fail to see what Rome has to gain from mongols in Persia, seems a bit like kinslayer-by-proxy
I'm guessing Rome will only jump to beside Persia when she's near her death and Andronikos will be like "Hey Gabriel, I saved your butt so I'll be the one who will make the terms."

the rebirth of Alexander the Great! The irony is he is now fighting for Persia!
 
Well, you'll have to petition Mr. AlexanderPrimus for another Antemios update! (Yup, just shoved the buck down the line! :)

Petition AlexanderPrimus most piteously, and perhaps he'll deign to grant us the end of the story at some point? (*kicks the request AP's way* )

Well, I'm sure they all know where to find me if they would like to petition about Scottish Story Part 3. (Hint, hint. Go to my AARland "home" @ the top link in my signature.) I'm sure I could be persuaded to oblige any requests, given the right motivation. ;)
 
Enewald - Alexandros' martial is insane, but its not unique. Clemente Kosaca (Basil's right hand man) had a martial of 20, and there was Basil's 24, of course. Should Alex the Younger live to use it, he could certainly join the upper stratosphere of Roman commanders from the period. If he survives, of course--even Basil with his 24 got thumped badly in his first major battle...

AlexanderPrimus - The dichotomy of the two struggles of life and death was completely unintentional actually. The update needed a major dose of politics from around Romanion, but needed to address the loss of Cecilia... that just seemed the most natural way of writing it. Thank you for the compliments, though! :)

asd21593 - The real question is, how does Andronikos deal with his grief? Does he go into seclusion? Does he go on a murderous rampage? We don't know--that's been left hanging...

Zzzzz... - That would be a rather devious plan... force Gabriel to accept terms in return for saving Persia. That's if Andie doesn't plan on simply letting Gabriel hang where he is...

FrozenWall - Well, Gabriel et al have been the greatest threat to Andronikos since his coronation--Andie could be calculating that Persia is so far removed and so hard to control that Arghun won't be a threat like Gabriel would. Or, could Andie be up to something else? Is he up to anything at all?

vanin - Anastasia has kind of disappeared from the story, at least for the time being. She may or may not return at a future date, we'll have to see. And yes, Andie's life has been rather tragic so far--losing his father when he was a toddler, then his uncle when he was a child, and now the love of his life. It'd be enough to drive many people to drink, or worse...

Qorten - Andronikos was rather emotionless to begin with... remove the one thing that genuinely got emotion out of him? Are you left with a ruthless automaton of an emperor? Or someone that'll let loneliness and loss get the best of them?

vadermath - There are definitely parallels between Andronikos and Demetrios losing the loves of their lives so early on. The big question is will Andie recover better than Demetrios did? As for the Mongols, their invasion is hurried and not as equipped as Arghun would like, but they're still coming with a vast host against a Persia whose armies are divided. Arghun's got local superiority, and can potentially destroy the Persian armies in detail. One thing is for sure--it'd be doubtful there'd be a Minas Tirith--Arghun wouldn't deploy his elephants in a siege, that's what the endless mass of Indian levies are for...

...as for Albie, we'll hear from him one last time in the coming updates...

Leviathan07 - Considering he's suddenly the most eligible bachelor in Europe, and his hand could cement a lasting, powerful alliance or two, it's inevitable he'll remarry. Whether he'll love that wife, or even respect her, is a major question, however. As for Andie talking about strategic matters as his wife is giving birth, its partly an outgrowth of what I see Andie wanting to do when he's nervous and stressed. He's a "policy wonk"--he loves the minutae of policy and intrigue, and I can see him retreating to that when he's nervous about something outside his control (like his wife giving birth)--its a distraction that helps him psychologically feel in control. *shrug*

Laur - That's a good point. Cecilia was definitely a moderating influence on Andronikos--fiscally, and likely morally. Without her, will his ego and his ruthlessness take over? We'll have to see!

Kirsch27 - It was doubtful that Andie would have become a Basil-like family man... he doesn't share Basil's beliefs, or Basil's chivalry. That might be the better thing for Romanion though--Basil's family squabbles resulted in a civil war and the formation of the Western Empire after his death... as for Alex, one thing is for sure. If he wears a bright purple cape into battle, he will be easy to see! :)

Sergei Meranov - I'm sure others would disagree about assessing Andronikos as "reasonable," (;))but in family life, yes, he was at least happy--something few of the Komnenid emperors have enjoyed...

RGB - The sun does go down from there, but you only see it if the sun is out and its not a blustery, rainy day...

Tommy4ever - Ego the size of a continent isn't a flaw? :rofl: Cecilia's loss is going to definitely shake him up psychologically--maybe you'll get your wish? :)

Vesimir - Out of curiosity, what is so special about Dihistan? :p


EDIT - Next update is about half done, sitting at 5 pages. Wholly in Persia, I'll let you know. You can deduce what that could mean. :)
 
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As for Andie's impending mental collapse, he does still have his kids, though if they go (which for whatever reason seems likely, he''l most likely be gone completely.
 
Before Andronikos has had a clear-cut reason and enemy to blame his misfortunes on, i.e. Mongols, Gabriel, Albrecht and so on. This time the cause is out of his control: He's lost a child and a wife in labour, and God gives and God takes. If I remember correctly Andronikos wasn't exactly the most pious of the emperors, so how will he act? I don't think he'd go as far as to completely denounce Christ, but I wouldn't be amazed if he did.
 
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I don't think he'd go as far as to completely denounce Christ, but I wouldn't be amazed if he did.

I'd certainly hope not, for his sake!
I don't think that'd go over too well with, uh, ANYBODY.
Even the Muslims and the Aionites would prefer a christian emperor to an atheist/anti-religious emperor, I'm sure.
I can already see prominent imams declaring an openly atheist Andronikos the anti-christ or something similar, and demanding his head.
And I don't think the other European kingdoms would be very happy with the greatest power in the world having an atheist leader, either,
and since the Catholics haven't really got to go on any of those oh-so-fun crusades to the holy land, they might suddenly feel that Jesusly Itch they've been ignoring for so long.
Muslims Jihad-ing, Catholics Crusading, and the rest of Orthodoxy shunning, it almost sounds like a Christmas carol gone wrong, and I certainly can't see a more terrible threat to Romanion right now, so let's hope for Byzantium's sake that Andronikos keeps his faith, or at least pretends to love Jesus convincingly enough.
 
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Hmm, my earlier reply must have gotten eaten by the Forum... I'll just re-write it.

General_BT are you going to write any more What Ifs? If you do, I think an incredibly interesting one would be: What if Sophie had died in childbirth? Perhaps dying giving birth to Thomas. What would Basil have done with only one son from his beloved wife?
 
I'd certainly hope not, for his sake!
I don't think that'd go over too well with, uh, ANYBODY.
Even the Muslims and the Aionites would prefer a christian emperor to an atheist/anti-religious emperor, I'm sure.
I can already see prominent imams declaring an openly atheist Andronikos the anti-christ or something similar, and demanding his head.
And I don't think the other European kingdoms would be very happy with the greatest power in the world having an atheist leader, either,
and since the Catholics haven't really got to go on any of those oh-so-fun crusades to the holy land, they might suddenly feel that Jesusly Itch they've been ignoring for so long.
Muslims Jihad-ing, Catholics Crusading, and the rest of Orthodoxy shunning, it almost sounds like a Christmas carol gone wrong, and I certainly can't see a more terrible threat to Romanion right now, so let's hope for Byzantium's sake that Andronikos keeps his faith, or at least pretends to love Jesus convincingly enough.

"that Jesusly Itch they've been ignoring for so long" : Nice term!! :rofl:

However as for atheism, I'm not sure the contemporaries would understand that concept even if you explained it to them. What's a medieval atheist? Someone who doesn't pray? It's not like there is a doctrine of rationality that would in any way stand separate from church teachings. And actively going against the clergy would just not make sense, even if he hated religion.

The church is what keeps society together. It is impossible to envision a medieval society without a church, it has so many roles and functions - it's the #1 charity, it's the welfare organization, it's the debating club for every imaginable social or philosophical question, it's the educational institution for all levels of society, it's the road to advancement for intelligent but poor people, it's at the same time the socialist party and the imperialist party of its time, it's the fountain of wisdom and at the same time and the source of all prejudices and the greatest censor the world ever had.

If Andronikos lost his faith he could just leave the bishops to their affairs, tell the patriarch he's busy whenever he visits, and disfavor the church in all material questions. Actively going against the church though would be anarchism, unthinkable for a man his station no matter how bad his temper is.