Map requests: Britain

[Earl Uhtred]

There's a few little things I'd like to lobby for at this stage of design.

Obviously we don't know how big the map's going to be, so can't usefully go into much detail, but some things need preventing at an early stage

- No 'The Grampians'. Nobody called those mountains that before some tool misread 'Mons Graupius' in the C19 and felt a pseudo-classical name was more legit than the local ones. And the name wasn't ever officially applied to the region until '74. Truth be told I have something against the word, it grates on me.

- No 'Strathclyde'. Again, nobody called it that between the thirteenth century and 1974. 'Clydesdale' is preferable for the Ayrshire - Lanarkshire - Glasgow region.

- No 'Anglia', another unwelcome legacy of the EU boardgame. Anglia equals England - ask any Pole. The use of 'Anglia' for East Anglia may do for Alan Partridge or privatised train companies but not for The Likes of Us. This would require splitting London off, I suppose, but that's probably something needs doing anyway.

This is pure pedantry of course, but there are more important changes could do to be made. Including putting a border province in Scotland to discourage the weird-looking enclave you often get in Edinburgh after a couple of Anglo-Scots wars.

On the basis of suggestions I made in the EU2 graphics modification forum, XieChengnuo did this, and except that Northumberland shouldn't border Clydesdale and Edinburgh should maybe be 'Lothian', it's perfect, IMO.

 

[unmerged(45977)]

Imo this would make England way too powerful because they have way too much provinces. If EUIII has the same factory rules as EUII, England could spam its land with factories making it way to strong.

 

[unmerged(53986)]

If anything, england wouldnt achive any level of power atall.
Or atleast that was the case in eu2.

Quickly driven from france and then french and spaniards dividing up the island between them... maybe a few colonies in america, but that was it. A very sad power.. or did anyone ever see england conquering india or colonising australia on its own..?

 

[Mowers]

nice work

 

[Earl Uhtred]

Imo this would make England way too powerful because they have way too much provinces. If EUIII has the same factory rules as EUII, England could spam its land with factories making it way to strong.

We don't know much of what they've got in store for us yet - no harm chucking some ideas into the arena.

 

[Basileios I]

It looks more realistic and it would be great if Paradox had modeled Britain like this.

 

[Crookback]

I agree with such ideas. I also like Kasperus' British Isles.

 

[Owl]

I like the map better than vanilla EU2 but it needs a separate London province, I think.

 

[unmerged(53986)]

It looks more realistic and it would be great if Paradox had modeled Britain like this.

I say model it whatever way that works better than the somewhat pathetic performance by England in eu2
Might be more about ai than map, but if it makes yu happy!

 

[Sleepyhead]

I don't want an EUII map for EUIII

Oh and when will we see a Polish province request?

 

[Grosshaus]

Personal opinion: The more you add provinces, the worse the game gets

 

[unmerged(53986)]

Personal opinion: The more you add provinces, the worse the game gets

?

Imperial glory next then i suppose...

 

[Ayeshteni]

I agree with such ideas. I also like Kasperus' British Isles.

I prefer Kasperus' British map. The one given in the original post makes me cringe. Perth province all the way up to Aberdeen and Huntley? Ugh no.

Ayeshteni

 

[Basileios I]

The names in Scotland, Ireland and Wales should be Celtic, the proper language/culture of these regions.

 

[Ayeshteni]

viola

a much better solution for Scotland if you ask me.

Ayeshteni

 

[fraese]

What colorscales are those? Looks neato

 

[King]

viola

a much better solution for Scotland if you ask me.

Ayeshteni

Disagree, for a start Berwick was conquered by England in 1482 (and formally annexed to England in 1746). Your province border has the little kink for Berwick being the otherside of the border, Berwick is a silly name if you ask me. If we are using regions for provinces then I would have your Berwick province being Dunfries, since that is the largest county in that area. Personally I would ditch the Gailic names, they look crap.

 

[Earl Uhtred]

The names in Scotland, Ireland and Wales should be Celtic, the proper language/culture of these regions.

Not in Scotland - by 1453 Gaelic was more or less restricted to the Highlands and islands.

 

[Ayeshteni]

Disagree, for a start Berwick was conquered by England in 1482 (and formally annexed to England in 1746). Your province border has the little kink for Berwick being the otherside of the border, Berwick is a silly name if you ask me. If we are using regions for provinces then I would have your Berwick province being Dunfries, since that is the largest county in that area. Personally I would ditch the Gailic names, they look crap.

no and no.

Keeping the Gaelic name for the Highlands is VERY fitting, being heavily Gaelicised throughout the period (including the '1745')

Having a 'buffer' province between England and the Scottish Central belt makes a heack of a lot of sense, and 'Berwick' was a constant bone of contention between the two countries for donkeys. (As to the English 'nick' at Berwick that could be ironned out)

Ayeshteni

 

[King]

no and no.

Keeping the Gaelic name for the Highlands is VERY fitting, being heavily Gaelicised throughout the period (including the '1745')

Having a 'buffer' province between England and the Scottish Central belt makes a heack of a lot of sense, and 'Berwick' was a constant bone of contention between the two countries for donkeys. (As to the English 'nick' at Berwick that could be ironned out)

Ayeshteni

You heavily Gaelicised arguement does not really wash with me. The Russians were heavily into their cyrillic alphabet at that time, shall we print all the Russian province names in cyrillic? All I want is a map with province names I understand, not ones that will win me a game of scrabble.

As for Berwick before anything is decided what you would probably want to ask the great god to tell us, is what naming conventions they will be using for provinces. In HoI it was towns, in CK it was titles, and in EUIII it is .... we 'um .... I don't know. If the naming convention is you name it after a town in a neighbouring province, then I am more than happy for Berwick to be called Berwick. Otherwise I think a new name will be required.