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Fiftypence: Someplace closer? :D And thank you! :)

phargle: Nice tactic and one techincally doable right now, as a common opening move with these counties is to usurp the Deuheuberth title since you control 2/3 of the title, then go get it and be Duke yourself. :D

I'm unfortunately too busy this week to update, but I should have some time next week.
 
When can we expect the next update?
 
I'm sure you have already figured out where you are going, so I won't make any sugestions but :rolleyes:

I personally like to go after the Malorca Islands inbetween Spain, and North Africa. They always seem to end up in a war in Spain, leaving the islands undefended. They aren't rich, but they are positioned nicely to be able to take advantage of other wars in Spain, or North Africa

But enough about me, do what you think best. I look forward to your next update
 
Quirinus308: An interesting option, but they more troops than Tripoli and the distance unfortunately isn't that much shorter. :)
 
For three long years, he'd toiled in Finland, seiging the pagans. And for what, in the end? So that the smug Governor of Iceland could swoop in and force his superior numbers to be the ones to take the county when the gates fell as they must.

Cadwgan winced as he shifted in his seat. The fever never left him after that rash storming of the Finnish fort, though the injury had thankfully healed. Untold numbers of priests and medicine men came to him in Finland, but the healing rites he paid them to perform could not heal his sickness.

And now here he was in Wales once more, in the spring of 1070. Glamgoran was a wasteland, having been looted by the Suomi tribe when they attacked the count's main domain. The treasury sat bankrupt to the tune of almost 300 goldoons.

As the Count of two small counties sat there, looking at the faded tapestries of the heroes of Welsh legends, he mused on all that had happened. The King of Norway and the Duke of Connacht had both come calling for an alliance, as had the Duke of Brittany, who was now at war with the Kingdoms of Castile and Navarra. Both those Iberian Kingdoms fought with the Kingdom of Aragon, who looked doomed in any case. The young German King Heinrich took Wolgast from the Mecklemburg pagans and there were signs coming from the East that the Byzantines were having trouble with the Seljuk Turks.

It might be time to revisit these offers of alliance, reflected Cadwgan. Although he hadn't wanted to attack his fellow Christians, such might become necessary in order to secure a new homeland for his countrymen, far removed from the menace of England.

Yes, that would be what must be done.

The Count sighed and reached for the wine bottle near him. Things had taken their toll on him and there wasn't a day when he had a moment's peace.

But if he could just find a new safe haven, then everything would be all right...

Cadwgan soon found that no one was willing to ally with an impoverished Welsh count, particularly not one who'd spurned prior alliances. In need of finding a better chancellor and locating more income, he at last decided to get married.

A dearth of acceptable women in the noble line all across Europe forced him to marry Margaret Athelling, a Saxon courtier taking refuge with a Jimenez and a Ruriovich, among other illustrious familiy names, in the King of Scotland's court.

Although best suited to be a Spymaster, she took the chancellor's position posthaste and set about trying to find an alliance for Cadwgan and to locate a husband for the replaced Eva Meriadoc.

Their wedding took place on June 16, 1070 and two days later, a terrible threat emerged to the Welsh nation.

William the Conqueror and Phillipe Capet, King of France, declared war on the Duchy of Gwynedd and County of Perfweddad in support of William's claims on the latter county.

The Norman lion was spreading his jaws and beginning to devour Wales. Time was running short.

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The new bride
 
And so the inevitable Norman conquest of Wales begins. With the failure in Finland, I fear the Meriadoc's time draws near. :(
 
Fiftypence said:
And so the inevitable Norman conquest of Wales begins. With the failure in Finland, I fear the Meriadoc's time draws near. :(

I fear the same thing, but perhaps something will come along to save them in the end. :)

I certainly do seem cursed with these independent counties. :D
 
If even Finland is to difficult to conquer then you are in trouble.

There still is one option though, admit defeat and ask king William to become his vassal
 
Specialist290: Interesting fact! I was wondering why the family name looked so familiar. :) But right now, survival is my main goal. :D

EvilSanta: I tried taking Finland and darn near succeeded too, but then the Governor of Iceland came along and said, "Hmm. Nice county. I think I'll take it! Thanks for doing all the hard work for me!" I think the bastard overheard the earlier comment in this thread that I should go for Iceland and got revenge. :D

Veldmaarschalk: Oh yeah, I'm in major trouble. But I don't think I need to acquiesce to William just yet and in any case, I'd rather lose the game than pledge myself to anyone in order to stay true to the roleplay. Fear not, though! I still may have one or two tricks up my sleeve.. or so I'm hoping. :D
 
Just remember that even if you lose to England, if you wave your private parts at them, then they still may make a movie about you in a thousand years or so... :rofl:
 
"What are our choices?"

The Count's question weighed heavily on his entire court. Although the Duke of Gywnedd made peace with King William only a few short days before without giving up any territory, all present were well aware that the reprieve was only a temporary one. Furthermore, Gwynedd still warred with France.

"Our offers of alliance continue to be rejected by everyone" replied Margaret, lines in her face from the many hours of dealing with her stressed husband and the courts she'd traveled to in order to find a friend for Glamgoran, "We must find someone who is also friendless and willing to help us."

"We might also consider just giving into William. That'd solve the problem very easily" Iestyn the hated Spymaster suggested.

All of them glared at the unfavoured son, none more so than his father Gwrgant who had just reached his sixtieth year.

"Never! We will never bow to that bastard Norman swine!" swore the marshal as he gripped his sword, "And if you consider such a thing again, I'll slay you myself!"

"Peace, Gwrgant" murmured Cadwgan, "We must not fall to quarreling amongst ourselves, no matter how unworthy the people we are forced to get along with."

Iestyn said nothing, for he knew well enough that no matter how much Gwrgant hated him, his father's inheritance belonged to him and him alone as the only son. The thought made him smile.

After a long pause, the Count stood and looked outside at the lush summer countryside, rubbing his beard and frowning.

"We will take your advice, Margaret, and seek out someone who is also without friend in the world. No doubt they shall be difficult to find, but if we are to establish a new country, we must find a way. Continue to look for a husband for Eva and see about getting a new bride for Iestyn as well. Maybe she will be able to keep him from his fool's talk."

For two months, all diplomatic efforts on each front failed miserably until October 7th, 1070, a single day after the Kingdom of Aragon fell to the Kingdom of Navarra.

The Duke of Brittany, now needing an ally, sent a messenger to Count Cadwgan, expressing a desire to form an alliance. The pact was speedily accepted and at long last, the counties of Glamgoran and Gwent had a friend, and a fairly powerful one at that.

This new friend was still at war with Castile and Navarra however, and so the court decided it was in the best interests of the two counties to wait for the conflict to be concluded before pressing their claims on a territory away from Britian.

By mid-November, hostilities with both kingdoms ceased, Brittany awarded 239 goldoons by the Kingdom of Navarra.

Seeing an opportunity with his ally's armies already in place, Cadwgan Meriadoc made the bold move of claiming title to the County of Asturias de Oviedo in the neighbouring Kingdom of Leon. King Alfonso immediately declared war on Glamgoran in support of his vassal, Duke Hoel following suit by declaring war on Leon.

This in fact was a dangerous undertaking for the Kingdom of Leon, already at war with the Sheiks of Valencia and Castellon, along with the powerful Emir of Toledo. No doubt this information was known to the cunning Cadwgan, who sent Marshal Gwrgant with the Gwent regiment down to Iberia. The Glamgoran troops were still too minimal to bother with, for the county hadn't yet recovered from the earlier pagan invasion.

The campaign was an unmitigated disaster. Despite early gains made by Brittany, the defenses in Asturias de Oviedo consisted of the first actual castle that many of the Welshmen had ever seen and Leon roared back after swiftly making peace with the Muslims, quickly smashing Gwrgant's troops and scattering both armies.

Coupled with this crushing defeat, Iestyn died in December of 1071 and so it was an unhappy beginning to 1072, with the treasury now almost 400 goldoons in the red and things going nowhere.

Heartbroken and depressed, never recovering from his illness from Finland, Cadwgan Meriadoc passed away on March 26, 1072.

A minor clerk in Gwent recorded the Count's life in this way.

Cadwgan Meriadoc the Beatified (r. 1066-1072 Count of Glamgoran and Gwent)

He dreamt of a new Welsh homeland from the moment he assumed power, but never succeeded. A campaign against pagans in Finland nearly succeeded but was taken from him in the last hour by the traitorous Governor of Iceland. An alliance with the Duchy of Brittany gave some small ray of hope, but in the midst of a disasterous effort in Iberia, Cadwgan Meriadoc passed away with no new lands gained.

While he married Margaret Aethling, descendant of the old line of Saxon kings, the couple failed to produce an heir before his death, causing the Counties to be passed to his marshal and cousin, the legendary 62 year old Gwrgant Meriadoc.

His exploits against the pagans and his faithfulness to his noble cause led to his being beatified by the Church, thus earning him a spiritual reward even in spite of his temporal failures.

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The ally, no longer such with Cadwgan's death

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On the bright side, he's the first guy I've ever had beatified in all my years of CK

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Can you say short reign? Oh yeah. I'll try and get him married off anyway, so he can hopefully have a son and not have one of his lackluster grandkids inherit.
 
Quirinus308 said:
Just remember that even if you lose to England, if you wave your private parts at them, then they still may make a movie about you in a thousand years or so... :rofl:

:D Which movie is this, by the way?
 
Obviously not braveheart, but you know how Hollywood loves to copycat a success. But in light of the latest post, I think all we are looking at is a 30 minute documentary on the History Channel. ;)

Seriously, you've had a real run of bad luck, but I like that you've taken it and stuck with the story. I'm confused though. If Iestyn is the son of Gwrgant, shouldn't he be next in line when Gwrgant dies, and not some lackluster grandkids?
 
Quirinus308 said:
Obviously not braveheart, but you know how Hollywood loves to copycat a success. But in light of the latest post, I think all we are looking at is a 30 minute documentary on the History Channel. ;)

Seriously, you've had a real run of bad luck, but I like that you've taken it and stuck with the story. I'm confused though. If Iestyn is the son of Gwrgant, shouldn't he be next in line when Gwrgant dies, and not some lackluster grandkids?

Thanks for the compliment! :)

As for Iestyn, the last update points out why he can't rule :)

Coupled with this crushing defeat, Iestyn died in December of 1071 and so it was an unhappy beginning to 1072, with the treasury now almost 400 goldoons in the red and things going nowhere.
 
You might pledge loyalty to someone other than England. Scotland, France and even Brittany are all possibilities to forstall conquest. For me, I submitted to England early on and that did the trick - their first conquests were always in Ireland, and that war drained their treasury a lot.
 
Gwrgant ! Those Welsh names are sometimes so cool

North Africa -> failed
Finland -> failed
Iberia -> failed

I see only one way out and that is Ireland. :)
 
Jestor said:
As for Iestyn, the last update points out why he can't rule :)

Ah, I misread that one.