Just wondering, how far off the rails do the 769 Karlings usually get? This is the first time I've done a sustained game from the start date (doing the Fylkir thing), and so far:
-I think Karloman died and Charlie got booted by a tyranny revolt almost instantly and simultaneously (before I even noticed), unlanding him completely and replacing them with their sister Gisela in West Francia (I set gender equality full as I do about 50% of the time) and some kid in Middle
-Charlie then proceeded to find someone to press a claim I guess he had on Bavaria and go from unlanded to King again, somehow, and then married the Byzantine Empress, which is frankly a staggering comeback
(that is indeed the history for Middle Francia, it's just a screenshot I took in shock when I noticed what he was listed as king of)
-He then kicked the Lombards out of Italy and turned it into Bavaria!
-Meanwhile Gisela is just kind of doing all the Charlemagne things while he runs around off the rails. She burned the Irminsul, swallowed Saxony, formed East Francia--and gave me a real jump when I saw Francia change from blue to grey and thought for a terrified moment she'd formed the HRE. In fact she'd just made East Francia her primary title, but she can't be far from being able to form the HRE in the near future.
Though there was a great bit where a Germanic Saxon revolt tried to resist her rule, and then got a good old Revolt Revolt from the Catholics under them...
In any case, I just wanted to lay out the sequence of events as a reference point. I don't have much experience with how things usually go in this start date. Is there usually this much variance? (Feel free to relate any particularly fun versions you've seen happen)
-I think Karloman died and Charlie got booted by a tyranny revolt almost instantly and simultaneously (before I even noticed), unlanding him completely and replacing them with their sister Gisela in West Francia (I set gender equality full as I do about 50% of the time) and some kid in Middle
![D8ldox5XoAUgh4n.jpg](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8ldox5XoAUgh4n.jpg)
![D8p9ItyXkAAUcjl.png](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8p9ItyXkAAUcjl.png)
-Charlie then proceeded to find someone to press a claim I guess he had on Bavaria and go from unlanded to King again, somehow, and then married the Byzantine Empress, which is frankly a staggering comeback
![D8336IrWsAIijeU.jpg](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8336IrWsAIijeU.jpg)
(that is indeed the history for Middle Francia, it's just a screenshot I took in shock when I noticed what he was listed as king of)
-He then kicked the Lombards out of Italy and turned it into Bavaria!
![D86BsZpWsAA_AbF.jpg](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D86BsZpWsAA_AbF.jpg)
-Meanwhile Gisela is just kind of doing all the Charlemagne things while he runs around off the rails. She burned the Irminsul, swallowed Saxony, formed East Francia--and gave me a real jump when I saw Francia change from blue to grey and thought for a terrified moment she'd formed the HRE. In fact she'd just made East Francia her primary title, but she can't be far from being able to form the HRE in the near future.
![D8346G7XUAA-A4j.jpg](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8346G7XUAA-A4j.jpg)
Though there was a great bit where a Germanic Saxon revolt tried to resist her rule, and then got a good old Revolt Revolt from the Catholics under them...
![D8utBNGXYAEOTkT.jpg](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8utBNGXYAEOTkT.jpg)
In any case, I just wanted to lay out the sequence of events as a reference point. I don't have much experience with how things usually go in this start date. Is there usually this much variance? (Feel free to relate any particularly fun versions you've seen happen)