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Nodscouterr said:
First of all, I would like to offer my sincere thanks for the welcoming into the Chamber of Deputies. I have fought for this country, time and time again, and to see fellow Belgians, fellow Deputies, welcome me into this sacred chamber fills me with pride for this country, and hope for the future. That we can put aside our political differences to show that we are brothers, compatriots, in our search for truth and justice show the Belgian people that your presence here was not a mistake. When I return home tonight, I will raise a glass in honour of you all.

Now, I must move on to less pleasant issues. The idea that women should be able to vote - I'll admit that I cannot stomach it. Are you so dissatisfied with our democracy that you must shake its very foundation in this manner? Let me remind you all that it is first and foremost men who go to the universities. Were we to give women the right to vote, we would suddenly bring in a gigantic mass of uneducated voters. No, I say that we build our democracy upon stable foundations, the same foundations that have served coups, revolutions and wars alike. There is no need for this change. Let me finally also say this: Allowing women the right to vote is cruelty to the women themselves. They have found peace with their husbands and found a stable job in raising the children, cooking and cleaning the home, and now you wish to pull them into the world of politics? To say that you liberals and socialists are fighting for women is damned lie, and I will not stand for it.

Suffrage Amendment: Nay
[RU]

- Maximiliaan Willem de Haan
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Much like it is the privilege of old men to be self-regarding, it is the privilege of great minds to think alike. Welcome to the Chambers, Maximiliaan.

- Senator Sir Maximiliaan van Brabant, OPL
First Prime Minister of Belgium (GLP, '36-'40)
 
Andre Massena said:
Both men and women work, whether at home or in a profession. So why not accord them the same rights?

And the aristocratic women who do have leisure time often spend it at political clubs, so they are often have better political instincts than most men.
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Only women are by nature irrational. Surely, we don't want extremist parties to rise up again, simply because they play the minds of the weaker sex?

- Senator Sir Maximiliaan van Brabant, OPL
 
Gen. Marshall said:
Only women are by nature irrational. Surely, we don't want extremist parties to rise up again, simply because they play the minds of the weaker sex?

- Senator Sir Maximiliaan van Brabant, OPL
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de Leeuw whispers to a fellow BSU deputy "It's true that women provide trouble, but they should have voting rights, then they have something better to do then bothering us..."
 
Suffrage Amendment: Yes

[Lib Dem]
 
Gen. Marshall said:
Only women are by nature irrational. Surely, we don't want extremist parties to rise up again, simply because they play the minds of the weaker sex?

- Senator Sir Maximiliaan van Brabant, OPL
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Are you afraid of touching a woman, van Brabant? Are you a homosexual?
 
Scrapknight said:
((In 1880, probably yes. Nowadays, it's obviously quite different. Let's leave this conversation at that, shall we?))
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((Yeah, come on, let's leave the ahistoricality at women's suffrage in the 1890's. Not too ahistorical mind you, just a little ahead of Denmark, but still!))
 
Andre Massena said:
((I didn't want to get too progressive :laugh:

I didn't realize how late the world adopted women's suffrage so I apologize to de Coock, but Amedee sure as hell won't :D))
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((To be fair, most countries before WW1 didn't have socialist governments either, yet we've had the BSU be a coalition partner in a very left-leaning government, and be the largest party, which didn't start to happen in European countries until WW1.)) I am in favour of women's suffrage in the highest degree.
 
((Tally. Voting for the Suffrage Amendment has been along strict party lines. The Amendment is passing by a comfortable margin.))

RU: [43]

Suffrage Amendment: 0/4/0 [0, 43, 0]

BSU: [55]

Suffrage Amendment: 6/0/1 [47, 0, 8]

NDP: [40]

Suffrage Amendment: 4/0/0 [40, 0, 0]

GLP: [32]

Suffrage Amendment: 2/0/2 [16, 0, 16]

LDP: [18]

Suffrage Amendment: 3/0/0 [18, 0, 0]

BCU: [6]

Suffrage Amendment: 0/0/1 [0, 0, 6]

SDP: [6]

Suffrage Amendment: 1/0/0 [6, 0, 0]

Totals:
Suffrage Amendment: 15/4/4 [127, 43, 30]
 
((The previous vote is now closed, and now we have... more voting! Hooray! Women's suffrage has passed.))


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Vote on the [post=17102663]Accountability Act[/post], [post=17102663]Referendum Amendment and Execution Act[/post], and the [post=17102663]African Union Act[/post].

Sample Ballot:

[post=17102663]Accountability Act[/post]: Yes/No/Abstain
[post=17102663]Referendum Amendment and Execution Act[/post]: Yes/No/Abstain
[post=17102663]African Union Act[/post]: Yes/No/Abstain

[RU/BSU/NDP/LDP/GLP/BCU/SDP] ((Densley, don't forget this part!))

This vote will end at 8 PM PDT 3/23 (or 3 AM 3/24 GMT, assuming the date is not changed by popular referendum)
 
Accountability Act: Nay

A good idea in theory, but I worry it will slow government to a crawl with conservatives objecting to every individual socialist minister.

Referendum Amendment and Execution Act: Aye

This should settle the matter once and for all.

African Union Act : Aye

To be honest, I never read the full text of these African governance bills. But it seems sensible enough.

[BSU]

-Amedee Dupointe
 
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Accountability Act: Nay

A good idea in theory, but I worry it will slow government to a crawl with radical socialists objecting to every individual other minister.

Referendum Amendment and Execution Act: Nay

African Union Act : Nay

[MLP]

- Lord Minister, Sir Andrei Popa Vanderhoof, KL, Deputy of Ghent. Minister of Labour and Minister of Flanders
 
Accountability Act: Aye

Hopefully we won't have anti-patriotic corrupt ministers anymore.

Referendum Amendment and Execution Act: Absolutely never in 1,000,000 years No.

Why is this being proposed again? Republicanism is inherently satanic, so why do we contemplate embracing it?

African Union Act : Aye

Makes more send then the current quasi-republican nonsense we currently have.

[RU]

((I just realized the main right wing party in this has the same acronym as the main left wing part in FOE.))

- Jules van de Velde
 
Dadarian said:
Accountability Act: Nay

A good idea in theory, but I worry it will slow government to a crawl with radical socialists objecting to every individual other minister.

Referendum Amendment and Execution Act: Nay

African Union Act : Nay

[MLP]

- Lord Minister, Sir Andrei Popa Vanderhoof, KL, Deputy of Ghent. Minister of Labour and Minister of Flanders
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(:)rofl:))
 
Accountability Act: Abstain
Referendum Amendment and Execution Act: Nay
African Union Act: Aye

The amendment on the situation in Africa is definitely more incising than the socialist legislation we have in place currently.

Valentin-Alexandre Klinkenberg,
MP for Schaerbeek
 
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