Where are the lacetani?

[Indíbil]

Hi, i have seen the new map of Iberia but i could not locate the lacetani. This people were in the central zone of Catalonia, limiting with Ausetanis and Indigetes (the latin name of Indiketia), having cities like Bakasis (currently Manresa), Iespus (Igualada) or Anabis (Tàrrega). Also there is a mistake with Emporion because its north territory should be an other greek colony: Rhode (currently Empordà).

Source:
https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhode
http://patrimoni.gencat.cat/ca/article/la-ruta-dels-ibers-historia-i-natura-al-pais-dels-lacetans
https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lacetans
http://historiesmanresanes.blogspot.com.es/2009/01/els-topnims-manresa-i-bages.html
http://blogs.sapiens.cat/socialsenxarxa/2010/07/07/els-ibers/

 

[lucaluca]

Who?

 

[Indíbil]

Who?

Like these guys

 

[DreadLindwyrm]

Are they there under a different name?

 

[Indíbil]

Are they there under a different name?

No, they are inside Ausetania and Indiketia. Both of them forms a rare frontier at centre, where it should be Lacetania (Laketania, Lacetani).

 

[abian363]

We could say the same for the Berones, which is currently my land.



PD: I like you name but Mandonio is better XD.

 

[Indíbil]

It would be great if Paradox put the contingent of iberian cultures because they had a lot of importance in the Punic Wars, i know that there are a lot but...

Here a map that shows efficiently the puzzle of iberian cultures. At N-E you can see the Lacetani, there are smaller than other but they were enough important to be in the game.

 

[Indíbil]

We could say the same for the Berones, which is currently my land.



PD: I like you name but Mandonio is better XD.

I had to choose one !

PD: Nice land yours, and beautiful old language.

 

[DreadLindwyrm]

No, they are inside Ausetania and Indiketia. Both of them forms a rare frontier at centre, where it should be Lacetania (Laketania, Lacetani).

Are you certain they're a separate tribe in the start year?
(303 CE / 450AUC)

I can't get anything useful out of English Wikipedia, and my ability to read any Spanish of any sort is sadly compromised by 23 years of being out of practice, so I can't follow the Catalan language links you have.

 

[Vityviktor]

It looks like some of the well known and broader pre-roman peoples were split in smaller (and perhaps more precise) tribes.

For example, the Carpetani (central meseta):

From Wikipedia: "Recent analysis of local epigraphic sources revealed that the Carpetani comprised some twenty-seven tribes, namely the Aelariques, Aeturiques, Arquioci, Acualiques, Bocouriques, Canbarici, Contucianci, Dagencii, Doviliques, Duitiques, Duniques, Elguismiques, Langioci, Longeidoci, Maganiques, Malugeniques, Manuciques, Maureici, Mesici, Metturici, Moenicci, Obisodiques, Pilonicori, Solici, Tirtaliques, Uloques, and Venatioques."

Now, looking at Imperator's map, you see some of this tribes are in the game.

 

[Indíbil]

Are you certain they're a separate tribe in the start year?
(303 CE / 450AUC)

I can't get anything useful out of English Wikipedia, and my ability to read any Spanish of any sort is sadly compromised by 23 years of being out of practice, so I can't follow the Catalan language links you have.

Yes, they existed between 8th - Ist centuries, but they were romanised by the 3th century BC, in the context after the Second Punic Wars.

I'll search english sources for you guys.

 

[Indíbil]

It looks like some of the well known and broader pre-roman peoples were split in smaller (and perhaps more precise) tribes.

For example, the Carpetani (central meseta):

From Wikipedia: "Recent analysis of local epigraphic sources revealed that the Carpetani comprised some twenty-seven tribes, namely the Aelariques, Aeturiques, Arquioci, Acualiques, Bocouriques, Canbarici, Contucianci, Dagencii, Doviliques, Duitiques, Duniques, Elguismiques, Langioci, Longeidoci, Maganiques, Malugeniques, Manuciques, Maureici, Mesici, Metturici, Moenicci, Obisodiques, Pilonicori, Solici, Tirtaliques, Uloques, and Venatioques."

Now, looking at Imperator's map, you see some of this tribes are in the game.

I know it but but it would be great to have the important ones and not to have mega tribes like Ausetania, that appears with more of the half of territory that is said that they had.

 

[Krajzen]

One of the best parts of paradox community is the variety of people's niche domains of historical knowledge

 

[CyberianK]

Maybe the area is just dominated by Vasconia tag and you can release them?

 

[Rhaegar1]

Here comes PDS with an Iberia featuring literally 3 times more factions as I would have ever hoped for and appearently people can com up with multiple tribes that they feel are missing AND sources to back them up or exlain about the tribe.

Not sure if I should be annoyed about what you could regard as nitpicking or amazed by how much historical knowledge and enthusiasm this community has.

I'll guess I'll go with amazed, great to see people enthusiast with the game.

 

[Indíbil]

I'm not critisizing about the game, i'm only doing a constructive complain because we will have wrong factions.

 

[Rhaegar1]

I'm not critisizing about the game, i'm only doing a constructive complain because we will have wrong factions.

That's pretty clear, as I said amazing that people know so much and want to be of help to improve the game

 

[Indíbil]

Maybe the area is just dominated by Vasconia tag and you can release them?

Vasconia never dominated him.

 

[CyberianK]

Vasconia never dominated him.

but isn't the territory you are talking about under their tag in the map?

Or is it Ilergetia?

 

[Indíbil]

but isn't the territory you are talking about under their tag in the map?

Or is it Ilergetia?

Vasconia is currently Euskadi. What i'm talking about in this post is the iberian cultures, Vasconia is a celtiberian culture.

Thanks for all comments.