Hearts of Iron IV - 28th Development Diary - Weather & Terrain
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Good question.
Is the Ladoga lake a province in winter? (where Leningrad can be supplied)
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This weather system seems more user-friendly than the HOI3 one.
I like it.
... and yes, frozen rivers, and ice not strong enough for supporting the weight of a panzer division trying to cross it ?...
I like it.
... and yes, frozen rivers, and ice not strong enough for supporting the weight of a panzer division trying to cross it ?...
You would be surprised how even thin ice will carry the weight of even a modern tank. Centimetres rather than tens of them. Then again it can be a costly mistake to drive your tank-company out onto that snow-covered "field" during winter only to discover it's not actually a field at all.
Regarding the user-friendliness, I don't like it one bit. It should be terrible to fight a war, for pixeltruppen and players alike.
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Don't the treads chew up the ice after the first tank passes, though? Some treads are bad enough for roads, but I can't imagine they are good for frozen lakes and rivers.
Not to mention how costly crossing any frozen body of water with tanks or on foot can get, if the enemy has any artillery within range.
Pardon if I missed/misunderstood it in the thread, but in regards to the terrain: is there differentiation between the land "shape" and its surface covering? i.e. desert hills, mountainous jungles, etc. or do you just pick one to be the dominant feature?
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Normal tracks are actually worthless on ice as you get very little traction and therefore simple stuff like changing the direction you're traveling in or even stopping gracefully is very hard unless the ice is rugged or covered in a thick layer of snow and then yes your tracks will chew it up. Normally though a unit crossing a river or lake on a divisional level would have timbers, branches and other types of reinforcement put on the ice if temperatures are not favourable for extended use.
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We considered removing penalty in winter for rivers, but decided not to. Basically there is a lot of things that can be wrong and especially during combat so we felt penalty should still be there.
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Indeed, I had that exact Strv122 video in mind when I wrote the post.
Legendary.CV90
(although the video says tank it's really a CV / ICV)Challenger
The Leo and Cv90 actually handles reasonably well (although Bambi-like) but it wouldn't be pretty in a battalion engagement, now imagine a 27-tonne T34 with unassisted clutch-brake steering in the same situation. Then again, it beats swimming.
River penalties are fine during winter as well but frozen conditions should be way better than mud in any case.
The Fast and the Furious: Uppsala Drift
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Also, what a drift racer might look like:
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That would be great, and ESSENTIAL to a eased realistic and reasonable combat management;
This is part of a greater and more sensible issue, and relative flaw, in this game; the impact and management of infrastructures;
Cheers for posting Wingo, an interesting read . lololol at the rocket-powered universal carrier at the end .
. lololol at the rocket-powered universal carrier at the end .
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"I know! Let's give our vehicles jump jets!"
:20 minutes later:
"...let's never do that again."
:20 minutes later:
"...let's never do that again."
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