Hello everyone and welcome to another development diary about Europa Universalis. This time we have a feature for Common Sens, that is so large that it is spread over two weeks of development diaries. It is how we interact with your subject states.

In the subjects overview screen, there is now an additional button where you can open up an interaction menu with all your subjects.

Today we’ll talk about the tools you have regarding vassals, marches and lesser union partners.

Placate Local Rulers
This can be done on both vassals and marches, and lets you pay prestige (if you have positive prestige), to reduce the liberty desire of that subject by 10%.

Embargo Rivals
This is a toggle you can put on any subject. If it is on they will embargo all your rivals as quickly as their diplomats can travel. However, this increases their liberty desire by 5% while active.

Place Relative on Throne
This can only be done on vassals, and only when they have a regency. You can replace the regency with a ruler from your own dynasty.

Enforce Religion
This can only be done on vassals, unions and marches. This is possible if the subject is in your religious group, have less than 50% of Liberty Desire, and you have positive relations. Of course, this increases Liberty Desire by 50%, so its something you have to evaluate when it is desirable to do.

Scutage
This is a toggle that can be set to on or off on a vassal. When it is on, they will not be called into wars, unless declared war upon. However, they will provide 50% more of its income to you.

Subsidize Armies
This is a toggle in marches, where if on, you will send up to 10% of your manpower to them each month, to fill up their manpower pool.

Fortify March
This allows you to build or upgrade a fort in a march, where you as overlord fronts the build costs.

Enforce Culture
This is the option if you got some diplomatic power to burn. You can swap the primary culture of a lesser union partner to your culture for a power cost, but this is only doable if they are below 50% liberty desire and it will increase it by 50% as well.

Siphon Income
Unions usually do not provide money to their overlord, but history is full of rulers who took from one part of their realm to provide for another. This action lets you take 50% of a lesser union partners yearly income if you have positive relations. It will increase liberty desire by 10% but also reduce relations rather dramatically.

Support Loyalists
Unions don’t have any local ruler that needs to be placated, so instead you have a toggle where you spend 10% of their monthly income each month, while reducing liberty desire by 20% as long as its active.

Next week we’ll talk about protectorates, trade companies and colonial nations, and their unique actions.

 

[Rooz]

The only thing that is left to do is to make vassals to actually listen to your commands in wars.

 

[tyler45455]

O..... M....... G!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edit: Thank you for all the upvotes

 

[Wizzington]

These changes look good, but I think you need to remove the 60 base tax cap for Marches. Not being able to annex them is enough IMO. You're committing a diplo relation for most likely the rest of the game, you should get some real benefits.

As it is I've never seen a reason to make a march. If they're under 60 base tax I'll annex them, and if they're big enough that diplo annexxing isn't feasible I can't make them a march. That's where I'd want it most.

Maybe scale the bonuses down a bit, but the 60 base tax limit basically assures that what could be a cool feature is never used.

March cap is gone in 1.12

 

[Wizzington]

Liberty Desire increases go away over time

 

[Duke of Britain]

Bordeaux not an end node anymore it seems! In the screenshot, we can see one of Burgundy's merchants steering trade from Bordeaux to Champagne.

 

[Wizzington]

Poland and I think Orissa start with marches, I've never seen the AI actually make a march.

AI can make (and revoke) marches in 1.12

 

[Christopholes]

So this is pretty fricking awesome.

 

[Aries666]

Johan and the guys at PDX after the release of Common sense:

 

[Wizzington]

So. No more table with list of vassals. Sad.
I like it because of it contains list of trade companies with digits of needed percent for free merchants - on one screen,

No, it's still there. This is a subscreen of that.

 

[Dr. Quaz]

 

[Johan]

These changes look good, but I think you need to remove the 60 base tax cap for Marches. Not being able to annex them is enough IMO. You're committing a diplo relation for most likely the rest of the game, you should get some real benefits.

As it is I've never seen a reason to make a march. If they're under 60 base tax I'll annex them, and if they're big enough that diplo annexxing isn't feasible I can't make them a march. That's where I'd want it most.

Maybe scale the bonuses down a bit, but the 60 base tax limit basically assures that what could be a cool feature is never used.

Marches no longer lose their bonuses when growing over the development limit.

 

[spyroware1]

I'm late to the bandwagon, but anyway. Yes these changes are amazing but please:

1) Let us send missionaries to vassals lands. Being able to force our religion to our vassals means nothing if they have no hope of converting their medium to high BT provinces. Without Religious only 2-3 BT provinces can be reliably converted. And I don't want to get LD for forcing religion just to have rebels flip them back when im at war and I can't babysit.

(historical example, Catholic Austria recatholicising Protestant Hungary under PU. Ingame Hungary would never be able to flip the rich provinces of Upper Hungary on its own!)

2) Consider adding an option where you can min/max how much tax and trade power you receive from your vassals. It's awfully unstrategic to have vassals in your home node or other key nodes. And the 0.34 ducats per month given to you is a joke. It hampers their budget a lot while it gives you no appreciable benefit whatsoever. I'd love an option where a vassal gives me all of its trade power but 0 tax.

(historical example Russia - Hordes. Ingame Russia must rush to Samarkand to get anything out of trade with the East. IRL Russia had the hordes in a semi vassal relationship while benefitting from their role as intermediaries of the the silk road)

[bonus 3) since we touched that area, please make a connection between Persia and both Astrakhan and Crimea. The area is grossly under-represented in its trade role and potential, specifically because of the lack of those two connections which where historically very important: Trebizond lived off of the Persia-Crimea connection, and the Persian carpets known in Europe as Polish rugs were exported through Astrakhan]

 

[Wizzington]

Is the AI going to be able to use subject interaction?

Yes.

 

[Wizzington]

What are the conditions for the ai to go about removing a march? Poland removing Moldovia as a march when it senses the Ottomans are too weak for example?

Generally AIs will use marches for borders with powerful rivals.

 

[johnleeyx]

Subsidize Armies
This is a toggle in marches, where if on, you will send up to 10% of your manpower to them each month, to fill up their manpower pool.

Can we have a reverse feature too? When they send us their manpower?

 

[neondt]

Sounds good. Looking forward to next week, particularly the trade companies. Still a bit disappointed with how limited they've been so far.

 

[Zelius]

Enforce Religion / Culture: How long will this 50% liberty desire last? And what happens when they are converted back by rebels?

Support Loyalists: To clarify, this is an amount paid by the senior partner equal to 10% of the lesser partner's income?

 

[Demetrios]

So... is Burgundy actually going to be split into unions for the patch, or is this just an easy way to show examples of the new interface? Because I've seen conflicting things about this.

It looks like it's going to be split, but not as bad as the first indications were - looks like we're getting Flanders, Brabant, and Holland PUs (all of which are arguably accurate), and Nevers as a vassal (definitely accurate). It would appear that a swath of territory from Picardy through Luxembourg remains part of Burgundy proper (as is correct, since those areas were purchased or conquered, and not inherited).

 

[Sexual Velociraptor]

These changes look good, but I think you need to remove the 60 base tax cap for Marches. Not being able to annex them is enough IMO. You're committing a diplo relation for most likely the rest of the game, you should get some real benefits.

As it is I've never seen a reason to make a march. If they're under 60 base tax I'll annex them, and if they're big enough that diplo annexxing isn't feasible I can't make them a march. That's where I'd want it most.

Maybe scale the bonuses down a bit, but the 60 base tax limit basically assures that what could be a cool feature is never used.