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Crusader Kings 3 Dev Diary #39 - Achievements Showcase

Greetings, dear friends, and welcome to the final pre-release dev diary! Today, we’ll be doing something nice and light, since we know you’re all hyped for the release next month, and couldn’t possibly stand the tension otherwise.

So, with that in mind, let’s have a look at what achievements you can get, and the ways of getting them. As we’re so close to release, we’ll be taking a gander at the full list!

… With apologies in advance for the puns. -_- They forced me to implement them.

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  1. A House of my Own: create a cadet branch of your dynasty.
  2. A Legacy to Last the Ages: complete an entire dynasty legacy path.
  3. A Name Known Throughout the World: have your dynasty reach the highest possible level of renown.
  4. A Perfect Circle: have only two distinct parents, grandparents, and great grandparents, counting absent ancestors as individual characters.
  5. Above God: have a strong hook on your head of faith.
  6. Al-Andalus: starting as an Iberian Muslim, control all of Iberia and take the Avenge the Battle of Tours decision.
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  1. Álmost There: as Álmos Árpád, form Hungary & convert to Christianity.
  2. An Unfortunate Accident: inherit a title from someone via murder.
  3. Bad Blood: go to war with one of your siblings over a claim.
  4. Beacon of Progress: have your culture unlock all innovations, excluding regional and culture-specific innovations.
  5. Blood Eagle: starting as any child of Ragnarr Lothbrok, conquer all of the British Isles.
  6. Carolingian Consolidation: starting as a Karling, be the only independent Karling to hold a landed title.
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  1. Celebrity: reach the highest possible level of fame.
  2. Death Did Us Part: murder your spouse.
  3. Dreadful Ruler: have the maximum amount of dread.
  4. End of an Era: play until 1453.
  5. Fine Print: use a hook to modify a feudal contract.
  6. Followed by Shadows: know ten secrets simultaneously.
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  1. For the Faith: take part in a successful Great Holy War, on either side.
  2. Frankokratia: as a French Catholic, hold and completely control the Kingdom of Thessalonika without holding or being vassalised to the Byzantine Empire.
  3. From Rags to Riches: starting as a count, lead your line to rule an empire.
  4. Give a Dog a Bone: starting as Matilda of Tuscany, lead your dynasty to rule the Kingdom of Italy, have at least fifty living dynasty members, and found a Holy Order.
  5. Going Places: as Haesteinn of Montaigu in 867, hold any kingdom-tier title.
  6. It’s not a Cult: create a faith.
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  1. Keeping it in the Family: have a child with the inbred trait.
  2. Kings to the Seventh Generation: starting as Count Eudes of Anjou in 867, lead your dynasty to rule the Kingdom of France.
  3. Know Your Place: defeat a faction in war.
  4. Land of the Rus: starting as Rurik the Troublemaker in 867, lead your dynasty to rule the Empire of Russia.
  5. Last Count, First King: starting as Duke Nuno of Portucale in 1066, form Portugal.
  6. Monumental: fully upgrade a duchy building anywhere in your personal domain.
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  1. Mother of Us All: starting as Magajiva Daura, reform an African pagan faith, and convert all counties in Africa to it.
  2. Moving up in the World: increase your rank.
  3. Non Nobis Domine: found a holy order.
  4. Norman Yoke: starting as William the Bastard in 1066, win the Norman Invasion, become English, and have only English Vassals below you in the Kingdom of England.
  5. Not So Feudal System: use the claim throne scheme successfully.
  6. Paragon of Virtue: have three or more virtuous traits.
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  1. Prolific: have one hundred living dynasty members.
  2. Reconquista: starting as an Iberian Christian, convert all of Iberia to Christianity.
  3. Rise from the Ashes: restore the Roman Empire.
  4. Royal Dignity: starting as Vratislav Premyslid in 1066, lead your dynasty to rule the Kingdom of Bohemia & the Holy Roman Empire simultaneously.
  5. Saint: reach the highest possible level of devotion.
  6. Seductive: as any one character, successfully seduce ten people.
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  1. Seven Holy Cities: as a Hindu ruler, hold all seven Hindu holy sites at the same time.
  2. Sibling Rivalry: starting as any of the Jimena siblings in 1066, become Emperor of Spain.
  3. Stressful Situation: suffer a mental break.
  4. The Emerald Isle: starting as an Irish ruler, hold the Kingdom of Ireland.
  5. The Emperor’s New Clothes: while holding any empire title, be naked.
  6. The Succession is Safe: have ten living children.
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  1. The Things Love Does for Us: have a lover save you from a murder attempt.
  2. The Things We Do for Love: murder your lover’s spouse.
  3. Trapped in the Web: have strong hooks on three direct vassals.
  4. Turning to Diamonds: reach the highest possible stress level.
  5. Until Death Do Us Part: marry another character.
  6. Way of Life: obtain every perk in a lifestyle.
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  1. What Nepotism?: have your dynasty rule ten independent realms of at least kingdom tier simultaneously.
  2. Wily as the Fox: starting as Robert the Fox in 1066, rule the Kingdom of Sicily, hold either the Kingdom of Epirus, Hellas, or Thessalonika, and convert all of its original counties to Catholicism.

And with that, we come to the end of the showcase! Anything here that particularly caught your eye, or something you’d like to have seen? I’ll be hanging around in the comments for a couple of hours afterwards, per the usual, so feel free to tag me with any questions you may have.
 
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GreatWyrmGold said:
And the Battle of the Milvian Bridge wouldn't have been a turning point in world history if Constantine hadn't converted to Christianity over it. If history had been different, certain events would be less important. What's your point?
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I was responding to a post saying the Battle of Tours didn’t matter because it was “just a raid”. My point is that it’s easy to say it was “just a raid” because they lost. If the newly converted Berbers had failed to take Iberia, then modern historians would be talking about how THAT wasn’t significant because Iberia is too far away from Islam’s Arabic base and the new converts lacked enough zeal to truly pursue conquest, so it’s not like Iberian conquest was ever really a goal or even possible.

If Charles Martel loses Tours, I think it’s very easy to see a situation in which further incursions are made into France by Islamic forces. Modern historians like to dismiss this, but they take far too many liberties to do so in my opinion.
 
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A bit sad that there are no achievements specifically for the middle east, or the Steppes; like there are for India and different parts of Europe.
 
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Absolutely love the art for all of these.

The biggest thing I appreciate about the actual achievements is that there are very few that seem like they are going to take forever and be super tedious. E.g. you only need to restore the Roman Empire, you don't need to achieve it's exact previous borders. That is awesome.

I do think, if you guys want to add more achievements, you should add more that are somewhat difficult and about a general goal without needing to start as a specific character. Al-Andalus and Reconquista are good examples - you can come at those from all sorts of strategies and different starting positions. I don't dislike the specific start ones, but there are quite a few of them relative to the other central-to-a-playthrough achievements.

I also would love to see more that are centered outside Europe. I don't see any that are really Middle East-specific. I'd love some along the lines of "The Caliphate Strikes Back" from CK2, or maybe some achievements around Sunni vs. Shia (I know that's not really possible yet due to the head of faith thing, but this is about the future anyway). Maybe also one about winning a Great Holy War for a territory that was lost to an earlier Great Holy War?
 
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Mother of Us All seems to be the hardest/most tedious by far if only for the fact that you need to convert all of Africa and we don't really have an idea how hard county conversion is.

I'm also a little sketchy on the idea that the Iberian Muslims would have particularly cared about Tours, especially in this time period, but I don't know enough about it to say. It makes sense as a gameplay goal at the very least. (And is probably what an ascendant Ummayads will do every time anyway).


nogluten said:
Also, if you're able, could you give us an official answer on the Flanders and Brabant cultural (Dutch) situation?
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What's wrong with the way it is right now? How easy was it to draw the line between Franconian and Dutch identity in 867? In CK2, Frankish just melting pots into Dutch in de jure Frisia at some point.
Asiak said:
Waaay too many easy achievements.

I understand that there need to be some easy achievements, but where once that was 5-10 maybe 15, it seems to be the bulk of them are easy.

Common occurences such as getting married or having a stress break have no value as achievements.
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Meathim said:
On the whole I agree with this, that achievements are supposed to be hard. Just raking them in from normal gameplay is ... I dunno, feela unnecessary (You Reached Level 5! Here's a sparkly rainbow!). OTOH I mostly play offline meaning no iron man so I don't notice these things.

On the whole achievements can be really nice, but they need to be balanced and interesting.
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Achievements aren't only for the players. Achievements also serve a purpose for data collection. There have to be a number of easy achievements to collect data on what people are using what mechanics in iron man. Granted, this isn't true for Paradox, since you have to log in to play their games and they have more sophisticated data collection going on, but it's why a lot of game devs I'm aware of make absurdly easy achievements. See: Terraria's "Chop down a tree" "Craft a workbench". Still, I don't see what's wrong with "easy" achievements. It's not like making them takes a huge amount of time away from ones that could be more complex.
 
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Asiak said:
Waaay too many easy achievements.

I understand that there need to be some easy achievements, but where once that was 5-10 maybe 15, it seems to be the bulk of them are easy.

Common occurences such as getting married or having a stress break have no value as achievements.

How many cool challenges were sacrificed so that we could give new players this many easy achievements?
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Very few people in CK2 got even the easiest achievements anyway.
 
IndigoRage said:
What's wrong with the way it is right now? How easy was it to draw the line between Franconian and Dutch identity in 867? In CK2, Frankish just melting pots into Dutch in de jure Frisia at some point.
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Unless they've changed it, Flanders is French, Brabant is Franconian, and Frisia is Dutch. There have been whole threads on the topic, so I won't get into it again, but suffice to say Flanders and Brabant not being Dutch (or partialy Dutch as they were in CK2) is not very historically accurate in the least.
 
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Looks really good! Not sure I get the "Give a dog a Bone" one for Matilda of Tuscany?
 
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nogluten said:
Unless they've changed it, Flanders is French, Brabant is Franconian, and Frisia is Dutch. There have been whole threads on the topic, so I won't get into it again, but suffice to say Flanders and Brabant not being Dutch (or partialy Dutch as they were in CK2) is not very historically accurate in the least.
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Ah okay. I had forgotten about that. I thought we were talking about where to draw the line between Franconian and Dutch, I get you now.
 
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Rockphed said:
In the Iberia stream they kidnapped the king of France to torture and ransom. They tortured him and then didn't ransom him before he died, so meh.
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Oh, neat!
(...Just realized that I called the kidnapping and torturing of a king neat.)
Maybe I should watch those streams some time.


Miroku20X6 said:
I was responding to a post saying the Battle of Tours didn’t matter because it was “just a raid”. My point is that it’s easy to say it was “just a raid” because they lost.
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Which some idiot twisted around to mean the opposite of what you intended.
And since this got me dinged earlier, the idiot is me.
 
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Wokeg said:
Mother of Us All: starting as Magajiva Daura, reform an African pagan faith, and convert all counties in Africa to it.
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You know as someone that has tried several times in CK2 since HF came out to play Pagan, reform the religion into a Matriarchy, invading Christian/Muslim lands and take Rome and give it to my Female Pagan Pope, I may have to attempt this one.
 
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Nice achievements, but how exactly do we make our character naked?
 
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