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Projekt 919 said:
((I've seen your ideas/petitions get shot down before and am sorry for it. I also recognize the unfairness of it as you have (particularly in the pre-1860 past) been much better about following the rules than I. I have a feeling that the Feds can't last much longer, why not found your own party? At the moment I intended to test the waters with the petition, see if the substance for a new conservative party was there. Maybe you could do the same with the old Libretarian Lobby?))
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(( Even though I get along with the socialist players quite well, character-wise I'd rather not keep bouncing between socialist and reactionary characters and play a nice social liberal for a while. While it might be odd, in order to ensure his types have a place outside of the conservative party and my types have a place outside of a socialist party, maybe the most unlikely of all teams - Riccardo and myself - should team up to make a liberal party. I'd rather wait until we both have new characters though; I don't see Bridgeworthy and Jarvis being co-founders of a political party. ))
 
((That would be interesting... the "Champion of the Constitution," and virulent anti-statist former Republican Henry Jarvis joining with a more radical, interventionist Bridgeworthy! The party be'd dead in two years... if only because Henry Jarvis would probably kill over as a result of old age and exasperation...))
 
((I'm so intimidated... I've wanted to join this RP for a long time, but it's... intimidating.)
 
Sakura_F said:
((I'm so intimidated... I've wanted to join this RP for a long time, but it's... intimidating.)
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Its not once you get into it, but I can undertand what you mean since there are 324 pages of AAR
 
So, Rogov, am I to assume that Mr. Firefly is going to be the starter of an American Liberal Party?

Because since the low number of votes last election seems to have been a one-off, I was about to instate a new three-party system.

On the Right: The States' Conservative Party (which I might rename a bit).
On the Left: The Democratic Party (they'll be going off on the socialism tangent after 1885 as a reaction to the SCP)
In the Middle: The Federal Party (Although leaning slightly more to the Right).

Story-wise, it seems unlikely the Federals would collapse after winning two consecutive presidentials. Thread-wise, they may be my baby and the party I was hoping to run Harrison in, but I'm willing to sacrifice them for the good of the thread.
 
(That party system cant be right, there is not Republican Party ;-))
 
BigBadBob said:
So, Rogov, am I to assume that Mr. Firefly is going to be the starter of an American Liberal Party?

Because since the low number of votes last election seems to have been a one-off, I was about to instate a new three-party system.

On the Right: The States' Conservative Party (which I might rename a bit).
On the Left: The Democratic Party (they'll be going off on the socialism tangent after 1885 as a reaction to the SCP)
In the Middle: The Federal Party (Although leaning slightly more to the Right).

Story-wise, it seems unlikely the Federals would collapse after winning two consecutive presidentials. Thread-wise, they may be my baby and the party I was hoping to run Harrison in, but I'm willing to sacrifice them for the good of the thread.
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Nah, keep your Federales, I'll delete my post, remove my character, and go cry in the corner. Just be warned, Riccardo will do everything in his power to get you to bring back the Republicans; and if that does happen after I was forced to give up my dream, I won't be super happy.
 
Rogov said:
Nah, keep your Federales, I'll delete my post, remove my character, and go cry in the corner. Just be warned, Riccardo will do everything in his power to get you to bring back the Republicans; and if that does happen after I was forced to give up my dream, I won't be super happy.
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The Republicans are not coming back for the foreseeable future. The SCP is here to replace them.

As for deleting your post and crying in the corner: Please don't. :( The new three-party system was only a preliminary idea, so Mr. Firefly still has a pretty strong chance of getting that party of his by the 1893 Presidential Election (at the latest).

There's going to be a big shakeup in the political landscape after 1885, so I'm still open to ideas and new parties. The Federal landslide is going to set off some serious shockwaves. When TTL's historians look at this, they're going to place 1885-1889 as defining the transition from post-Civil War to pre-WWI America.
 
Don't worry about it BBB, you deserve your chance to play your character in the way you wanted and everything; you've done so much with this game.

And I've been president more than most players, that's why I wanted to actually be the person that influences parties and philosophy for once, like Red or Projekt, instead of the person just running in the rate-race; that's why I made a philosopher character that probably wasn't ever going to run for president (well part of it is I don't really want there to be a liberal party without me and it only be classical liberals, with social liberalism depicted only in conjunction with socialists and not with liberals).
 
BigBadBob said:
The Republicans are not coming back for the foreseeable future. The SCP is here to replace them.

As for deleting your post and crying in the corner: Please don't. :( The new three-party system was only a preliminary idea, so Mr. Firefly still has a pretty strong chance of getting that party of his by the 1893 Presidential Election (at the latest).

There's going to be a big shakeup in the political landscape after 1885, so I'm still open to ideas and new parties. The Federal landslide is going to set off some serious shockwaves. When TTL's historians look at this, they're going to place 1885-1889 as defining the transition from post-Civil War to pre-WWI America.
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((Why not make that a promise to Rogov? Give him his Liberales in 1893. Despite having been president twice the man almost never gets what he wants))
 
Projekt 919 said:
((Why not make that a promise to Rogov? Give him his Liberales in 1893. Despite having been president twice the man almost never gets what he wants))
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Hmmm...

Indeed. Sounds like a good plan.

So: I will somehow bring in a Liberal Party for 1893, even if it means a four-way race.
 
For the first time in my life, I am ashamed of my country. After witnessing the destruction of equality and Justice, as well as the shambles of our government, I herby condemn the biased trials, Abstain in the election and sign the great Conservative petition.

The Conservative cause has my personally and financial backing. I would also like New England Autonomy to become one of the conservative views.

Alfred Howard
CEO of Howard Industries & Repersentative of Boston

OOC: Sorry for my absence, I'll be more active now.
 
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Spitfire5793 said:
For the first time in my life, I am ashamed of my country. After witnessing the destination of equality and shambles of our government, I herby condemn the biased trials, Abstain in the election and sign the great Conservative petition.

The Conservative cause has my personally and financial backing. I would also like New England Autonomy to become one of the conservative views.

Alfred Howard
CEO of Howard Industries & Repersentative of Boston

OOC: Sorry for my absence, I'll be more active now.
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((You have to Bold when you sign))
 
Projekt 919 said:
((Why not make that a promise to Rogov? Give him his Liberales in 1893. Despite having been president twice the man almost never gets what he wants))
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(( Whereas while you often get what you want, you've never been president. But with the broader base of the State's Conservatives than the Southern Nationalists had, you have a good chance this time; which should be fun for the thread as a whole. ))
 
I find myself in an uncomfortable situation, I must admit. Most of those signing this new pact are in favor of considerable regional autonomy, which I cannot support. I fear the possibility of movements for autonomy turning into movements for independence.

If Mr. Davis were to clarify exactly what his position might be on more concrete matters, I would feel more comfortable supporting this new party.
 
I am as well, Mr. Garret. I want states' rights, not near total autonomy. As well, what does this party feel on matters economic? I can tolerate social conservatism to a degree (though I would certainly prefer a liberal system), but I cannot stand government control or regulation on the economy... If this Conservative Party does not endorse such views, I would support the creation of a Liberal Party to replace my former party.

- Former Vice-President Henry J. Jarvis
 
Avindian said:
I find myself in an uncomfortable situation, I must admit. Most of those signing this new pact are in favor of considerable regional autonomy, which I cannot support. I fear the possibility of movements for autonomy turning into movements for independence.

If Mr. Davis were to clarify exactly what his position might be on more concrete matters, I would feel more comfortable supporting this new party.
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Riccardo93 said:
I am as well, Mr. Garret. I want states' rights, not near total autonomy. As well, what does this party feel on matters economic? I can tolerate social conservatism to a degree (though I would certainly prefer a liberal system), but I cannot stand government control or regulation on the economy... If this Conservative Party does not endorse such views, I would support the creation of a Liberal Party to replace my former party.

- Former Vice-President Henry J. Jarvis
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((To Avindan: We'll have a open primary, I don't want this party to be the centralized political "Machine" that the SNP was. I'll run, but so can you. The party, at least at first will not have a more specific platform than decentralized gov))

((To Riccardo93: American Economic conservatism, as I understand it, is in favor of little to no government control in the economy))
 
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