The Eagle and The Lion - A History of the German Empire in the Revolutionary Wars

[Archangel85]

Kingmissisipi & Faelin: Regarding USA, not having been in the Great War probably would have slowed down her economic growth somewhat, at least when it comes to heavy industry (no fat Army contracts nor investments in Armament industry, no mass sales of equipment to Britain) so was thinking of slightly reducing her IC,perhaps to

USA, base IC 225 (down 10% from 250)

Does this sound reasonable and/or realistic to you?

hm, maybe with a big peacetime modifier? Since they weren't in the great war, they should be highly isolistic. After all, without their involvement and support in WWI, they would hardly have become the superpower they became..

 

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Karl Martell:After victory, the II Reich gradually allowed its citizens a little more freedom and influence. It still qualifies as Paternal Autocrat, but there is a legal Social Democrat Party with seats in the Reichstag. Personal Freedom is pretty high too.

I guess they still rule after the Lückentheorie - the reichstag can either agree or be ignored. One thing is for sure, Wilhelm II won't let some ragtag democratic parties ruin His fun...

 

[Archangel85]

hm, the only thing I don't like is the fact that both peace treaties were signed at their historical places...granted, germany proclaimed its foundation in Versailles too (1871), but still...

 

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maybe they get the kind of semi-freedom that say, scottland enjoys?

 

[Archangel85]

Fair enough. I suppose the Romanian oil fields aren't worth teh bones of one Prussian grenadier.

They have the oil fields of the oman empire, so why bother?

 

[Archangel85]

National socialism.... hilarious!

Great update as well. I would imagine Europe acting as they did when Hitler rearmed himself: written complaint. They were too tired fo war to provoke him and take action, and I imagine the same would happen here (though Germany seems more inclined to go to war against France in this alternative history than France was to go to war with Germany in "real" history).

And just *now* the Kaiser had to turn peaceful...a pity. they will probably just build the Siegfried line, massive bunkers to be flanked out through Belgium...

 

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ah yes, a nice idea there, the french developing the concept of blitzkrieg...but I guess the world will get to know it as 'le guerre du....errrrr...lightning'?

We shall see how germany handles. won't give it up just yet...when the faecal matter hits the rotor, the germans can adapt quite quickly...

 

[Archangel85]

I've just noted that Ireland doesn't exist on the map on the first page. This shows how observant I am.

Also, I'm interested to see if Nazism (The Nazism that we know, not Thorez et al.) forms here. Or at least, some variant of it. Of course, if it does, it's not going to be anywhere near as successful or popular as it was in OTL. Still, with the world downturn and Communism much more rampant than in reality, the radical right in Germany (Austria as well, come to that. Even more so than Germany, considering how dire Austria's position is.) is going to have plenty to feed itself.

I'd expect by 1936 plenty of Austrians are really pissed at the government, and their response to the 'red slavs', and things are getting fairly heated.

oh, I am fairly sure there would be some kind of national socialists in germany, but the presence of a strong authority (unlike the weimar time) would counter that pretty well...

 

[Archangel85]

von Lettow-Vorbeck leading bavarians?

Would that include the 16th bavarian reserve infantry regiment?

Yeah, but those guys never were the same since they lost Hauptmann Hitler. He slapped a jewish subordinate, said Leutnant challenged him for a pistol duell (really old school, you know), Hitler lost. A pity, really.

 

[Archangel85]

*peers at the map* The obvious thing to do would be to strike at the rebel province just east of Kutna Hora, the one sandwiched between Ostrava and Bratislava, and pinch off those six divisions knocking on the gates of Prague. Of course, that may not necessarily be the BEST thing to do...

An obvious choice, and so one has to believe that the enemy plotted for it. A failed assault might rip up the whole front...

 

[Archangel85]

I don't own HoI2 (the WW2 theme never did it for me) but if you published your Mod I'd seriously consider buying the game, just to be able to play this kickass scenario.

I second the publishing part.

 

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Here is a selection of the custom flags for this scenario. I did the Hungarian one myself, and the French one is a Mettermrck design made by cthulhu. Unfortunately, doing the flags on the counters is a heck of a lot harder, especially without the proper software, but I did redo the Commie-Hungarian counter to an all red flag, which was easy enough.

I fully intend to make this a downloadable mod, but it might be a while, while a try to make it less... intrusive (it completely undoes vanilla HOI2 right now).

maybe you should ask the CORE guys are so how to put it as a moddir...

 

[Archangel85]

Sturmpanzerwagen, Yogi, Sturmpanzerwagen...silly non germans always overentusiastic with the äs and üs and ös...

otherwise, great chapter. But really, Loader and Gunner in personal union...stupid....lets hope the Sturmpanzerwagen III will fare a little better then this armored target...*shakes head in disbelief*

 

[Archangel85]

No it won't. Considering that Germany will be fighting both France, and a militarily polished USSR, almost certainly at the same time - and probably largely alone, at least to begin with - it's going to be anything but.

Oh, and Germany is presumably not re-arming for a major war here to the extent it was IRL. That honour probably falls on the USSR.

Very likely that the British will field a glourious BEF to fight the red meance...like...say...three undergunned divisions?

 

[Archangel85]

I guess teh British will have a somewhat friendly neutral stance to germany - after all, they are fighting the commies. I guess that a Reuben James-like incident where a french or russian submarine sinks a british destroyer guarding german ships (as agreed in the fleet treaty) might trigger their entry into the war. Remember that they didn't really participate in WWI and will be more likely to engage in war since they lack the trauma of trench warfare (reading about it and living through it are two different things, still). We might even see a british volunteer unit in germany...

 

[Archangel85]

2.: Why send our boys to die for some incompetent dynasty whose Empire is beyond saving anyway?

you don't understand german psyche...for this kind of worries they have the kaiser, don't they? AH has been a brother in arms during WWI, they won't be abandoned in the time of their geratest need...

AH is important to secure germanys souther flank and therefore HAS to stay strong enough to at least hold the line.

 

[Archangel85]

Very nice update. I'm sure that Guderian would make a fine officer if he only saw the error in his ways....no flank protection, what is he thinking?


oh, and just dig up old Bismarcks Lückentheorie...the Reichstag can either agree or be overruled, works like a charm...

 

[Archangel85]

BTW, I would need some language help. It there are hungarians, czechs, slovaks, croats, serbs, poles, ukrainians and/or russians (or people proefficent in those languages) on this board that would be OK with doing some occasional translation for me (just short phrases like "Long Live the Revolution!"), then please drop me a PM.

Its wurst, yogi, unless you mean a sausage, then it would be Würstchen


Tune in again next week, when its again time for "Archangel nit picks on other peoples german"...

 

[Archangel85]

well, Air-ground coordination was part of the Blitzkrieg doctrine, but not the heart - no company commander could pick up the phone and get direct contact to the JU 87s, they had their own dispatchers travelling with the advancing army. Blitzkrieg is all about maneuver, speed, and suprise. You can defeat much larger armies if you are superior at a decisive point, and then don't stop for nothing. Air support aids, it plays the role of artillery that naturally (being mostly horse drawn) lags behind.

 

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ah, just look at him, sleeping amidst chaos. A true soldier. Congrats!