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The Yogi said:
Intosh: That does sound like a plausible scenario. However, had the AH Empire done as you suggest, they might well have avoided the Revolution altogether. And we can't have that, can we?
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First felicitations for your last update.

I don't think that my scenario avoid the Revolution.

You have plenty of nationalities still suffering under somebody else boots :

Serbs, Rumanians and Slovaks under Hungarian rule,
Italians, Serbs and Bosnians under Croatian rule.
And why not, the Germans from the Sudentenland hating be a part of the Kingdom of Bohemia and preferring an annexation by Germany...

Another idea : for the spread of the Revolution.

A revolution in the Ottoman Empire by some communists movements. The Sultan and the corrupt power of Constantinople don't react in time and the revolution gain majors footholds in Palestine, in Irak, in eastern Anatolia... A bloody counter-revolution can begin, where the Young Turks begin a new campaign of slaugher against the non-Turks elements of population (Armenians, Christians Arabs, Jews...) and even the most radicals arabs : the very-muslims saoudian tribes, they see them as the main supporters of the communists movements and they fight for their idea of turkization of all...

The news of the new genocide in the Ottoman Empire scandalized in Europe and without the german help, the Ottoman power can fall apart. And then, Germany, the UK, the USA begin to try somebody to support in the falling empire, and established some friendly governments....

Turkey finish as a fascist state, some communist underground and some minors puppets states supported by Germany, by the UK or the USA...

Germany can help for example to create a big Levantine state in Lebanon and Palestine... An instable melting pot of christians arabs, jews, druzes, chiites and moderate sunni arabs...
 
A wonderful update :D, org is building again ;) Richard Sharpe is the main character in a series of Bernard Cornwell books (called Sharpe's ...) He wore a fairly misfit uniform for an officer, with french cavalry boots, a frech pack, a cavalry officer's sabre and fought with a rifle depite being a Major (rose up from the ranks) Good books :)
 
Hurrah for Kaiser Otto! Hurrah for Kaiser Wilhelm! Onwards to Belgrade!
 
von Lettow-Vorbeck leading bavarians?

Would that include the 16th bavarian reserve infantry regiment? ;)
 
Zuckergußgebäck said:
von Lettow-Vorbeck leading bavarians?

Would that include the 16th bavarian reserve infantry regiment? ;)
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Yeah, but those guys never were the same since they lost Hauptmann Hitler. He slapped a jewish subordinate, said Leutnant challenged him for a pistol duell (really old school, you know), Hitler lost. A pity, really.
 
Great update once more Yogi, very in depth. And I like the fact that the first major fight will take place around Prague. I wonder what will happen.
 
wow! i found some newspaper headlines form the major British papers...
The Times: Pure brilliance! A wonderful retelling of a history that never was..
Daily Telegraph: An Excellent story, brought to life through excellent writing!
Daily Mail: Masterful
The Sun: its ok..but our readers wanna see page 3....(you have to be British to get that joke... ;) )

But from the Kaiser Franz news.....I love your AAR's.....shall we get the motion picture script ready?...John Williams can do the music, Steven Speilberg and Peter Jackson can direct parts 1 and 2...but who will play all the characters? Makhno, Kaiser Wilhelm, Otto I, Bela Kun..etc etc
 
You bet the old Wily One can take them!

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Red October! Watch as the People's Armies liberate Europe from imperialist oppressors!


I'm curious to see what the Czechs, particularly Benes and Masaryk (if they're in positions of authority, let alone living) think of everything. Will a Czech Legion arise in '35 to toss out the Austrians? Will they suffer as 'reactionaries' at the hands of the communists or join one by one the red armies? All this and more, next time with Yogi...
 
Atruejedi said:
When will we see pictures of the in-game map, Yogi? :)
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There you go; the situation on January 1st, 1936! Each one of the rebel countries is represented by an ingame country, although they share a common map colour.
 
The Yogi said:

...an experimental unit that Kaiser Otto I had been convinced to allow one of the German advisers, one Staff Colonel Heinz Guderian, to re-organize around the core of the Imperial Guards Cavalry and two of Austria’s three remaining brigades of Sturmpanzer II tracks…
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How very interesting, could we see an early blitzkrieg experiment? I know the sturmpanzers are slow, but perhaps with air support... How is the situation in the air anyway? Surely the rebels don't have aircraft?
 
mmm... Guderian... tracks... I sense an encirclment.
 
Go Yogi! Go Guderian! *_*

Will Austria-Hungary get Guderian as a tech team, perchance?

*peers at the map* The obvious thing to do would be to strike at the rebel province just east of Kutna Hora, the one sandwiched between Ostrava and Bratislava, and pinch off those six divisions knocking on the gates of Prague. Of course, that may not necessarily be the BEST thing to do...
 
The Yogi said:
There you go; the situation on January 1st, 1936! Each one of the rebel countries is represented by an ingame country, although they share a common map colour.
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It can be funny to see the armies of the "Kingdom" of Poland (don't remember if is still a Kingdom with a Regency Council) and the Hetmanate of Ukraine enter the imperial provinces where Poles and Ukrainians lived to protect their fellow citizens from the danger of the revolution.

Of course they will crushed the small communist group who tried to wake up the polish and ukrainian people in favor of the revolution, but they will firmly established their rule over these provinces.

The timeline of the evenements could be the following, the Poles intervention is the first one, and the Ukrainians fearing that the Poles invaded territories with ukrainian majority in the eastern part of Galicia also invaded Galicia. Of course, they fully cooperated with the austrian local administration but the germans or the hungarians publics servants who show too much hostilies toward their "savior army" could be sent (expelled) to imperial controlled territories...

Of course, these provocked a major crisis in polish governement and a more minor one in the ukrainian government who feared less the german anger. Kiev is far from Berlin, Warsaw closer.

In the german government, the polish and ukrainian intervention find some support surprisingly in the most pan-german circles, who want the old Austro-Hungarian empire to collapsed and annexed the german part of the Empire realising the famous Anscluss.

Another idea for your alternate history is the story of some very bad guys.

One of the most supporting party of the Anscluss is a small party of an fellow austrian veteran fighting in the german army. A far-right party whose members fought against communists and far-left group in the popular suburbs of the main german towns. In this alternate history, Hitler is the leader of a pan-germanist party (with ties with the italian fascists) with popular roots who dislike the still aristocratic rule of the Prussians Junkers and of course the capitalism dominated by jewish banks and industries. They also dislike the immigration of poles, ukrainian and others people from the eastern protectorates in Germany. "They came and stole german bread." is one of their slogan.

Leftist views toward economics and socials topics and far-right view with the pan-german ambition and the racists and antisemitics hate slogan. Some hardcore idiots and racists.

They began to be known with the economical crisis and represent some 5-7% of the germans electorates. More of course, if they succeed to gain the attention of the leftist electorate when the Communist party will be forbidden in Germany.
 
Mind Elemental said:
*peers at the map* The obvious thing to do would be to strike at the rebel province just east of Kutna Hora, the one sandwiched between Ostrava and Bratislava, and pinch off those six divisions knocking on the gates of Prague. Of course, that may not necessarily be the BEST thing to do...
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An obvious choice, and so one has to believe that the enemy plotted for it. A failed assault might rip up the whole front...
 
On paper, the Austrians look to be up shit creek.

The good thing is that all of the rebels are not (Presumably) operating under a single command, as the Austrians are. Plus, the Austrians will be better trained and equiped.

Still, wouldn't like to be the defenders in Southern Hungary - 2 Austrian divisions surrounded by 18 rebel divisions on three sides. Ouch.


P.S, I'd be interested in why Meissner got to be Chancellor. Presumably he's a placeman for the Kaiser.
 
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