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((I chuckled. Here's a quote I would like somebody to use in response to that, since it would be out of character for Gogołów: "This just proves how fragile your mental state is". Props to anyone who figures out where it comes from.))
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I am not being elected based solely the fact that I am a left wing canidate I am being elected because I, unlike the rest of you earned my positon. I thought in Argentina and in the bloody Nacionale rebellion, I fought with bravery and distinction with my fellow soldiers and they are tired of men like you who would send them off to fight on the front without going through a percentage of their suffering. People are tired of the Brass, they want a new face for the Chilean military not a hawk but a man who will fight for peace.
Perhaps you are right senor, perhaps I am not the canidate for the army. I am the canidate for the soldier the man who does his duty thanklessly and without complaint. The boy who leaves his family to fight for his nation and liberty, the man on the front line braving the dangers that most of these politicians could hardly dream of. I will fight to make sure that the men in the army are compensated just as much! as their officer, I will make sure that we will stop reactionary coups by creating a balanced set of generals, these are the qualities of a socialista, a friend of the worker a friend of the every day man and therefore that is what I call myself.
((Alright.....but I'm winning, so I think I will continue with what I am doing now appealing to my fellow socialistas))
I myself fought in the coup in 1876. I fought against the very army my father was a part of, an army in which he perished alongside during those bloody days. Senor, I do not believe you have the right to talk of suffering and challenging my own credibility in holding the position I do. I suffered during the coup, as did all of my comrades in the field. And your "fighting for peace" is too much of a contradictory phrase itself, Senor. I earned my position through command and through love of country over the love of my father, who wished to topple the very government I am serving and protecting. Not many others can say the same.
Do you deny the fact that your father holding a position in the army influenced your rise in the military.
Only war-mongers think fighting for peace is contradictory, you use every single other plausible option, exaust every avenue of possibilities before going to war, something the brass and our glorious presidente ignored with this Argentinian Debacle.
It may have been a factor, yes. But the loss of my brother during the fall of Cesar and his Empire inspired me as well; I felt that an Empire like that should never see the light of day. All of us - farmer, businessman, soldier and factory-worker - need to work together to keep our Republic together.
And the contradiction in your sentence, Senor, is that peace is essentially a lack of fighting, a lack of war. So, initiating war is breaking the peace. The military does not fight to "keep the peace", they fight to defend the Republic and it's people from foreign invasions, outside aggression, and for it's own interests, whether including a friendly foreign nation or not.
I am sorry for your loss, but yet you do admit that if it weren't for your father's influence in the military you would probably not have risen as far as you did? At least not as fast?
I'm not suprised one so accustom to jingoism would think as such, in order to maintain peace we must show other nations our strength, we must be strong and always vigilent and demonstrate that if the need arises we can defend ourselves and crush our foes. By maintaing a strong military yet opposing war we can fight for peace.
Thank you for your condolences. However, I believe that I would have risen at the same rate either way; the events that unfolded before me only reassured my decisions, which at the time I had only been on the fence about.
When it comes to Jingoism, I believe the military is the key part of Chile, disregarding her chief democratic values. When it comes to foreign policy, we should not be so aggressive; however, if it does come to a point where we are threatened by another country, our military will be more than enough to bring us nothing short of victory.
If that is the way you feel I cannot argue with you, I just fear a sense of nepotism seeping into our social, political, and military society's as more and more of the titans of old pass on and are replaced with their own sons, it troubles me greatly and is something I wish to keep a close eye on especially in the military.
But is it not the greatest when no men must die to keep the face? I believe in peace through strength the more powerful we are the less likely another nation will challenge us, or they will be more likely to agree with us if we need something, and thus we can avoid wars. War is a last resort to me and should almost always be in self-defence or the betterment of the people in the opposing country.
It is a travesty, a complete travesty, that there are no people who espouse Chilean illustrious freedoms in this election. How could it come to this? How could we sell our souls to so called Socialists, who yell of equality and whisper of deceit.
All I can hope for, all Chile can hope for, is that the FNT will respect their under partner in this coalition. I cannot vote now, as of right now any vote I choose will be but another betrayal to the free people of Chile... We have failed the people of this great land, and I cannot vote for knowledge of this... (Until I suck it up and vote for the lesser of the evils of course...)
Alas, I might say we should cry for Chile, but she deserves better. I do not cry for thee Chile, nor should Chile cry for us. The Liberales must reinvigorate the free spirits of the Chilean people, so that in five years, Chile can meet once again to vote, but this time for glorious illustrious freedom.
Chile para los chilenos, always.
All I can hope for, all Chile can hope for, is that the FNT will respect their under partner in this coalition. I cannot vote now, as of right now any vote I choose will be but another betrayal to the free people of Chile... We have failed the people of this great land, and I cannot vote for knowledge of this... (Until I suck it up and vote for the lesser of the evils of course...)
Alas, I might say we should cry for Chile, but she deserves better. I do not cry for thee Chile, nor should Chile cry for us. The Liberales must reinvigorate the free spirits of the Chilean people, so that in five years, Chile can meet once again to vote, but this time for glorious illustrious freedom.
Chile para los chilenos, always.
((I feel like I am going against my interests here but you could always vote republicano?))
(Hey, I was trying to have a deep moment with Chile. Come on man! Republicano's can wait for me to soak in the moment)
President: Pedro Rivera
If the communistas should win this election and try to take my land, I can assure you one thing. I will fight for the democracy my father fought for, and that I fought for. Because there are two kinds of fools in this world. One is the rich aristocrat who thinks that by hoarding money he will accumulate power. The other is much like Renin. A reformer who thinks that by taking money from one class and giving it to another, all the world's ills will be solved. Greed has always been the enemy of good men. Communism is the greed of the lower class.
-General De Vasces
If the communistas should win this election and try to take my land, I can assure you one thing. I will fight for the democracy my father fought for, and that I fought for. Because there are two kinds of fools in this world. One is the rich aristocrat who thinks that by hoarding money he will accumulate power. The other is much like Renin. A reformer who thinks that by taking money from one class and giving it to another, all the world's ills will be solved. Greed has always been the enemy of good men. Communism is the greed of the lower class.
-General De Vasces
Yes sharing ones wealth with those less fortunate is clearly the enemy of good men in chile, this the kind of baseless ignorance I wish to see stricken from the army.
Could you tell me exactly how I said that I wouldn't share my wealth with the lower class? I said that any aristocrat that simply hordes money is a fool, and a far greater villain then a foolish reformer. My father pushed for everyone to get education, did you know that? I've pushed for safety reforms, and have always paid the workers on my family land good wages. Money is worthless, unless you use it to do good.
President: Gogolow
Chief of staff: Alvarez
Finally, our left wing liberal-socialist coalition is here. I am so glad we are moving towards modernity and innovation, expanding our boundaries and reforming our society.
Chief of staff: Alvarez
Finally, our left wing liberal-socialist coalition is here. I am so glad we are moving towards modernity and innovation, expanding our boundaries and reforming our society.
((We had this problem in in The Presidents too. If you're going to be a wealthy land-owner who's business is perfect and peaceful and who's workers love him, then I can be the most magnificent union organizer on earth and turn them all into militant communists in a week and have you off your property and obeying the dictates of a workers' council the week after. Your choice.))
"Sr. de Vasces, if your father fought for democracy, and via democratic means it was decided that the land would be better managed in a collective fashion, and you fought against that decision, doesn't it follow that you would be fighting against what your father fought for? Logic, señor, is a tricky thing."
- Ferran Martí
((Again, when did I say it was perfect? All I said was that I wasn't a greedy aristocratic pig. All I said was that I used my wealth to try and help people. I never said the workers on my land loved me or that everything is peachy. This is the second time that I've said I pay the workers on my estate well, and the second time someone has said I couldn't do that. I don't understand what the problem is with playing a moralistic landowner. Why do they all have to be greedy bastards?))
Yes, I'm sure my father would have fought for a government that takes peoples property away.
Yes, I'm sure my father would have fought for a government that takes peoples property away.
((Because most land lords didn't pay their peasants very well. At all. Ever.))
"Senor de Vasces, I assure you, I would do nothing without the will of the people. But, if the people of Chile demand a Marxist, a Marxist is what they'll get. My goal is not the taking of money from one class to another. It is the even distribution of money, the abolition of classes, then the abolition of money entirely. These goals will take time, but they are my goals."
-Comrade Armando Renin
"Senor de Vasces, I assure you, I would do nothing without the will of the people. But, if the people of Chile demand a Marxist, a Marxist is what they'll get. My goal is not the taking of money from one class to another. It is the even distribution of money, the abolition of classes, then the abolition of money entirely. These goals will take time, but they are my goals."
-Comrade Armando Renin
((There were some. I'm not saying my type of lord was a common one, but they existed.))
I'm sorry that you've become so obsessed with the thought that you can abolish class you've failed to see that as long as someone can order another to do something, which you as presedente will certainly be able to do, class will always exist. In fact, just being able to bring down the class system gives you huge power and influence. I have my doubts about how you will use such power.
I'm sorry that you've become so obsessed with the thought that you can abolish class you've failed to see that as long as someone can order another to do something, which you as presedente will certainly be able to do, class will always exist. In fact, just being able to bring down the class system gives you huge power and influence. I have my doubts about how you will use such power.